Íàðèñóéòå ñâîå äðåâî. Áåñïëàòíî. Îíëàéí.   [õ]
˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜ ˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜˜ ˜˜˜˜˜
Íà ñàéòå ÂÃÄ ñîáèðàþòñÿ ëþäè, óâëå÷åííûå ãåíåàëîãèåé, èñòîðèåé, ãåðàëüäèêîé è ò.ä. Çäåñü âû íàéäåòå ñîáåñåäíèêîâ, ýêñïåðòîâ, óìåëûõ ïîìîùíèêîâ â ïîèñêàõ ïðåäêîâ è ðîäñòâåííèêîâ. Âàì ïîäñêàæóò ãäå èñêàòü äîêóìåíòû î ïàâøèõ â áîÿõ è ïðîïàâøèõ áåç âåñòè, â êàêîé àðõèâ îáðàòèòüñÿ ïðè èññëåäîâàíèè ðîäîñëîâíîé ñâîåé ñåìüè, ïîìîãóò îïðåäåëèòü ïî ñòàðîé ôîòîãðàôèè ïðèíàäëåæíîñòü ê âîèíñêèì ÷àñòÿì, âåäîìñòâàì è ÷èíó. ÂÃÄ - ïîèñê ëþäåé â ïðîøëîì, íàñòîÿùåì è áóäóùåì!
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ÄÍÊ-ãåíåàëîãèÿ. Âîïðîñû íîâè÷êîâ

È îòâåòû îïûòíûõ ))

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Ìîäåðàòîðû: Lesla, Andrey Maslennikov
Íàòàøà ÑÌ
Îðãàíèçàòîð Ñìîëåíñêîãî Ãåíåàëîãè÷åñêîãî êëóáà

Íàòàøà ÑÌ

ãîðîä-ãåðîé Ñìîëåíñê
Ñîîáùåíèé: 3085
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2012 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 2628
Áëàãîäàðÿ ôîðóì÷àíàì çàðàçèëàñü èäååé ñäåëàòü ÄÍÊ-òåñò 101.gif

Íî ïîíÿëà, ÷òî î÷åíü òðóäíî âûáèðàòü íóæíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ ïî êðóïèíêàì èç ðàçíûõ òåì, èç äíåâíèêîâ ó÷àñòíèêîâ è ò.ä. Ïîñòåïåííî çàáûâàåøü, ÷òî ãäå ïðî÷èòàë ,à âòîðîé ðàç íå âñåãäà íàéòè ïîëó÷àåòñÿ. Äà åùå, ÷àñòåíüêî, è ïîíÿòü íå ìîæåøü íåçíàêîìûå àááðåâèàòóðû è ñëîâà, à ïðîñèòü êàæäûé ðàç ïåðåâåñòè " ñ ðóññêîãî íà ðóññêèé" - êàê-òî íåóäîáíî confuse.gif È òàê, íà ôîíå äèñêóññèé îïûòíûõ ôîðóì÷àí ÷óâñòâóåøü ñåáÿ íå ñîâñåì ðàçóìíûì ñóùåñòâîì)))

À âîïðîñîâ êó÷à!!! smile_030.gif Õîòÿ, ÿ óâåðåíà, ó âñåõ íà÷èíàþùèõ, îäíè è òå æå âîïðîñû, ñîìíåíèÿ è ò.ä. Èíòåðåñ ê ýòîìó äåëó âñ¸ ðàñòåò è æåëàþùèõ âñ¸ áîëüøå è áîëüøå.
Ïîýòîìó î÷åíü ïðîøó çíàþùèõ è îïûòíûõ â ýòîì äåëå èññëåäîâàòåëåé, ïîìî÷ü íàì, íîâè÷êàì, â îñâîåíèè ÄÍÊ-ãåíåàëîãèè 101.gif

Ïîíèìàþ, ÷òî ìíîãèå ó ñåáÿ âûêëàäûâàëè ðàíåå êàêèå-òî ñîâåòû è ðåêîìåíäàöèè, äåëèëèñü îïûòîì - ïðîñòî îñòàâüòå çäåñü ññûëî÷êè, ïîæàëóéñòà. Äóìàþ, òàê íîâè÷êè (â òîì ÷èñëå, è ÿ) áûñòðåå ðàçáåðóòñÿ è áóäóò Âàì î÷åíü áëàãîäàðíû!

