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Êîâàëåâ Ñåìåí Ïðîêîïîâè÷
Ðîäèëñÿ â 1872 ã., ä. Øàáëè Êîñòþêîâè÷ñêîãî ð-íà Ìîãèëåâñêîé îáë.; áåëîðóñ; îáðàçîâàíèå íà÷àëüíîå; çåìëåäåëåö. Ïðîæèâàë: Ìîãèëåâñêàÿ îáë., Êîñòþêîâè÷ñêèé ð-í, ä. Øàáëè. Àðåñòîâàí 27 äåêàáðÿ 1937 ã. Ïðèãîâîðåí: "òðîéêà" 31 äåêàáðÿ 1937 ã., îáâ.: 72, 76 - Çàùèòà âðàãîâ íàðîäà, à/ñ àãèòàöèÿ, àíòèêîëõîçíàÿ äåÿòåëüíîñòü. Ïðèãîâîð: 10 ëåò ÈÒË Ðåàáèëèòèðîâàí 18 ìàÿ 1959 ã. Îïðåä.ñóä.êîë.ïî óã.äåëàì Âåðõ.ñóäà ÁÑÑÐ
 íàñòîÿùåå âðåìÿ æèâ åãî âíóê - åñòü øàíñ ïîñìîòðåòü äåëî?
Åñëè äàòà ðîæäåíèÿ â äåëå ïðàâèëüíàÿ (1872), òî ïðàäåä äîëæåí áûë ðîäèòüñÿ ãîäó â 1852, ò.å. ôèãóðèðîâàòü â 10-é ðåâèçèè! --- Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
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30 ìàÿ 2012 19:18 Êàêîé-òî ìîé Ïðîêîï Êîâàëåâ íåóëîâèìûé Åñëè åãî ñûí Ñåìåí áûë ïåðâåíöåì, òî îí äîëæåí áûë ðîäèòüñÿ îê. 1850 ã.  10-é ðåâèçèè ñðåäè äåòåé åñòü 2 Ïðîêîôèÿ: îäèí ñûí Èâàíà Àâðàìîâà 15 ëåò, à äðóãîé - Åãîðà Òèìîôååâà 13 ëåò. Ó Åãîðà Òèìîôååâà ýòî ïåðâåíåö, ÷òî ïðîòèâîðå÷èò ñåìåéíîé èíôîðìàöèè î ìëàäøåì (èëè îäíîì èç ìëàäøèõ) ñûíîâåé.  ÌÊ 1886 ã. óïîìèíàåòñÿ â âîñïðèåìíèêàõ æåíà Ïðîêîôèÿ Ãðèãîðüåâà Àêèëèíà Èâàíîâà. Íî â ÐÑ íåò íè îäíîãî ïîäõîäÿùåãî Ãðèãîðèÿ!  îáùåì, ñïëîøíûå çàãàäêè --- Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
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31 ìàÿ 2012 15:32 ÐÑ10 âûçûâàåò ó ìåíÿ ïðîñòî îò÷àÿíèå! Òàì íåò íèêîãî, êòî ìîã áû ïðåòåíäîâàòü íà ðîëü ìîåãî 2ïðàäåäà ñ åãî 14 äåòüìè (îäèí èç íèõ äîëæåí áûòü Ïðîêîôèé (íà õóäîé êîíåö Ïðîêîï)!  Øàáëÿõ æèëè åùå Ñàâèöêèå. Ïðåäîê ìîåãî òðîþðîäíîãî áðàòà Âàñèëèé Íèêèòè÷ ïî ïðîçâèùó Ïóä óìåð îê. 1947 ã. ÷óòü íå â 100 ëåò. Äàæå åñëè ýòî áûëî ïðåóâåëè÷åíèå è îí óìåð â 90 èëè 88 ëåò, âñå ðàâíî îí äîëæåí áûòü â ÐÑ10 - íó èëè õîòÿ áû åãî îòåö Íèêèòà!  ÌÊ 1880-õ - 1900-õ ãã. ìíîãî Íèêèòè÷åé, à òóò ÿ íå íàõîæó íèêàêîãî ïîäõîäÿùåãî Íèêèòû! ×òî áû ýòî çíà÷èëî? Åäèíñòâåííàÿ èäåÿ ïîêà - ìèðñêîé ïðèãîâîð â 1863 ã. ïîäïèñàëè äîìîõîçÿåâà ä. Øàáåëü è Ìåäâåäîâêè. Ìîæåò, ìîé ïðåäîê-êóçíåö è Ñàâèöêèå æèëè â ä. Ìåäâåäîâêå? - ×òî ýòî çà äåðåâíÿ? Ãäå? Ñóùåñòâóåò, èñ÷åçëà? Íèêîãäà íè÷åãî ïîäîáíîãî îò ðîäíè ÿ íå ñëûøàëà... Ñ äðóãîé ñòîðîíû, êóçíåö âïîëíå ìîã æèòü íà îòøèáå... Î÷åðåäíîé äåòåêòèâ --- Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
