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6 ìàðòà 2017 9:27 ÌÎÑÊÂÀ, 3 ìàð – ÐÈÀ Íîâîñòè. Àíòðîïîëîãè èç Ìîñêîâñêîãî óíèâåðñèòåòà çàÿâëÿþò, ÷òî ëåãåíäàðíûå ñêèôñêèå ïëåìåíà, æèâøèå â þæíûõ ñòåïÿõ Óêðàèíû è Ðîññèè, áûëè êîðåííûì íàñåëåíèåì ýòèõ ðåãèîíîâ, ñìåøàâøèìñÿ ñ íåáîëüøèì ÷èñëîì ìèãðàíòîâ èç Öåíòðàëüíîé Àçèè, ãîâîðèòñÿ â ñòàòüå, îïóáëèêîâàííîé â American Journal of Physical Anthropology. https://ria.ru/science/20170303/1489196769.htmlÍåñêîëüêî ñâåæèõ ñòàòåé î äÄÍÊ. Mitochondrial DNA analysis of eneolithic trypillians from Ukraine reveals neolithic farming genetic rootsAlexey G. Nikitin, Inna Potekhina, Nadin Rohland, Swapan Mallick, David Reich, Malcolm Lillie Published: February 24, 2017 http://dx.doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0172952Abstract The agricultural revolution in Eastern Europe began in the Eneolithic with the Cucuteni-Trypillia culture complex. In Ukraine, the Trypillian culture (TC) existed for over two millennia (ca. 5,400–2,700 BCE) and left a wealth of artifacts. Yet, their burial rituals remain a mystery and to date almost nothing is known about the genetic composition of the TC population. One of the very few TC sites where human remains can be found is a cave called Verteba in western Ukraine. This report presents four partial and four complete mitochondrial genomes from nine TC individuals uncovered in the cave. The results of this analysis, combined with the data from previous reports, indicate that the Trypillian population at Verteba carried, for the most part, a typical Neolithic farmer package of mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) lineages traced to Anatolian farmers and Neolithic farming groups of central Europe. At the same time, the find of two specimens belonging to haplogroup U8b1 at Verteba can be viewed as a connection of TC with the Upper Paleolithic European populations. At the level of mtDNA haplogroup frequencies, the TC population from Verteba demonstrates a close genetic relationship with population groups of the Funnel Beaker/ Trichterbecker cultural complex from central and northern Europe (ca. 3,950–2,500 BCE). http://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/03/02/112714Extensive farming in Estonia started through a sex-biased migration from the SteppeLehti Saag, Liivi Varul, Christiana Lyn Scheib, Jesper Stenderup, Morten E Allentoft, Lauri Saag, Luca Pagani, Maere Reidla, Kristiina Tambets, Ene Metspalu, Aivar Kriiska, Eske Willerslev, Toomas Kivisild, Mait Metspalu doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/112714Abstract Farming-based economies appear relatively late in Northeast Europe and the extent to which they involve genetic ancestry change is still poorly understood. Here we present the analyses of low coverage whole genome sequence data from five hunter-gatherers and five farmers of Estonia dated to 4,500 to 6,300 years before present. We find evidence of significant differences between the two groups in the composition of autosomal as well as mtDNA, X and Y chromosome ancestries. We find that Estonian hunter-gatherers of Comb Ceramic Culture are closest to Eastern hunter-gatherers. The Estonian first farmers of Corded Ware Culture show high similarity in their