Íó è êîíå÷íî, ÿ äóìàþ, ÄÍÊ-ñîîáùåñòâî òîëüêî âûèãðàåò, åñëè áëàãîäàðÿ ýòîé òåìå ê íåìó ïðèñîåäèíÿòñÿ íîâåíüêèå "äíê-íàðêîìàíû", êàê âûðàçèëñÿ êòî-òî èç ôîðóì÷àí confuse.gif


Êîììåíòàðèé ìîäåðàòîðà:
Ìîé (Lesla) êàíàë â Òåëåãðàììå, ãäå áóäó ïðîáîâàòü ðàññêàçûâàòü íîâè÷êàì î ïðèìåíåíèè ìåòîäîâ ÄÍÊ-òåñòèðîâàíèÿ â ãåíåàëîãèè - https://t.me/gen_gen25

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Ôèëèìîíîâû - Ñìîëåíñêàÿ ãóáåðíèÿ, Ïîðå÷ñêèé è Äóõîâùèíñêèé óåçäû, ìåùàíå ã.Âåëèæà
Âàéñáëèò - Óêðàèíà
Ðåéñëåð - Àâñòðî-Âåíãðèÿ, Êèøèí¸â
Ìàñëîâû - Ñò.Íåêðàñîâêà, Èçìàèë
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Ðàáîòàþ â àðõèâàõ Ñìîëåíñêà ñ 2013ã. Ïîìîãó â âàøèõ ïîèñêàõ.

Ìîé òåëåãðàì-êàíàë https://t.me/gen_sysk
Ëàéê (8)
kbg_dnepr

Äíèïðî (áûâø. Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê)
Ñîîáùåíèé: 7049
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 4362
Âîò ÷òî ïèøó ÿ íàðîäó, êîòîðûé íå õî÷åò "øàðèòüñÿ":

thank you for your message and accepting my introduction.
It's a pity you don't want to share, although I think, it doesn‘t have much sense: for a traceable link there must be at least 0.50% in common in SOME segments. Up to now, only my cousin and my aunt have matches which are graded 3rd to 5th cousin, but they didn't accept the sharing yet sad.gif. And to find a common ancestor in the 6th or 7th generation I should know 32 or 64 ancestors... As I only know 2 lines on my father's side, there is much to dig till then a_003.gif

I manage here 5 accounts: me, my mom, my maternal cousin, my paternal aunt and my husband.
I'm already 3 years here, I tested my husband and myself 2 years ago. I'm interested in genealogy, and in Russia the archives are partly destroyed in the years of revolutions and wars, not digitalized and sometimes difficult to access. So I did the tests in the hope to find some 3rd or 4th cousins. I didn't so far but I hope now when the price is affordable for more people this can change. So I invite all my DNA-Relatives to share. If a person accepts, I can see in My Results - Ancestry Tools - Family Inheritance: Advanced where precisely we match (on which chr., what part of it, how long is the common segment).
An impressive story here: http://www.yourgeneticgenealog...alogist%29

Best

Catherine

Ñìûñë: ñïàñèáî, ÷òî ïðèíÿëè ìîå ïðåäñòàâëåíèå, æàëü, ÷òî íå õîòèòå "øàðèòüñÿ".  ñëó÷àå øåðèíãà ÿ ñìîãó óâèäåòü, ãäå êîíêðåòíî ìû ñîâïàäàåì.

 ïðèíöèïå, ñàìîå ãëàâíîå - ýòî ÷òîáû ÷åëîâåê íàïèñàë, îòêóäà ïðåäêè è êàêèå ôàìèëèè. Åñëè íè÷åãî áëèçêîãî íåò, òî è Áîã ñ íèì, è âîò åñëè åñòü íàäåæäà... Òîãäà íàäî åãî êàê-òî îñòîðîæíî ñîáëàçíÿòü a_003.gif

×òî êàñàåòñÿ ñòåïåíè èíòåðåñíîñòè: åñëè äàìà åâðåéêà, òî ýòî ìîæåò áûòü íå î÷åíü èíòåðåñíî (ó åâðååâ, êîòîð³å âñå ìåæäó ñîáîé â ïåðåêðåñòíîì ðîäñòâå, çíà÷èòåëüíî áîëüøå íè÷åãî íå ãîâîðÿùèõ îáùèõ ñåãìåíòîâ), à âîò åñëè íåò, òî ìîæåò áûòü î÷åíü äàæå èíòåðåñíî.
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Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
Êëûøêèí Âëàñåíêî Ñàêóíîâ Êó÷åðÿâåíêî (Ãëóõîâ)
Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.)
ellenna

