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16 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 12:37 24 îêòÿáðÿ 2011 16:44 Íåñêîëüêî êíèã ïî òåìå:
Áàëàíîâñêèå. Ðóññêèé ãåíîôîíä íà Ðóññêîé ðàâíèíå, 2007 narod.ru/disk/25297119001/%D0%91%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5.%20%D0%A0%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9%20%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%84%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B4%20%D0%BD%D0%B0%20%D0%A0%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9%20%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B5%20%202007.djvu.html
Âîñòî÷íûå ñëàâÿíå. Àíòðîïîëîãèÿ è ýòíè÷åñêàÿ èñòîðèÿ, 2002 narod.ru/disk/25297151001/%D0%92%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%87%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B5%20%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D1%8F%D0%BD%D0%B5.%20%D0%90%D0%BD%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%B8%D1%8F%20%D0%B8%20%D1%8D%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F%20%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%8F%20%202002.djvu.html
Êîðî÷êèí. Ãåíîì, êëîíèðîâàíèå, ïðîèñõîæäåíèå ÷åëîâåêà, 2004 narod.ru/disk/25297211001/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%87%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD.%20%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BC%2C%20%D0%BA%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5%2C%20%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%85%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5%20%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B0%20%202004.djvu.html
Îïïåíãåéìåð. Èçãíàíèå èç Ýäåìà, 2004 narod.ru/disk/25297336001/%D0%9E%D0%BF%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%80.%20%D0%98%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5%20%D0%B8%D0%B7%20%D0%AD%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B0%20%202004.djvu.html
Ñàéêñ. Ðàñøèôðîâàííûé êîä ëåäîâîãî ÷åëîâåêà. Îò êîãî ìû ïðîèçîøëè, èëè ñåìü äî÷åðåé Åâû, 2005 narod.ru/disk/25297257001/%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BA%D1%81.%20%D0%A0%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%88%D0%B8%D1%84%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9%20%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B4%20%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE%20%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B0.%20%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%BC%D1%8C%20%D0%B4%D0%BE%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B9%20%D0%95%D0%B2%D1%8B%20%202005.epub.html
Áóäó ðàä, åñëè êòî-íèáóäü ÷òî-òî äîáàâèò, õîòÿ áû â âèäå íàçâàíèé êíèã. À òàêæå ñêàæåò, ïðèãîäèëîñü ëè, áûëî èíòåðåñíî èëè íåò. --- Ñîðî÷èíñê, Áóçóëóê, Åëõîâêà Ñàìàðñêèé óåçä, Ñèçåíîâî ×åðíñêèé óåçä, Ñàìîéëîâêà Áàëàøîâñêèé óåçä | | |
mag55 Ñîîáùåíèé: 319 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 304 | Íàâåðõ ##
17 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 20:27 | | |
| kashub Ñîîáùåíèé: 220 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 104
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19 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 12:36 Î÷åíü îñòîðîæíî ñî ñòàòüÿìè Êëåñîâà! --- ÑÖÑ Âåñüåãîíñêîãî (Ïíåâî, Õàáîöêîå, Äåëåäèíî, ×àìåðîâî), Áåæåöêîãî ( Õîíååâî, Ëþáîäèöû), Òâåðñêîãî (Îòðîêîâè÷è), Íîâîòîðîæñêîãî ( Òàëîæíÿ, Èëüèíñêîå ÷òî ïîä Âûøêîâîì), Ñòàðèöêîãî(Õîëìåö)
Îäíîäâîðöû Êóðñêîãî óåçäà(Âîðîáüåâêà, Ñåìåíîâêà) | | |
Genesis Åêàòåðèíáóðã Ñîîáùåíèé: 657 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2006 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 608 | Íàâåðõ ##
19 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 17:50 À ïî÷åìó îñòîðîæíî? Íàïèñàíî äîñòàòî÷íî ïîïóëÿðíî è äîõîä÷èâî, õîòÿ ñ íàó÷íîé òî÷êè çðåíèÿ îöåíèòü íå ìîãó, ïîòîìó êàê ïðîôàí è äèëåòàíò, òîëüêî íà÷èíàþ âíèêàòü â ýòó òåìó --- Ñîðî÷èíñê, Áóçóëóê, Åëõîâêà Ñàìàðñêèé óåçä, Ñèçåíîâî ×åðíñêèé óåçä, Ñàìîéëîâêà Áàëàøîâñêèé óåçä | | |