Êëûøêèí Âëàñåíêî Ñàêóíîâ Êó÷åðÿâåíêî (Ãëóõîâ)
Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.) | | |
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30 îêòÿáðÿ 2012 11:19ïîèñê ïðåäêîâ è ðîäñòâåííèêîâ Êîâàë¸â Àáðàì Ôàääååâè÷ 1898ã.ð. ×åðíèãâñêàÿ îáëàñòü Äîáðÿíñêèé ð-îí ñ.Äîáðÿíêà .Èùåì ðîäñòâåííèêîâ. --- èùó ðîäñâåííèêîâ | | |
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Ðàäà âèäåòü îäíîôàìèëüöà. Íà êàêîé ñòàäèè âàøèõ ïîèñêîâ Âû íàõîäèòåñü? Àíàëèçèðîâàëè ëè äàííûå ÎÁÄ "Ìåìîðèàë"? Ïî Êîâàëåâûì ýòî, êîíå÷íî, íåïðîñòî... --- Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
Êëûøêèí Âëàñåíêî Ñàêóíîâ Êó÷åðÿâåíêî (Ãëóõîâ)
Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.) | | |
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1 íîÿáðÿ 2012 21:01 Ìû íàøëè ìîãèëó äåäà è ïîñëåäíé äîêóìåíò ñ çàïèñüþ î åãî ðàíåíèè è âïîñëåäñòâèè ñìåðòè.Âîò ïîêà è âñ¸. ß çíàþ,÷òî Êîâàë¸â ôàìèëèÿ ðàñïðîñòðàí¸ííàÿ íî èìÿ Àáðàì äà¸ò íàäåæäó íà ïîëîæèòåëüíûé ðåçóëüòàò.Ïîêà íè î ðîäñòâåííèêàõ íè î í¸ì ñàìîì,êòî îí,êòî åãî ðîäèòåëè,ãäå åãî ñåñòðà èëè áðàò ìû íè÷åãî íå çíàåì. Íàäåþñü ,÷òî âñêîðå íàéä¸ì. Ñïàñèáî çà ó÷àñòèå,æåëàþ âàì óäà÷è. --- èùó ðîäñâåííèêîâ | | |
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1 íîÿáðÿ 2012 21:10 1 íîÿáðÿ 2012 21:12 Òîãäà Âàì ìîæíî: 1. îòìåòèòüñÿ â ýòîé òåìå - è ïî÷èòàòü åå, âäðóã êòî-òî óæå èùåò êîãî-òî â òåõ êðàÿõ? 2. åñëè åñòü êàêèå-òî âîïðîñû ïî öåðêâàì è ïðèõîäàì, çàäàòü èõ çäåñü3. ïî÷èòàòü òåìó ïî ÄÀ×Î, ïðè íåîáõîäèìîñòè çàäàòü âîïðîñû î íàëè÷èè ìåòðèê, ðåâèçèé, èñïîâåäîê è ò.ï. Êñòàòè, îíè ìîãóò áûòü è ó ìîðìîíîâ Ñîáñòâåííî, êîãäà ÿ ãîâîðèëà îá àíàëèçå äàííûõ, ÿ èìåëà â âèäó, ÷òî â èäåàëå ñëåäîâàëî áû ïîèñêàòü íà ÎÁÄ "Ìåìîðèàë" ÂÑÅÕ Êîâàëåâûõ èç Âàøåãî ñåëà, ïîñêîëüêó âñå îíè ìîãóò áûòü Âàøåé ðîäíåé. Óñïåõîâ! --- Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
Êëûøêèí Âëàñåíêî Ñàêóíîâ Êó÷åðÿâåíêî (Ãëóõîâ)
Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.) | | |
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22 ÿíâàðÿ 2013 16:44 Òàòüÿíà Åâãåíüåâíà, áîëüøîå ñïàñèáî! --- Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
Êëûøêèí Âëàñåíêî Ñàêóíîâ Êó÷åðÿâåíêî (Ãëóõîâ)
Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.) | | |