Êàëóãà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 371
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2007 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 2757
Ðàçúÿñíèòå, ïîæàëóéñòà:
îòïðàâèëà raw data íà Gedmatch, âñå èõ ïîìåòèëè çâåçäî÷êàìè. Ïîòîì çâåçäî÷êè ñíÿëè è ÿ ìîãëà ñðàâíèâàòü. Äâå íåäåëè íàçàä çâåçäî÷êè ïîÿâèëèñü îïÿòü. Ýòî îáùàÿ ïðàêòèêà? èëè ÷òî-òî íå òàê?
Ñ óâàæåíèåì,
ellenna
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Ýëüìàíîâè÷, ×èñòÿêîâ, Ãðàáëèí, Êóäðÿâöåâ, Âèíîãðàäîâ, Óøàêîâ
kbg_dnepr

Äíèïðî (áûâø. Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê)
Ñîîáùåíèé: 7049
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 4362
Ïîëó÷åííûå äàííûå àóòîñîìíîãî òåñòà (àðõèâèðîâàííûé ôàéë raw data) õîðîøî áû îòîñëàòü àìåðèêàíñêîìó ïðîôåññîðó ÌàêÄîíàëäó mcdonald@scs.uiuc.edu

Âîçìîæíûé òåêñò:

Dear Professor Mcdonald,

I've got my 23&me results.
May I ask you to help me by interpreting them?
My ancestors come from ...

Regards
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Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
Êëûøêèí Âëàñåíêî Ñàêóíîâ Êó÷åðÿâåíêî (Ãëóõîâ)
Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.)
Tusia

Tusia

Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 1551
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2011 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 2849
À ïðîôåññîðó ìîæíî òîëüêî 23 îòïðàâëÿòü èëè FTDNA òîæå?
kbg_dnepr

Äíèïðî (áûâø. Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê)
Ñîîáùåíèé: 7049
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 4362
Îòïðàâëÿòü ìîæíî ëþáîé àóòîñîìíûé òåñò.

Òàê âûãëÿäÿò åãî ýòíîïëîòû:

http://forum.molgen.org/index....cseen.html
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Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
Êëûøêèí Âëàñåíêî Ñàêóíîâ Êó÷åðÿâåíêî (Ãëóõîâ)
Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.)
Tusia

Tusia

Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 1551
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2011 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 2849
Âñòðåòèëà â îïèñè íåêîòîðûå äåëà ñ òàêèì íàçâàíèåì:
Äåëî î íàñèëüñòâåííîì çàêðåïîùåíèè âîåííîïëåííûõ øâåäîâ

È íåìíîãî ñòàëî ïîíÿòíî, îòêóäà áåðóòñÿ øâåäñêèå, àíãëèéñêèå êîðíè.
Ëàéê (1)
Åëåíà Àëåêñàíäðîâíà

Åëåíà Àëåêñàíäðîâíà

Ñîîáùåíèé: 1649
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 1164
Àíãëè÷àíå è Øâåäû - ïëåìåíà íåìöåâ.
Ïîòîì è íåìöû â ýòíîêàëüêóëÿòîðå ïîÿâëÿþòñÿ ó íàðîäà ñ êðåïîñòíûìè â ðîäîñëîâíîé101.gif
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U5a1d2a.ô-èè: Êîðîòêåâè÷, Ìèõàëåíêî,Ìèíåíêî, Êîøëà÷åâ, Õîëîäîê, Áåëÿíñêèé (Êóáàíü); Ïðàâèêîâ (Ìîñêâà è Ðÿçàíü - Ñïàññêèé ìåùàíèí); Äðîáûøåâñêèé (Øåïîòîâè÷è, ×å÷åðñê); Áåëàðóñü: Êàðòóí, Àíöóê, Åíæèåâñêèé, Åíäðæèåâñêèé, Ñóêà÷, Ìåëåøêåâè÷, Ëîìàêî, Áîéêà÷åâ, Êóð÷èöêèé, Ùóðà, Ãàëÿêåâè÷.
Svetlana

