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Сообщения Gray2010 (22)Тема: Forum po polsku
1.02.2018, 21:44
Hi diza,
Thank you for the link, it was very informative.
John
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Тема: Forum po polsku
29.01.2018, 7:23
Hi Lysogor,
So that's what it looks like. That's great.
https://www.the-saleroom.com/e...55010eee2d
So the inscription on the model states:"For irreproachable service in police.” is that around Nicholas head or the inscription is on the back?
So the medal was for good behaviour, excellent service, flawless service?
By the way, where is Ludica?
Can you read English or would you like for me to translate my writings in Polish?
Thank you,
John
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Тема: Forum po polsku
26.01.2018, 2:03
Hello Lysogor,
Dziękują za informację. Tak (więc) Vasily w fotografii i Vasily od Pozycji (stanowisko) / Tytułują: Prywatny, Wojskowa Piechota 160-a Jednostki Abkhazian Pułk Gubernia: Minsk Prowincja. , Okręg: *Bobruisk uezd , Parish: Rudobelskaya vo. , Data (datować; pochodzić wydarzenia (wypadek): 04.08.1915, Umieszczać (miejsce) walki: Ludica* miasteczko - Polska (polski), Przeznaczenie: przepuszczenie (nieobecność są dwoma różnym ludzie (lud; ludowy)?
Vasily w obrazie jest policjantem, pomocnik do okręgowego policjanta od Warszawy Governorate a także lieutenant w armii? 12 klasa (klasowy) ustawiający w szeregu (ustawiający się w szeregu; ustawianie w szeregu) oznaczający Lieutenant? Tak (więc) on nigdy uczestniczył przy walce Ludica w Polska (polski) i nie od *Bobruisk uezd
Wow, tak (więc) JA jestem tylne do rozpoczęcia mojego badania, tak (więc) przygnębiający (obniżający; przygnębienie; obniżenie).
Jak byłby znajduję prawo (prawy; naprawo od) Vasily Adiniets*/Odinets? imię (nazwa) jego żony i innego dzieckcko (dziecinny)?
Mój ojciec co (żeby; który) Vasily i jego rodzina posiadał (posiadany) lądują (wysadzać; wyładowywać, zwierzęta i służący. Tak (więc) jeżeli on pracował w Warszawie Governorate, byłby JA jest zdolny wyjaśniać gdzie?
Dziękują,
John
Hello Lysogor,
Thank you for the information. So the Vasily in the photograph and the Vasily from Position / Title: Private , Military Unit 160th Infantry Abkhazian Regiment
Gubernia: Minsk Province. , County: Bobruisk uezd , Parish: Rudobelskaya vol. , Date of event: 04.08.1915 , Place of battle: Ludica village - Poland , Destiny: missing are two different people?
The Vasily in the picture is a police officer, an assistant to the district police officer from the Warsaw Governorate and also a lieutenant in the army? 12 class ranking meaning a Lieutenant? So he never participated at the battle of Ludica in Poland and not from Bobruisk uezd
Wow, so I'm back to the beginning of my research, so depressing.
How would I find the right Vasily Adiniets/Odinets? The name of his wife and other child?
My father said that Vasily and his family owned land, animals and servants.
So if he worked in the Warsaw Governorate, would I be able to find out where?
Thank you,
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Тема: Forum po polsku
25.01.2018, 5:08
Tu jest obrazem Vasily Adinietz Nakrycie
Dziękują,
John
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Тема: Forum po polsku
25.01.2018, 5:05
Żałujący, używam website:" http://poltran.com ", tłumaczyć Język angielski Język polski (polski; polerować; blask).
Hello,
Szukam niektórej informacji o moim wielkim wielkim ojcu, Vasily Adinietz.