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22 ÿíâàðÿ 2013 18:16 22 ÿíâàðÿ 2013 18:17 The History of Slavs Inferred from Complete Mitochondrial Genome Sequences Marta Mielnik-Sikorska, Patrycja Daca, Boris Malyarchuk, Miroslava Derenko, Katarzyna Skonieczna, Maria Perkova, Tadeusz Dobosz ... http://www.plosone.org/article...ne.0054360 The third most common in Europe and the least studied is haplogroup H5. This subclade reaches maximal frequencies in Southern Europe (4–6%), but is virtually absent in the Middle East [25], [27]–[29]. In Slavic populations, H5 is observed at frequencies from 3.2% in Ukraine to 2.5% in Poland, Russia, Czech Republic and Slovakia ([14]–[23] ( à ãäå Áåëîðóññèÿ?!) and data presented in this study). Due to the higher occurrence of H5 in southern European populations and evolutionary age of ca. 16 ky, which coincides with the period of increased migration from southern to northern parts of Europe after the LGM, the reconstruction of its H5 phylogeny could provide an important information on relatively recent processes that took place in the history of European continent. It is also worth noting that some clusters of H5, like H5a could have been of central European origin [14], [24], [27], [30], [31]. Thus, one may assume that phylogenetic reconstruction of H5 together with the information on the geographical distribution of haplotypes belonging to this clade could be helpful in evaluating the origin of Slavs. Ýòî ãã ìîåé áåëîðóññêîé ïðàáàáêè Àêèëèíû Èâàíîâíû (ïî ìóæó Êîâàëåâîé) èç ä. Øàáëè Êëèìîâèöêîãî ó. (ñîâð. Êîñòþêîâè÷ñêèé ð-í) Ìîãèëåâñêîé îáë. Æàëü, ÷òî äàëüøå íåå (îíà ðîäèëàñü îê. 1860 ã.) ÿ íèêîãî íå çíàþ... --- Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
Êëûøêèí Âëàñåíêî Ñàêóíîâ Êó÷åðÿâåíêî (Ãëóõîâ)
Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.) | | |
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16 ìàðòà 2013 14:50 Ìîé ïðåäîê Êîâàëåâ Ñåìåí Âàñèëüåâè÷ ñî ñâîèìè äåòüìè Ôåäîñååì, Àíäðååì è Àëåêñàíäðîé (ìîÿ ïðàáàáóøêà) ïðèøëè èç Áåëîðóññèè, òî÷íî íå çíàþ îòêóäà, íî ïî ðàññêàçàì èç Ãîìåëüñêîé ãóáåðíèè èëè óåçäà. À ïðèøëè îíè â Íîâîñèáèðñêóþ îáë. Êûøòîâñêèé ð-í ä. Àïòóðàê --- Áó(ë)ãàêîâû, Êà(î)øèíñêèå, Òåðÿåâû, Êðàâöîâû, Êîâàëåâû, Àðòåìåíêî, Øà(å)áàøåâû, Õðûêèíû, Ïàâëîâû, Ãëóøêîâû, Òåëåãèíû, Ëóïàíîâû, Ìåùåðÿêîâû, Àðòàìîíîâû, Èâàíîâû, Áàðàíîâû, Âîðîïàåâû, Àäðèàíîâû, Øèëîâû. | | |
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