autosomes with Steppe Belt Late Neolithic/Bronze Age individuals, Caucasus hunter-gatherers and Iranian farmers while their X chromosomes are most closely related with the European Early Farmers of Anatolian descent. These findings suggest that the shift to intensive cultivation and animal husbandry in Estonia was triggered by the arrival of new people with predominantly Steppe ancestry, but whose ancestors had undergone sex-specific admixture with early farmers with Anatolian ancestry. Ancestry and demography and descendants of Iron Age nomads of the Eurasian SteppeMartina Unterländer, Friso Palstra, Iosif Lazaridis, Aleksandr Pilipenko, Zuzana Hofmanová, Melanie Groß, Christian Sell, Jens Blöcher, Karola Kirsanow, Nadin Rohland, Benjamin Rieger, Elke Kaiser, Wolfram Schier, Dimitri Pozdniakov, Aleksandr Khokhlov, Myriam Georges, Sandra Wilde, Adam Powell, Evelyne Heyer, Mathias Currat, David Reich, Zainolla Samashev, Hermann Parzinger, Vyacheslav I. Molodin & Joachim Burger Abstract During the 1st millennium before the Common Era (BCE), nomadic tribes associated with the Iron Age Scythian culture spread over the Eurasian Steppe, covering a territory of more than 3,500 km in breadth. To understand the demographic processes behind the spread of the Scythian culture, we analysed genomic data from eight individuals and a mitochondrial dataset of 96 individuals originating in eastern and western parts of the Eurasian Steppe. Genomic inference reveals that Scythians in the east and the west of the steppe zone can best be described as a mixture of Yamnaya-related ancestry and an East Asian component. Demographic modelling suggests independent origins for eastern and western groups with ongoing gene-flow between them, plausibly explaining the striking uniformity of their material culture. We also find evidence that significant gene-flow from east to west Eurasia must have occurred early during the Iron Age. http://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms14615 --- Äíåâíèê http://forum.vgd.ru/931/ | | |
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14 ìàðòà 2017 13:23 ïåíåëîïà íàïèñàë: [q] ÌÎÑÊÂÀ, 3 ìàð – ÐÈÀ Íîâîñòè. Àíòðîïîëîãè èç Ìîñêîâñêîãî óíèâåðñèòåòà çàÿâëÿþò, ÷òî ëåãåíäàðíûå ñêèôñêèå ïëåìåíà, æèâøèå â þæíûõ ñòåïÿõ Óêðàèíû è Ðîññèè, áûëè êîðåííûì íàñåëåíèåì ýòèõ ðåãèîíîâ, ñìåøàâøèìñÿ ñ íåáîëüøèì ÷èñëîì ìèãðàíòîâ èç Öåíòðàëüíîé Àçèè, ãîâîðèòñÿ â ñòàòüå, îïóáëèêîâàííîé â American Journal of Physical Anthropology. https://ria.ru/science/20170303/1489196769.html[/q]
Òàì èñïîëüçîâàëèñü äàííûå êðàíèîëîãèè, ÄÍÊ âîîáùå íå èñïîëüçîâàëè ïî ïðè÷èíå äîðîãîâèçíû. ×åñòíî ãîâîðÿ, ÿ íåñêîëüêî ïðåäóáåæä¸í, íî ôðàçà "ó÷¸íûå èç ÌÃÓ" çâó÷èò òàê, ñëîâíî ñòóäåíòû íàïèñàë äèïëîì âñåãî ëèøü. Âûâîäû òàì ñäåëàíû ñåðü¸çíûå, à âîò ìåòîä êàê-òî íå î÷åíü ñîâðåìåíåí äëÿ òàêèõ âûâîäîâ. Èñïîëüçîâàòü êðàíèîëîãèþ äëÿ èçó÷åíèÿ ýòíîãåíåçèñà - ýòî ïðîøëûé âåê, ïî-ìîåìó. --- Ñàâîí÷óê, Ïèãàëü, Áðóöêèå, Êîçóáîâñêèå, Êîíîí÷óê, Ãóçîâåö (Âîëûíñêàÿ ãóá.), Øóòûëåâû, Âîðîæöîâû, Þôåðåâû, Ìèõååâû, Æåëîíêèíû, Âàâèëîâû, Ôîìèíûõ, Îíó÷èíû (Âÿòñêàÿ ãóá.)
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16 ìàðòà 2017 7:38 16 ìàðòà 2017 7:38 Îäíîâðåìåííî ñ ýòîé ñòàòüåé âûøëà è ñòàòüÿ î ãåíåòèêå, ññûëêà âûøå. Îäíî äðóãîìó íå ïðîòèâîðå÷èò.