On miał rodzina, żona i 2 dziecci, jed z & (oni) był moją babcią Anna Vasilievna Adinietz. Anna był urodzony na Lutym 5, 1913 i znikał (znikły) na Wrześniu 1, 1980. Ona była pogłębiana przy *Gornensky Convent, w Jerozolimie. Vasily Adinietz, był policjant i obmyślam on był stationned w Prowincji Warszawy. Gdzie exactely on był umieszczany, JA nie poznaje.
Tu było wydarzeniem (wypadek) na 04.08 /15 i miejsce walki była przy Ludica Miasteczko - Polska (polski) i on udawał się przepuszczenie (nieobecność /martwy. Może ktoś pomagają mnie rozumieją gdzie Ludica Miasteczko albo wszelka informacja o Vasily Adinietz i jego rodzina (rodzinny)? nazwisko mogłoby być Pisownią nazwiska mógłby jest Одинец, Одынец, Адынец I /albo Odyniec (Одынец ) w Języku polskim (blask)
Position / Title: Private
Military Unit 160th Infantry Abkhazian Regiment
Gubernia: Minsk Province.
County: Bobruisk uezd
Parish: Rudobelskaya vol.
Date of event: 04.08.1915
Place of battle: Ludica village - Poland
Destiny: missing
Dziękują,
John
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Тема: Списки "Землевладельцы Минской губернии. 1900-1917"
24.01.2018, 7:16
Жаль, я перевожу с Google
Добрый вечер,
Мой прадед Вазилай Адинитз (или Odinets) вступал в брак и имел 2 детей, один из них являющийся моей бабушкой Анной Вазиливной Адинитзом (Odinets), я не знаю имя жены или другого ребенка, но Анна родилась 5 февраля 1913 и скончалась 1 сентября 1980. Она была похоронена в Женском монастыре Gornensky в Иерусалиме.
Фотография снизу - вероятно приблизительно 1914-1915
Член форума помог в выяснении небольшого количества информации о Вазилай Адинитзе (Odinets):
Одинетс Вазилай Никитич
Положение / Название: Частный
Военное Подразделение 160-ый Полк абхазца Пехоты
Gubernia: Минская Область.
Графство: Бобруйск uezd
Округ: издание Rudobelskaya.
Дата случая: 04.08.1915
Место сражения: деревня Ludica - Польша
Судьба: без вести пропавшие
Сапозедлай Вазилай Адинитз (Odinets) и его семья или имевшаяся семьей земля его жены, животные и некоторые служащие. Я не уверен если это действительно так или нет.
Кто - то может помочь в выяснении, если это верно? Если они фактически имели землю? Также кажется, что Вазилай Адинитз (Odinets) был полицейским и служил в governorate Варшавы (согласно идентификации его верхнего предела).
Кто - то знает, где - Деревня Ludica - Польша? Округ: издание Rudobelskaya, действительно ли это - Ортодоксальная Церковь, и они имели бы отчеты брака или крещение?
Thank you,
John
Good Evening,
My great grand-father Vasily Adinietz (or Odinets) was married and had 2 children, one of them being my grand-mother Anna Vasilievna Adinietz (Odinets) I do not know the name of the wife or the other child but Anna was born on February 5, 1913 and passed away on September 1, 1980. She was buried at the Gornensky Convent in Jerusalem.
The picture at the bottom is probably around 1914-1915
A forum member helped in finding out some information about Vasily Adinietz (Odinets):
Odinets Vasily Nikitich
Position / Title: Private
Military Unit 160th Infantry Abkhazian Regiment
Gubernia: Minsk Province.
County: Bobruisk uezd
Parish: Rudobelskaya vol.
Date of event: 04.08.1915
Place of battle: Ludica village - Poland
Destiny: missing
Suposedly Vasily Adinietz (Odinets) and his family or his wife's family owned land, animals and some servants. I'm not sure if this is true or not.
Can someone help in finding out if it's true? If they actually owned land? Also it seems that Vasily Adinietz (Odinets) was a police officer and served in the governorate of Warsaw (as per the identification of his cap).