| kbg_dnepr Äíèïðî (áûâø. Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê) Ñîîáùåíèé: 7047 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 4362
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19 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 18:01 20 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 16:47 Òàê Êë¸ñîâ - ýòî persona non grata â êðóãàõ ïðèëè÷íûõ ãåíåòèêîâ (Ìîëãåí îáðàçîâàí èìåííî â ðåçóëüòàòå Áîëüøîãî Ðàñêîëà) --- Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
Êëûøêèí Âëàñåíêî Ñàêóíîâ Êó÷åðÿâåíêî (Ãëóõîâ)
Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.) | | |
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19 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 18:48 20 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 18:42 Ïðîñìîòðåë è Ìîëãåí, è Ðîäñòâî. Äîñòàòî÷íî íåïðèÿòíî ÷èòàòü ýòó ïåðåïàëêó, è íåò æåëàíèÿ âíèêàòü â å¸ ïðåäûñòîðèþ. Äðóãèõ çàáîò ïîëíî. Ðàíåå ïîëó÷èë ðåçóëüòàòû òåñòà îò Ãåíòèñ. Ñåé÷àñ çàêàçàë â FTDNA: Family Finder+mtFullSequence è Y-DNA111. Íàäåþñü, ê Íîâîìó ãîäó ðåçóëüòàòû áóäóò. Ïîñëå ýòîãî ñìîãó ãîâîðèòü î ÷¸ì-òî êîíêðåòíîì, à ïîêà ïðîäîëæó ÷èòàòü íàó÷íî-ïîïóëÿðíóþ ëèòåðàòóðó --- Ñîðî÷èíñê, Áóçóëóê, Åëõîâêà Ñàìàðñêèé óåçä, Ñèçåíîâî ×åðíñêèé óåçä, Ñàìîéëîâêà Áàëàøîâñêèé óåçä | | |
| kbg_dnepr Äíèïðî (áûâø. Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê) Ñîîáùåíèé: 7047 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 4362
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19 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 18:51 Genesis íàïèñàë: [q] ïðîäîëæó ÷èòàòü íàó÷íî-ïîïóëÿðíóþ ëèòåðàòóðó[/q]
Äåëèòåñü ðåçóëüòàòàìè, à òî ó ìåíÿ ñàìîé ðóêè íå äîõîäÿò --- Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
Êëûøêèí Âëàñåíêî Ñàêóíîâ Êó÷åðÿâåíêî (Ãëóõîâ)
Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.) | | |
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19 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 19:11 Òàê ðåçóëüòàòîâ ñòîëüêî, ÷òî ãëàçà ðàçáåãàþòñÿ è ðóêè ÷åøóòñÿ.... òî õî÷åòñÿ óäàðèòü ñåáÿ â ëîá çà ãëóïîñòü è òóïîñòü, à òî êîìó-íèáóäü èç àâòîðîâ ñòàòåé â ãëàç çà "íàó÷íîñòü"  Ëåã÷å ãîâîðèòü î ÷¸ì-òî êîíêðåòíîì, à äëÿ ìåíÿ êîíêðåòíîå âîçíèêíåò òîëüêî ïîñëå èòîãîâ òåñòà FTDNA. Ïîêà òîëüêî 17 ìàðê¸ðîâ Ãåíòèñà: R1a1a, è Ìò-ãàïëîãðóïïà H. --- Ñîðî÷èíñê, Áóçóëóê, Åëõîâêà Ñàìàðñêèé óåçä, Ñèçåíîâî ×åðíñêèé óåçä, Ñàìîéëîâêà Áàëàøîâñêèé óåçä | | |
| kashub Ñîîáùåíèé: 220 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 104
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20 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 9:19 21 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 9:53 Genesis íàïèñàë: [q] À ïî÷åìó îñòîðîæíî? Íàïèñàíî äîñòàòî÷íî ïîïóëÿðíî è äîõîä÷èâî, õîòÿ ñ íàó÷íîé òî÷êè çðåíèÿ îöåíèòü íå ìîãó, [/q]
Íó Áóøêîâ ïðèìåðíî òàê æå ëåãêî è äîõîä÷èâî ïèøåò íà èñòîðè÷åñêèå òåìû. Ýòî íå ìåøàåò åìó áûòü ôðèêîì. Íå õî÷åòñÿ âíèêàòü â äåòàëè, âñå æå íå ïðîôèëüíûé ôîðóì, íî â ñëó÷àå ñ Êëåñîâûì ãëàâíîå ÷åòêî ïîíÿòü ãäå çàêàí÷èâàåòñÿ âñòóïèòåëüíàÿ ïðîñâåòèòåëüñêàÿ ÷àñòü(ñîãëàñåí ñ âàìè, íàïèñàííàÿ äîñòàòî÷íî äîõîä÷èâî è èíòåðåñíî) è íà÷èíàåòñÿ ñîáñòâåííî ôðè÷åñòâî. --- ÑÖÑ Âåñüåãîíñêîãî (Ïíåâî, Õàáîöêîå, Äåëåäèíî, ×àìåðîâî), Áåæåöêîãî ( Õîíååâî, Ëþáîäèöû), Òâåðñêîãî (Îòðîêîâè÷è), Íîâîòîðîæñêîãî ( Òàëîæíÿ, Èëüèíñêîå ÷òî ïîä Âûøêîâîì), Ñòàðèöêîãî(Õîëìåö)
Îäíîäâîðöû Êóðñêîãî óåçäà(Âîðîáüåâêà, Ñåìåíîâêà) | | |
LeslaÌîäåðàòîð ðàçäåëà R1a-VK05  Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Ñîîáùåíèé: 2544 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2006 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 2339 | Íàâåðõ ##
20 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 16:41 20 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2011 18:50 Íå áóäåì íà ÂÃÄ î ïîñòîðîííèõ ñêëîêàõ. --- Ìîé êàíàë â Òåëåãðàììå, ãäå ðàññêàçûâàþ î ïðèìåíåíèè ìåòîäîâ ÄÍÊ-òåñòèðîâàíèÿ â ãåíåàëîãèè.
Èùó æèòåëåé è ïîòîìêîâ æèòåëåé ää. Ðó÷üåâàÿ Äåäîâè÷åñêîãî è Äóáêè Áåæàíèöêîãî ðàéîíîâ Ïñêîâñêîé îáë. | | |
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