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3 àïðåëÿ 2017 15:57 ..Íîâîñòè ñàéòà..Äîáàâëåíà áîëüøàÿ ïîðöèÿ íîâîñòåé: Ïðåäëîæåíî îáúÿñíåíèå àíîìàëüíîãî áåñïëîäèÿ æåíùèí Èçó÷åíû ïåðâûå ìóòàöèè, âîçíèêàþùèå â ÷åëîâå÷åñêîì îðãàíèçìå Çäîðîâûé îáðàç æèçíè âàñ íå çàùèòèò îò ðàêà Ó÷åíûå íàøëè åùå îäèí íîâûé ãåí, ñâÿçàííûé ñ áîëåçíüþ Àëüöãåéìåðà Êëàññèôèöèðîâàíû ðåäêèå ãåíåòè÷åñêèå ïðè÷èíû îæèðåíèÿ Ãåíåòèêè âûÿñíèëè, êòî èç ìóæ÷èí ìîæåò îáëûñåòü ðàíüøå âðåìåíè Ó÷åíûå óçíàëè, êîìó ãðîçèò âíåçàïíàÿ ñìåðòü Ó÷åíûå íàøëè íîâûé ãåí, ñâÿçàííûé ñ ðåäêèì íàñëåäñòâåííûì çàáîëåâàíèåì Ñêîðîñòü ñòàðåíèÿ ìîçãà îïðåäåëÿåò îäèí êîâàðíûé ãåí Ó÷¸íûå ïîêàçàëè, ÷òî ãåíû ÷åëîâåêà è äðóãèõ ïðèìàòîâ ìóòèðóþò ñî ñõîæåé ñêîðîñòüþ Ñåðïîâèäíîêëåòî÷íóþ àíåìèþ âïåðâûå âûëå÷èëè ãåííîé òåðàïèåé Ðåäàêòèðîâàíèå ãåíîìà èñïûòàëè íà æèçíåñïîñîáíûõ ýìáðèîíàõ ÷åëîâåêà Ãåíåòèêè âûÿñíèëè, êòî èç ìóæ÷èí ìîæåò îáëûñåòü ðàíüøå âðåìåíè Ãåíû íåàíäåðòàëüöåâ çàùèùàþò ëþäåé îò øèçîôðåíèè Íàéäåí ýôôåêòèâíûé ñïîñîá ðåäàêòèðîâàíèÿ ÄÍÊ Ó÷åíûå íàøëè íîâûé ãåí, îòâå÷àþùèé çà âîñïàëèòåëüíóþ ðåàêöèþ Ãåíû è îêðóæàþùàÿ ñðåäà âëèÿþò íà òî, êàê ìîçã îáðàáàòûâàåò ÿçûê Ïî ÄÍÊ ÷åëîâåêà ìîæíî ïðåäñêàçàòü, íà êîì îí æåíèòñÿ Ãåíîòèï ïîâûøåííîé ðàçäðàæèòåëüíîñòè Îáíàðóæåíû íîâûå ãåíû, îòâå÷àþùèå çà ðàñïðîñòðàíåíèå ðàêà è ò.ä. --- Ïëàòíûì ïîèñêîì íå çàíèìàþñü.  ëè÷êå ÍÅ êîíñóëüòèðóþ. Çàäàâàéòå, ïîæ-ñòà, âîïðîñû â ñîîòâåòñòâóþùèõ òåìàõ, âàì òàì îòâåòßÒ.
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3 àïðåëÿ 2017 15:59 ..Ïî÷åìó ñåðâèñû ÄÍÊ-òåñòîâ — ðàçâëå÷åíèå, à íå ìåäèöèíà..Äåñÿòü ëåò íàçàä, â 2006 ãîäó, Ýíí Âîäæèñêè ñîçäàëà êîìïàíèþ 23andMe, êîòîðàÿ ïðåäëàãàëà êàæäîìó æåëàþùåìó çà $100 ïîëó÷èòü «ãåíåòè÷åñêèé ïàñïîðò».  