Does someone know where is Ludica Village - Poland is? The Parish: Rudobelskaya vol., is it a Orthodox Church and would they have baptism or marriage records?
Thank you kindly,
John
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Тема: Adinietz (Adiniets, Adinets or Adinetz)
23.01.2018, 23:25
Hi z_Grodna,
"Btw, by whom was the grave marker written? There's a word misspelt in it. "В Польши" should be "в Польше".
What languages did your grandmother speak?
I spoke with my father today and he said that the information on the grave marker was written by her companion, who was Polish. The parents of my father divorced and his mother Anna Vasilievna Adinietz lived with a Polish gentleman named Iakov Vikentievich Krents until she died in 1980. She was buried at the Gornensky Convent and the Polish gentleman is buried beside her. Before that, she lived and married a local man named Elias Ibrahim El-Hajjeh in Jerusalem, Palestine. They met became engaged and married in 1937. I have a picture of them together. She spoke little Arabic and Polish but she fully spoke Russian. My father remember's a conversation he had with his mother that her family owned land, animals and had servants. As to where, he doesn't know. Anna never wanted to discuss about the past with her children as it was too painful for her and my father didn't want to push it.
By the way, I don't think Iakov Vikentievich Krents is his real name. My father remembers Iakov's story that he was a prisoner of war in WWII and captured by the Russian Army in Poland. They sent him to the Brittish in Palestine and later he was ordered to go and fight in Italy. He hid in Palestine and changed his name (that's another story to research!).
My grand-mother never spoke about her family, her father Vasily Adinietz nor about her mother (name unknown) and sibling(name unknown, brother/sister?). She did have an aunt who became a nun at the Gornensky Convent in Jerusalem and I presume that she was buried there as well. From which side of the family the aunt was, I don't know.
A gentleman by the name of ygv (Yuri) from the forum provided some information on December 3, 2017 (my questions are underneath each information provided)
http://gwar.mil.ru/cartoteka/rgvia/106827/
There are
Odinets Vasily Nikitich
1. Position / Title: Private
Everyone is telling me that his uniform is a police officer Can he be conscripted to serve in the army as private as well during an emergency?
2. Military Unit 160th Infantry Abkhazian Regiment
Where was this unit? What city? Who commandered it?
Is this the 160th Infantry from :"http://usacac.army.mil/CAC2/CGSC/CARL/nafziger/914RXAA.pdf"
160th Infantry Division
637th Kagizman Infantry Regiment
638th Oltin Infantry Regiment
639th Artvin Infantry Regiment
640th Chorokhsk Infantry Regiment
or
http://www.marksrussianmilitaryhistory.info/RUSS1914.html
160th Abkhazia Infantry Regiment. [160-i Pekhotnyi Abkhazskii polk.]
40th Infantry Division. Gomel.
3. Gubernia: Minsk Province
Minsk Provice, is that where he was born, served, lived and/or killed?
4. County: Bobruisk uezd
Bobruisk uezd is Babruysk? Was he born in Belarus, married in Belarus, lived and had children there or died there?
5. Parish: Rudobelskaya vol.
Is that where he went to pray, baptized, lived, married, or children babptized? Or he was dead and brought his body to the parish? Does the Parish still exist? Is it in Belarus? Where in Belarus?
6. Date of event: 04.08.1915
Is that the date he was killed or when the event took place?
7. Place of battle: Ludica village - Poland
I have researched Ludica Village and I cannot find it anywhere. Is it Jastków, Lublin Voivodeship in Poland?
8. Destiny: missing
Meaning dead?
The more information I receive/find, the more confusing it gets.
Kind Regards,
John
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Тема: Adinietz (Adiniets, Adinets or Adinetz)
23.01.2018, 23:18
Hi z_Grodna,
"Btw, by whom was the grave marker written? There's a word misspelt in it. "В Польши" should be "в Польше".
What languages did your grandmother speak?