Svetlana

Riga, Latvia
Ñîîáùåíèé: 559
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2003 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 269
ðàçáèðàþñü ÿ ïîòõîíüêó ñ àóòîñîìíûì òåñòîì.
Âûÿâèëà ó îïðåäåëåííûõ ñîâïàäåíöåâ ñîâïàäåíèå íà îïðåäåëåííîé õðîìîñîìå - åñòü 5-ðî íà 2-é, 4-ðî íà 9-é è 3-å íà 14-é
Îáúÿñåíèòå ÷òî çíà÷èò ñîâïàäåíèå íà îïðåäåëåííîì íîìåðå õðîìîñîìû? dntknw.gif

èëè îòîøëèòå ãäå ïî÷èòàòü peace.gif
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Èùó
Ñòðåïóõîâûõ, Êóïëåíêî, Áåçðó÷êî – Ðîñòîâñêàÿ îáëàñòü
Çàâüÿëîâûõ – Âëàäèìèðñêàÿ, Ðÿçàíñêàÿ îáëàñòü
Çóåâûõ, Ãðèãîðüåâûõ, Áèòÿé – Áåëàðóñü, Âÿçüìà, Ñ-Ïåòåðáóðã
kbg_dnepr

Äíèïðî (áûâø. Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê)
Ñîîáùåíèé: 7049
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 4362
Svetlana

Ñâåòà, Âû æå òåñòèðîâàëèñü íà ÔÒÄÍÀ, âåðíî? Òîãäà ìîé îïûò íà 23ýíäÌè Âàì íå ïîìîæåò, íî, âîçìîæíî, áóäåò ïîëåçåí õîòÿ áû â êà÷åñòâå èëëþñòðàöèè îáùåãî ïðèíöèïà.

Åñëè Âû ïîñìîòðèòå íà ñïèñîê ñîâïàäåíöåâ ìîåé òåòè, êîòîðûé ÿ îòñîðòèðîâàëà ïî õðîìîñîìàì è ìåñòó íà÷àëà îáùåãî ñåãìåíòà, òî Âû óâèäèòå, ÷òî áÎëüøàÿ ÷àñòü ñîâïàäåíöåâ ðàñïðåäåëÿåòñÿ íå ðàâíîìåðíî ïî âñåìó ãåíîìó, à ñîáèðàåòñÿ â êó÷êè. ß äóìàþ, ÷òî ýòî êàêèå-òî ýòíîòèïè÷íûå áëîêè. Âîçìîæíî, èìåííî ïî íèì ðàññ÷èòûâàþò (è, äàñò Áîã, â áëèæàéøåå âðåìÿ ðàññ÷èòàþò) íàøè ýòíîïîðòðåòû. ß äóìàþ, èìåííî ïî íèì íà ÃÅÄìýò÷å âûñòðàèâàþò ãèïîòåòè÷åñêèå "ñåìüè". Åñëè, êîíå÷íî, ñîâïàäåíèå â îäíîì ìåñòå. Ïîòîìó ÷òî åñëè âñå 5 ÷åëîâåê, ñîâïàäàþùèå ñ Âàìè íà 5-é õð., ñîâïàäàþò íà ðàçíûõ ìåñòàõ â íåé, òî ýòî íå çíà÷èò ñîâñåì íè÷åãî. Ëè÷íî ìíå òàê êààööà dntknw.gif


Ïðèêðåïëåííûé ôàéë (AF_OI_401-17.xlsx, 88250 áàéò)
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Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
Êëûøêèí Âëàñåíêî Ñàêóíîâ Êó÷åðÿâåíêî (Ãëóõîâ)
Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.)
Svetlana

Svetlana

Riga, Latvia
Ñîîáùåíèé: 559
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2003 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 269
âñå ñîâïàäàþò íà ïðàêòè÷åñêè îäèíàêîâîì ðàññòîÿíèè (ìåñòå)
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Èùó
Ñòðåïóõîâûõ, Êóïëåíêî, Áåçðó÷êî – Ðîñòîâñêàÿ îáëàñòü
Çàâüÿëîâûõ – Âëàäèìèðñêàÿ, Ðÿçàíñêàÿ îáëàñòü
Çóåâûõ, Ãðèãîðüåâûõ, Áèòÿé – Áåëàðóñü, Âÿçüìà, Ñ-Ïåòåðáóðã
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