í¸ì óêàçûâàëàñü èíôîðìàöèÿ î ñïîñîáíîñòÿõ, ïðîèñõîæäåíèè è ïðåäðàñïîëîæåííîñòè ê çàáîëåâàíèÿì. Êîìïàíèÿ íà÷àëà áûñòðî ðàñòè, à âî ìíîãèõ ñòðàíàõ, â òîì ÷èñëå â Ðîññèè, íà÷àëè ïîÿâëÿòüñÿ àíàëîãè÷íûå ñåðâèñû. Íî â 2013 ãîäó àìåðèêàíñêèé ðåãóëÿòîð çàïðåòèë 23andMe ïðîâîäèòü ÄÍÊ-òåñòû íà îïðåäåëåíèå çàáîëåâàíèé èç-çà ñïîðíîé èíòåðïðåòàöèè ðåçóëüòàòîâ.  Ðîññèè ó êîìïàíèé, ïðîâîäÿùèõ ãåíåòè÷åñêîå òåñòèðîâàíèå, ïîäîáíûõ ïðîáëåì íåò, îíè ïî-ïðåæíåìó îáåùàþò ïðåäîñòàâèòü ïàöèåíòó âñþ èíôîðìàöèþ î åãî çäîðîâüå è ïðåäðàñïîëîæåííîñòè ê áîëåçíÿì. Îñíîâàòåëü öåíòðà ãåíåòèêè è ðåïðîäóêòèâíîé ìåäèöèíû Genetico Àðòóð Èñàåâ ðàññêàçàë «Ñåêðåòó», ÷òî íå òàê ñ ïîäîáíûìè ãåíåòè÷åñêèìè òåñòàìè. Ñîâðåìåííûé ðûíîê óñëóã ãåíåòè÷åñêîé äèàãíîñòèêè ìîæíî ðàçäåëèòü íà òðè íàïðàâëåíèÿ: ïîçíàâàòåëüíóþ, ìåäèöèíñêóþ è ðàçâëåêàòåëüíóþ ãåíåòèêó. Ïîçíàâàòåëüíàÿ ãåíåòèêà ñâÿçàíà ñ ïðîèñõîæäåíèåì, å¸ èñïîëüçóþò äëÿ èäåíòèôèêàöèè ëè÷íîñòè, äëÿ îïðåäåëåíèÿ ðîäñòâà. Ê ìåäèöèíñêîé ãåíåòèêå ìîæíî îòíåñòè áîëüøîé ñïåêòð óñëóã ïî âûÿâëåíèþ ãåíåòè÷åñêèõ ïðè÷èí íàñëåäñòâåííûõ çàáîëåâàíèé è äëÿ ïðåäóïðåæäåíèÿ èõ ïåðåäà÷è èëè ðàçâèòèÿ, êîãäà èçâåñòíî, ÷òî íàëè÷èå èçìåíåíèé â ãåíàõ ñî 100-ïðîöåíòíîé èëè ñ î÷åíü âûñîêîé ñòåïåíüþ âåðîÿòíîñòè ñòàíåò ïðè÷èíîé áîëåçíè. Âñå ïîìíÿò èñòîðèþ Àíäæåëèíû Äæîëè, óäàëèâøåé ìîëî÷íûå æåëåçû, ÷òîáû óìåíüøèòü ðèñê ðàçâèòèÿ ðàêà ãðóäè. Âåðîÿòíîñòü å¸ çàáîëåâàíèÿ ðàêîì ìîëî÷íîé æåëåçû îöåíèâàëàñü â 86%. Ïðåäðàñïîëîæåííîñòü ÷åëîâåêà ê òîìó èëè èíîìó çàáîëåâàíèþ èíîãäà ñâÿçûâàþò ñ ïîëèìîðôèçìàìè. Ýòî íåêèå èçìåíåíèÿ â ãåíàõ, êîòîðûìè ëþäè îòëè÷àþòñÿ äðóã îò äðóãà. Âåðîÿòíîñòü, ñ êîòîðîé ýòè èçìåíåíèÿ ïðèâåäóò ê òåì èëè èíûì çàáîëåâàíèÿì, ïî äàííûì èññëåäîâàíèé, êîëåáëåòñÿ è â öåëîì íåâûñîêà. Äîëÿ âåðîÿòíîñòè, ñ êîòîðîé îïðåäåë¸ííûå èçìåíåíèÿ â ãåíàõ ïðèâåäóò ê êîíêðåòíûì çàáîëåâàíèÿì, íàçûâàåòñÿ ïåíåòðàíòíîñòüþ. Òàê âîò, ïåíåòðàíòíîñòü íåêîòîðûõ çàáîëåâàíèé ñîñòàâëÿåò 80–90%, à äðóãèõ — 30% è ìåíüøå. Ìû çíàåì îêîëî 6000 çàáîëåâàíèé ñ âûñîêîé ïåíåòðàíòíîñòüþ. Íî ñâÿçü