I spoke with my father today and he said that the information on the grave marker was written by her companion, who was Polish. The parents of my father divorced and his mother Anna Vasilievna Adinietzlived with a Polish gentleman named Iakov Vikentievich Krents until she died. She was buried at the Gornensky Convent and the Polish gentleman is buried beside her. She lived and married a local man named Elias Ibrahim El-Hajjeh in Jerusalem, Palestine. They met became engaged and married in 1937. I have a picture of them together. She spoke little Arabic and Polish but she fully spoke Russian. My father remember's a conversation he had with his mother that her family owned land, animals and had servants. As to where, he doesn't know. Anna never wanted to discuss about the past with her children and my father didn't want to push it.
By the way, I don't think Iakov Vikentievich Krents is his real name. My father remembers Iakov's story that he was a prisoner of war in WWII and captured by the Russian Army in Poland. They sent him to the Brittish in Palestine and later he was ordered to go and fight in Italy. He hid in Palestine and changed his name (that's another story to research!).
My grand-mother never spoke about her family, her father Vasily Adinietz nor about her mother (name unknown) and sibling(name unknown, brother/sister?). She did have an aunt who became a nun at the Gornensky Convent in Jerusalem and I presume that she was buried there as well. From which side of the family the aunt was, I don't know.
A gentleman by the name of ygv (Yuri) from the forum provided some information on December 3, 2017 (my questions are underneath each information provided)
http://gwar.mil.ru/cartoteka/rgvia/106827/
There are
Odinets Vasily Nikitich
1. Position / Title: Private
Everyone is telling me that his uniform is a police officer Can he be conscripted to serve in the army as private as well during an emergency?
2. Military Unit 160th Infantry Abkhazian Regiment
Where was this unit? What city? Who commandered it?
Is this the 160th Infantry from :"http://usacac.army.mil/CAC2/CGSC/CARL/nafziger/914RXAA.pdf"
160th Infantry Division
637th Kagizman Infantry Regiment
638th Oltin Infantry Regiment
639th Artvin Infantry Regiment
640th Chorokhsk Infantry Regiment
or
http://www.marksrussianmilitaryhistory.info/RUSS1914.html
160th Abkhazia Infantry Regiment. [160-i Pekhotnyi Abkhazskii polk.]
40th Infantry Division. Gomel.
3. Gubernia: Minsk Province
Minsk Provice, is that where he was born, served, lived and/or killed?
4. County: Bobruisk uezd
Bobruisk uezd is Babruysk? Was he born in Belarus, married in Belarus, lived and had children there or died there?
5. Parish: Rudobelskaya vol.
Is that where he went to pray, baptized, lived, married, or children babptized? Or he was dead and brought his body to the parish? Does the Parish still exist? Is it in Belarus? Where in Belarus?
6. Date of event: 04.08.1915
Is that the date he was killed or when the event took place?
7. Place of battle: Ludica village - Poland
I have researched Ludica Village and I cannot find it anywhere. Is it Jastków, Lublin Voivodeship in Poland?
8. Destiny: missing
Meaning dead?
The more information I receive/find, the more confusing it gets.
Kind Regards,
John
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Тема: Российская Императорская армия и флот - 2013 / 2019
22.01.2018, 16:20
Hi G-Is,
Oh, wow. I did not bother to look if it was even Polish, I need to learn a lot.
So he served in the Province of Warsaw. Do you think that the little white band will tell us exactly where he served? Did they serve all over Warsaw or somewhere specific in Warsaw?
Kind Regards,
John
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Тема: Российская Императорская армия и флот - 2013 / 2019
22.01.2018, 8:25
Hi VC,
Sorry to bother you again. I also have the medal attached to the uniform (it was zoomed in by a forum member named Marija). Would you know what type of medal this is?
Thank you kindly,
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Тема: Российская Императорская армия и флот - 2013 / 2019
22.01.2018, 6:36
Hi VC,
Thank you very much for the information. Is it possible, when you have the time, if you can translate what it states at the bottom of the picture of the badge?
