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Àðõèâû Ïîëüøè https://archiwa.gov.pl/en/
Ïîëüñêàÿ ñëóæáà ãåíåàëîãèè Èäèòå ïî ññûëêå >>>
Ñïðàâî÷íèêè è Àäðåñ-Êàëåíäàðè Êîðîëåâñòâà Ïîëüñêîãî https://book-olds.ru/BookLibra...skogo.html
Ìåòðè÷åñêèå êíèãè - http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/
Ýâàêóèðîâàííûå ïîëÿêè 1943-1946 â Íîâîñèáèðñêóþ, Êåìåðîâñêóþ îáëàñòè è â Àëòàéñêèé êðàé.
Àðõèâ Àëòàéñêîãî êðàÿ (ÃÀÀÊ) - http://www.archiv.ab.ru/files/inventory/%D0%A0921-1.pdf
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Ïðîñüáà ê ó÷àñòíèêàì, ðàáîòàþùèì â ðàçäåëå -
1. Íå êîïèðîâàòü ìíîãîñòóïåí÷àòûå äèàëîãè ïðè îòâåòå. Îñòàâëÿéòå òîëüêî òó ÷àñòü, íà êîòîðóþ îòâå÷àåòå.
2. Äëÿ áëàãîäàðíîñòè èñïîëüçóéòå òðè âàðèàíòà -
* Ðåéòèíã (+/-)
* Ëàéê
* Îòçûâ â Ïðîôèëå ó÷àñòíèêà çà ñîîáùåíèå
3. Íå ïèøèòå òåêñòû ñîîáùåíèé òîëüêî áîëüøèìè áóêâàìè.
4. Îáðàùàéòå âíèìàíèå íà íàçâàíèÿ òåì è ðàñøèôðîâêó ïîäòåì ïðè êðåïëåíèå ñâîåãî ïîñòà.
5. Ïðåæäå, ÷åì îòêðûòü íîâóþ òåìó, ïðîëèñòàéòå ðàçäåë. Íå íàäî äóáëèðîâàòü óæå îòêðûòûå òåìû.

Èùåì ïðåäêîâ è ïîòîìêîâ â Ïîëüøå

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Piotr
Íîâè÷îê

Wuppertal
Ñîîáùåíèé: 292
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2004 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 20
Carina,
prawda, ze bardzo mily?
:-)
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> Modestia et Virtute <
CARINA

Vilnius
Ñîîáùåíèé: 839
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2003 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 83
Piotr  

Czesc! Mi sie wydaje, ze jestem bardzo niedobra, ze sie nie odzywalam, zawsze nie moge napisac od razu...

Czym sie zajmujesz,  jak Ci leci? Mam nadzieje, ze u Ciebie wszystko jest w porzadku!

A sorry!

Wsunelam Cie do  klubu (Nr. 39):

http://vgd105.valuehost.ru/cgi...mp;start=0

Jak Ty na to patrzysz? :upset:


(Ñîîáùåíèå îòðåäàêòèðîâàë CARINA 5 îêò. 2004 15:29)

Piotr
Íîâè÷îê

Wuppertal
Ñîîáùåíèé: 292
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2004 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 20
Carina,
wcale sie nie zgadza, to co napisalas: przeciez jestes taka kochana :-))
U mnie wszystko OK! A czym sie zajmuje?
Zona, dzieckiem, ratowaniem swiata i szukaniem rodziny.
Jak widzisz, nic takiego ;-)
A co u Ciebie i "Czarownicy"?