íàèáîëåå ðàñïðîñòðàí¸ííûõ ñîöèàëüíî-çíà÷èìûõ çàáîëåâàíèé, òàêèõ êàê äèàáåò, ñåðäå÷íî-ñîñóäèñòûå çàáîëåâàíèÿ, àóòîèììóííûå è äðóãèå, ñ îïðåäåë¸ííûìè ãåíàìè è èçìåíåíèÿìè â íèõ ïîêà íåî÷åâèäíà è îáñóæäàåòñÿ. È çäåñü íà÷èíàåòñÿ ðàçãîâîð î ðàçâëåêàòåëüíîé ãåíåòèêå. Êàêèå óñëóãè ïðåäîñòàâëÿþò 23andMe è ïîäîáíûå îðãàíèçàöèè, ïðåäëàãàþùèå ãåíåòè÷åñêèå òåñòû ïî ïëåâêó? Îíè, ñ îäíîé ñòîðîíû, ñîäåðæàò äàííûå î ïðîèñõîæäåíèè, òî åñòü ïðåäîñòàâëÿþò óñëóãè ïî ïîçíàâàòåëüíîé ãåíåòèêå, êîãäà ìîæíî îïðåäåëèòü, ñðåäè êàêèõ ýòíè÷åñêèõ ãðóïï áûëà ðàñïðîñòðàíåíà ÷àñòü ãåíîâ, ñõîäíûõ ñ ãåíàìè ïðîõîäÿùåãî òåñò ÷åëîâåêà. Ýòà èíôîðìàöèÿ äîñòàòî÷íî òî÷íàÿ, îäíàêî ÷òî äà¸ò ýòî çíàíèå? Âîò ó ìåíÿ, íàïðèìåð, 4% ãåíîâ, êîòîðûå ÷àñòî âñòðå÷àþòñÿ ó èíäåéöåâ, — êàê ìíå ýòî èíòåðïðåòèðîâàòü? Çäåñü åñòü è ÷àñòü ìåäèöèíñêîé ãåíåòèêè. Îäíàêî áîëüøàÿ ÷àñòü äàííûõ î ãåíåòèêå, êîòîðûå îíè ïðåäîñòàâëÿþò, — ýòî ïîëèìîðôèçìû, ïðåäðàñïîëîæåííîñòè, íà èíòåðïðåòàöèþ êîòîðûõ ó âðà÷à íåò äîñòàòî÷íûõ îñíîâàíèé. Ãëàâíàÿ ïðîáëåìà 23andMe è äðóãèõ ïîäîáíûõ ñåðâèñîâ â òîì, ÷òî âåðîÿòíîñòü ïðîÿâëåíèÿ áîëüøèíñòâà ðàññìàòðèâàåìûõ èìè ãåíåòè÷åñêèõ èçìåíåíèé íå î÷åíü âûñîêà. Öåëûé ðÿä çàáîëåâàíèé, â òîì ÷èñëå äèàáåò è ñîñóäèñòî-ñåðäå÷íûå çàáîëåâàíèÿ, ñâÿçàíû íå ñ îäíèì ãåíîì, à ñ ãðóïïîé ãåíîâ, ïîýòîìó èçìåíåíèÿ òîëüêî îäíîãî èç ãåíîâ ìîæåò êàê ñåðü¸çíî ïîâëèÿòü íà çäîðîâüå ÷åëîâåêà, òàê è íå ïîâëèÿòü âîîáùå. Ó èññëåäîâàòåëåé ïîêà î÷åíü ìàëî íàó÷íîé èíôîðìàöèè î òîì, êàê èìåííî èçìåíåíèÿ â ãåíàõ ñâÿçàíû ñ ðàñïðîñòðàí¸ííûìè çàáîëåâàíèÿìè. Ïðîàíàëèçèðîâàâ, íàïðèìåð, 1000 ïàöèåíòîâ ñ äèàáåòîì, àâòîðû ãåíåòè÷åñêèõ òåñòîâ íàøëè ó áîëüøèíñòâà èç íèõ îáùóþ ãåíåòè÷åñêóþ îñîáåííîñòü, â îòëè÷èå îò îáùåé ïîïóëÿöèè, è íà ýòîì îñíîâàíèè ñäåëàëè âûâîä, ÷òî ëþäè ñ ïîäîáíîé îñîáåííîñòüþ áîëüøå ñêëîííû ê äèàáåòó. Íî áèîëîãè÷åñêè îíà ìîæåò áûòü íå ñâÿçàíà ñ äèàáåòîì, âîçìîæíî, ýòî