Thank you,
John
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Тема: Российская Императорская армия и флот - 2013 / 2019
18.01.2018, 23:11
Hi Kargopolsky Dragoon, ygv and Eva,
Thank you for all of your help. I didn't have anything to start the reseach of my family, now I have some information that will help me solve the riddle.
Are you able to decipher the badge on Vasily Adinietz cap? A forum member, named Marija was able to expand the picture of his cap.
Thank you,
John
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Тема: Одинцовы
18.01.2018, 22:52
The grave marker of Vasily Adinietz daughter shows Poland. Exactely where? I dont know and my father doesnt know. Do you think he was a police officer? I thought he was a Hussar but someone told me thats not the case.
The photo was probably taken around 1914 or 1915 or so.
Thanks,
John
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Тема: СТРАНЫ БЛИЖНЕГО и ДАЛЬНЕГО ЗАРУБЕЖЬЯ
21.12.2017, 7:18
Vasily Adinietz and family. Little girl beside her mother is my grandmother, Anna Vasilievna Adinietz, born in Poland, on Feb. 5, 1912 or 1913 and passed away on September 1, 1980. Buried at the Gornensky Convent in Jerusalem.
Picture probably taken around 1914 or 1915.
No one in my family knows the name of the wife or the little girl beside her father, Vasily.
Photo restored by Marija
Василий Адиниец и семья. Маленькая девочка рядом с мамой-моя бабушка, Анна Васильевна Адиниец, родилась в Польше, 26 февраля. 5, 1912 или 1913 и умер 1 сентября 1980 года. Похоронен в Горненском монастыре в Иерусалиме.
Фотография, вероятно, сделана около 1914 или 1915.
Никто в моей семье не знает имени жены или девочки рядом с отцом Василием.
Фото восстановлено Марией
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Тема: Одинцовы
30.11.2017, 22:55
Do you know if the surname Adinietz or Adinets is from Odinets?
До ыоу кнош иф тче сурнаме Адиниетз ор Адинетс ис фром Одинетс?
Thanks,
John
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Тема: Genealogical research in Russia
30.11.2017, 22:20
Do you know how to use this? - http://rkna.ru/projects/metrics/view.php
I'm looking for some information on Vasily Adinietz and his family. he was married and had 2 children, Anna Vasilievna Adinietz and no one knows the names of his other child or his wife. Anna was born, somewhere in Poland on Feb. 5, 1912 or 1913 and passed away on Sept. 1, 1980.
There`s different variations of the surname Adinietz. It could be Adiniets, Adinetz, Adiniets:
анна василийевна адинец, одинетц, одинец,
Thanks,
John
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Тема: Adinietz (Adiniets, Adinets or Adinetz)
10.11.2017, 22:25
I have an old picture, it was probably taken around 1915, of my great-grandfather, Vasily Adinietz (spelling could be Adiniets, Adinets or Adinetz) and his family. The little girl standing on the chair, beside her mother is my grand-mother, Anna Vasilievna Adinietz and she was born on February 5, 1913, I believe in Poland and passed away on September 1, 1980. She was burried at the Gorny Russian Orthoddox Convent cemetary in Jerusalem. Anna had an aunt who was a nun at the Gorny Convent but no one knows her name. Also, no one seems to know the name of Anna's sister or her mother.
I'm trying to find out the history of my family, my grand-mother and her family. Where they came from, where Vasily was born, stationned, the type of medal he has pinned on his uniform, his rank and the origin of the name Adinietz?
I was very little when I saw her, I was probably 2 and then I saw her again when I was 5 years old and I used to call her Tata Anna. She was very secretive about her family or about the past and never told my father anything.
If anyone knows anything about Vasily Adinietz and his family please let me know. Or if you have any suggestions where I might find some information, please let me know as well.
Thanks, John
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