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Piotr
Íîâè÷îê

Wuppertal
Ñîîáùåíèé: 292
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2004 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 20
CARINA,
bardzo Ci dziekuje za wpisanie mnie do Klubu :-)
Czuje sie bardzo zaszczycony i klaniam sie w pas w podziece
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> Modestia et Virtute <
CARINA

Vilnius
Ñîîáùåíèé: 839
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2003 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 83
Piotr

U mnie, hm, u mnie...
dom-droga-szkola-droga-praca-droga-budowa/grzyby-droga-letnisko (kuchnia)-droga-dom (kot, kuchnia, komputer, TV, lozko)... :o :o :o
(po rosyjsku to jest dobrze - durdom)

(Ñîîáùåíèå îòðåäàêòèðîâàë CARINA 5 îêò. 2004 16:10)

Piotr
Íîâè÷îê

Wuppertal
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Ðåéòèíã: 20
Carina,
no to chyba wiem, jak to jest, hahaha
Skad my to znamy... ;-)
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ars
Íîâè÷îê

Bielsk Podlaski Polsza
Ñîîáùåíèé: 14
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2004 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 3
CARINA
a eto torze czlen naszej semii, o jewo predkach k sozalenii niczewo nie izwiestno, mat iz derewni Parcewo wblizi Bielska Podlaszskowo, jewo zowut Murzik, tretij etowo imieni.
on kupalsa pered snimkoj dwie niedieli tomu nazad,
iz USC z Katowic pryszlo izwiesie czto niczewo nie izwiestno ,wproczem sejczas zdielaju skan i piereszlu

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ars
CARINA

Vilnius
Ñîîáùåíèé: 839
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2003 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 83
ars

Ìóðçèê õîðîøèé - êàê è âñå Ìóðçèêè... Ïîðîäà, ïîõîæå - íàñòîÿùèé ïàðöåâñêèé! À åñëè êóïàåòñÿ - íå ìóðçèê!

ars
Íîâè÷îê

Bielsk Podlaski Polsza
Ñîîáùåíèé: 14
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2004 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 3
CARINA
kupalsa potomu czto ozidali wnuczku, jej godik i czetyre miesiaca, ona s nim nie ceremonitsa daze zuby szczitajet


Íå î ñåáå òîëüêî êàæäûé çàáîòüñÿ, íî êàæäûé è î äðóãèõ.
Ïîñëàíèå ...............

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ars
greek

greek

Àôèíû , Ãðåöèÿ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 182
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2004 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 63
ars

Ñïàñèáî íî íå èìåþ íè÷åãî îáùåãî îñîáåííî ê âåðîèñïîâåäàíèþ. Ïîñìîòðèòå:
http://www.polishroots.org/herbarz/lubicz.htm
http://www.genealog.home.pl/g.pl?kd=4&hb=0031

à òàêæå ñëåäóþùåå:

It is not uncommon to find peasants or Jews bearing the same surnames borne
by noble families. Originally surnames were borne only by nobles, and those
referring to place names usually indicated the name of the family's estate.
Thus when the surname Nielawicki first developed, it would have been a short
way of saying "lord of Nielawice."

But as surnames spread throughout society, surnames derived from place names
gradually changed in meaning. What once meant "lord of Nielawice" came to
mean nothing more than "one from Nielawice." By the early 19th century, when
Jews were required to take surnames by law, it was simple and easy for them
to take obvious, sensible names. If a family came from Nielawice, chances
were they would decide to call themselves Nielawicki.

That is almost certainly the answer to your question. There is no reason to
assume any sort of connection between your Nielawicki family and that of
peasants or Jews named Nielawicki. In your family's case the name goes back
to the days when the family owned the estate at Nielawice. But as time went
on the name came to mean nothing more than "one from Nielawice," and the
name no longer indicated anything about the social status of those who bore
it. From the name alone there was no way to tell the descendants of noble
Nielawickis from the descendants of peasants and Jews who happened to have
been born in, or worked at, Nielawice.

Obviously the nobles who first bore these surnames were often very angry
when peasants and Jews began to bear them. But by then the society had
changed to the point that they could no longer do anything to stop it.

I hope this is some help to you, and wish you the best of luck with your
research.

William F. Hoffman
Author, _Polish Surnames: Origins & Meanings_

Íàäåþñü ÷òî âñ¸ ÿñíî...

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ÏÅÒÐ.

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