ñëó÷àéíàÿ ñâÿçü. Ïðè ýòîì ðàçíûå ãåíåòè÷åñêèå ñòàðòàïû â ìèðå ïî-ðàçíîìó èíòåðïðåòèðóþò îäíè è òå æå ïîëèìîðôèçìû — è, åñëè êòî-òî âûÿâèë, ÷òî îïðåäåë¸ííàÿ îñîáåííîñòü óâåëè÷èâàåò ðèñêè çàáîëåâàíèÿ, êòî-òî ïðî òó æå îñîáåííîñòü ñêàæåò, ÷òî îíà óìåíüøàåò ðèñêè. Ýòî òî æå, ÷òî ñâÿçûâàòü êîëè÷åñòâî ëîñîñÿ, âûõîäÿùåãî íà íåðåñò íà Äàëüíåì Âîñòîêå, ñ ïîãîäîé â Àôðèêå. Âçàèìîñâÿçü ìåæäó ýòèìè ôàêòîðàìè ìîæåò âûÿâèòüñÿ, íî áóäåò ëè îíà èìåòü îñìûñëåííîñòü â ðåàëüíîñòè, — ýòî åù¸ âîïðîñ. Èíòåðïðåòèðîâàòü ïîëèìîðôèçìû ñ âûñîêîé ïåíåòðàíòíîñòüþ, êàê ó Àíäæåëèíû Äæîëè, âàæíî, íî 23andMe ïî áîëüøåé ÷àñòè èíòåðïðåòèðîâàë ïîëèìîðôèçìû, äîñòîâåðíîñòü è âîçìîæíîñòü ìåäèöèíñêîé èíòåðïðåòàöèè êîòîðûõ âûçûâàåò âîïðîñû. Íà òî, ÷òîáû ó âðà÷åé ïîÿâèëàñü âîçìîæíîñòü ñ îïðåäåë¸ííîñòüþ ãîâîðèòü î ïðåäðàñïîëîæåííîñòè ÷åëîâåêà ê áîëåçíÿì, ðàçâèòèå êîòîðûõ ñâÿçàííî ñ íåñêîëüêèìè ãåíàìè, óéäóò ãîäû — íàì òîëüêî ïðåäñòîèò ýòî èññëåäîâàòü è íàêîïèòü çíàíèÿ. Èç-çà òîãî ÷òî âðà÷ íå ìîæåò äîñòîâåðíî èíòåðïðåòèðîâàòü òàêèå äàííûå, îí íå ìîæåò âûäàòü ïàöèåíòó êîíêðåòíûå ðåêîìåíäàöèè.  ðåçóëüòàòå, ÷òîáû ñíèçèòü ðèñê ðàçâèòèÿ äèàáåòà è ñåðäå÷íî-ñîñóäèñòûõ çàáîëåâàíèé, ïàöèåíòó ñîâåòóþò òî, ÷òî ïîíÿòíî è áåç ãåíåòè÷åñêîãî òåñòà: åøüòå ìåíüøå æèðíîé è êàëîðèéíîé ïèùè, âåäèòå àêòèâíûé îáðàç æèçíè. Ìåäèöèíñêîå ñîîáùåñòâî íå âîñïðèíèìàåò âñåðü¸ç ðàçâëåêàòåëüíóþ ãåíåòèêó. Íî â öåëîì â ðàçâëåêàòåëüíîé ãåíåòèêå íåò íè÷åãî ïëîõîãî. ×òî âðåäíî, òàê ýòî îñòàâëÿòü ÷åëîâåêà íàåäèíå ñî ñâîèìè àíàëèçàìè. Ïî÷åìó 23andMe áûëî çàïðåùåíî ïðåäîñòàâëÿòü ñâîè óñëóãè? Íå ïîòîìó, ÷òî îíè äåëàëè òåñòû, à ïîòîìó, ÷òî îíè âûâàëèâàëè îãðîìíûé îáú¸ì èíôîðìàöèè, â òîì ÷èñëå ìåäèöèíñêîé, íà ÷åëîâåêà, êîòîðûé â ýòîì íè÷åãî íå ñìûñëèò, è îñòàâëÿëè åãî ñ íåé îäèí íà îäèí. Èíòåðïðåòàöèþ ãåíåòè÷åñêîé äèàãíîñòèêè ïàöèåíòó äîëæåí ïðåäîñòàâëÿòü âðà÷-ãåíåòèê, íà êîòîðîì ëåæèò îòâåòñòâåííîñòü çà ðåêîìåíäàöèè. ×åëîâåê íå ìîæåò ïðèíèìàòü ðåøåíèÿ ïî ïîâîäó ñâîåãî çäîðîâüÿ, èíòåðïðåòèðóÿ àíàëèçû ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíî. Åñëè âû îòìåòèëè ãàëî÷êîé â èíòåðíåòå, ÷òî ãîòîâû ïîëó÷èòü èíôîðìàöèþ î ñâîåé ãåíåòèêå, ñêëîííîñòÿõ ê çàáîëåâàíèÿì è óçíàòü, îò ÷åãî óìð¸òå, ýòî åù¸ íå çíà÷èò, ÷òî âû ê ýòîìó äåéñòâèòåëüíî ãîòîâû. Ïîëó÷èâ òàêóþ èíôîðìàöèþ, âû ìîæåòå íåïðàâèëüíî å¸ èíòåðïðåòèðîâàòü, ïðèíÿòü íåâåðíîå ðåøåíèå è íà÷àòü çàíèìàòüñÿ ñàìîëå÷åíèåì. Êîëëåãè èç 23andMe èëè ïîäîáíûõ êîìïàíèé ìîãóò óêàçûâàòü â àíàëèçàõ, åñòü ó ÷åëîâåêà èçìåíåíèÿ â ãåíå èëè íåò, íî íå èìåþò ïðàâà ñòàâèòü äèàãíîçû è ãîâîðèòü îá óðîâíå ðèñêà çàáîëåòü, íàïðèìåð, áîëåçíüþ Àëüöãåéìåðà.  ðÿäå ñòðàí ýòî ñòðîãî ðåãóëèðóåòñÿ: íàïðèìåð, â Ãåðìàíèè çàïðåùåíî ðåêëàìèðîâàòü ïîäîáíûå òåñòû, äàâàÿ èíôîðìàöèþ «âû ìîæåòå ïðîéòè òåñò è óçíàòü âñ¸ î ñâî¸ì çäîðîâüå». Åñëè âû äåéñòâèòåëüíî õîòèòå óçíàòü âñ¸ î ñâî¸ì çäîðîâüå, èäèòå ê âðà÷ó.  23andMe áîëüøå íå ïîêàçûâàþò è íå âûäàþò ó ñåáÿ ìåäèöèíñêóþ èíòåðïðåòàöèþ. Ó íèõ îñòàëèñü âåùè, ñâÿçàííûå ñ ïðîèñõîæäåíèåì, è ìèíèìóì âåùåé, ñâÿçàííûõ ñ èíòåðïðåòàöèåé âðîäå «â òàêîì-òî âîçðàñòå ó âàñ óâåëè÷èòñÿ ðèñê çàáîëåòü òåì-òî». Ñîâðåìåííûå ñåðâèñû, ïðîâîäÿùèå ÄÍÊ-òåñòû, ïûòàþòñÿ ïðèáëèçèòü áóäóùåå è íà÷àòü ïðåäîñòàâëÿòü óñëóãè, âðåìÿ äëÿ êîòîðûõ åù¸ íå ïðèøëî. Êîíå÷íî, ÿ óâåðåí, ÷òî ìåäèöèíà áóäåò ðàçâèâàòüñÿ â ýòîì íàïðàâëåíèè. Îñíîâíûå çíàíèÿ î ãåíåòèêå íàêîïèëèñü â ïîñëåäíèå 15-20 ëåò. Ìåäèöèíñêàÿ ãåíåòèêà ïîêà ìàëî ðàñïðîñòðàíåíà â øèðîêîé ìåäèöèíñêîé ïðàêòèêå. Ïî íàøèì äàííûì, â ÐÔ âñåãî îêîëî 500 ãåíåòèêîâ. Åñëè ó íàñ ïîÿâèòñÿ âîçìîæíîñòü ïîäñ÷èòûâàòü ðèñêè è ìîäåëèðîâàòü çäîðîâüå áóäóùèõ äåòåé, ìîæíî áóäåò ðåøèòü ìíîãî ïðîáëåì. --- Ïëàòíûì ïîèñêîì íå çàíèìàþñü.  ëè÷êå ÍÅ êîíñóëüòèðóþ. Çàäàâàéòå, ïîæ-ñòà, âîïðîñû â ñîîòâåòñòâóþùèõ òåìàõ, âàì òàì îòâåòßÒ.
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ïåíåëîïà Ñîîáùåíèé: 1370 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 954 | Íàâåðõ ##
5 àïðåëÿ 2017 15:32 Åâðîïåéñêèå ïàëåîãåíåòèêè âûÿñíèëè, ÷òî ïåðâûå íàðîäû Åâðîïû âîçíèêëè áëàãîäàðÿ áðà÷íûì ñîþçàì ìåæäó êî÷åâíèêàìè-ìèãðàíòàìè èç ðîññèéñêèõ ñòåïåé Ïðèêàñïèÿ è æåíùèíàìè-ôåðìåðàìè, æèâøèìè íà òåððèòîðèè Ñåâåðíîé Åâðîïû, ãîâîðèòñÿ â ñòàòüå, îïóáëèêîâàííîé â æóðíàëå Antiquity. "Íàì âïåðâûå óäàëîñü îáúåäèíèòü ãåíåòè÷åñêèå äàííûå è èíôîðìàöèþ ïî ìèãðàöèÿì è äèåòå äðåâíèõ ëþäåé, âû÷èñëåííóþ ïî äîëÿì èçîòîïîâ ñòðîíöèÿ, à òàêæå ëèíãâèñòè÷åñêèå äàííûå. Ìû ïîêàçàëè, ÷òî ìèãðàíòû èç Ïðèêàñïèÿ áûëè â îñíîâíîì ìóæ÷èíàìè, êîòîðûå æåíèëèñü íà ìåñòíûõ æåíùèíàõ èç ñåìåé ôåðìåðîâ êàìåííîãî âåêà", — çàÿâèë Êðèñòèàí Êðèñòèàíñåí (Kristian Kristiansen) èç óíèâåðñèòåòà Ãîòåíáóðãà (Øâåöèÿ). https://ria.ru/science/20170405/1491534934.html --- Äíåâíèê http://forum.vgd.ru/931/ | | |
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11 àïðåëÿ 2017 8:29 12 àïðåëÿ 2017 13:53 Ó÷åíûå ðåêîíñòðóèðîâàëè õîä «ìóæñêîé» âîëíû ìèãðàöèè èíäîåâðîïåéöåâ Ïåðâîèñòî÷íèê: ññûëêà --- Ïî/àñëàâñêèå èç Ìîãèëåâñêîé ãóáåðíèè | | |
Evgeny Kolchugin Ìîñêîâñêàÿ îáë. Ñîîáùåíèé: 1009 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2013 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1298 | Íàâåðõ ##
14 àïðåëÿ 2017 10:02 valcha íàïèñàë: [q] Âñå ïîìíÿò èñòîðèþ Àíäæåëèíû Äæîëè, óäàëèâøåé ìîëî÷íûå æåëåçû, ÷òîáû óìåíüøèòü ðèñê ðàçâèòèÿ ðàêà ãðóäè. Âåðîÿòíîñòü å¸ çàáîëåâàíèÿ ðàêîì ìîëî÷íîé æåëåçû îöåíèâàëàñü â 86%.[/q]
Ìåäèöèíà - íàóêà íå òî÷íàÿ. Ãàðàíòèé íå äà¸ò è ãîíîðàðîâ íå âîçâðàùàåò (ñ) Ëè÷íàÿ æèçíü Àíäæåëèíû ìåíÿ íå èíòåðåñóåò, íî áåñïîêîèò, ÷òî äóðíîé ïðèìåð ìîæåò îêàçàòüñÿ çàðàçèòåëüíûì. FDA ýòî ïðåêðàñíî ïîíèìàåò. Ïîýòîìó îíè è çàïðåòèëè 23andMe çàíèìàòüñÿ ìåäèöèíñêèì ïðîãíîçèðîâàíèåì. --- https://kolchugin-story.ru
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Êîëü÷óãèíû è Äóäíèêîâû: ñ. Òåðíîâêà Ïåíçåíñêîãî ó. Ïåíçåíñêîé ãóá.
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