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Åëåíà Àëåêñàíäðîâíà Ñîîáùåíèé: 1649 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1164 | Íàâåðõ ##
9 àâãóñòà 2018 9:55 12 àâãóñòà 2018 10:35 ß ïèñàëà, î òîì, ÷òî 4-þðîäíûå íå äàëüøå.
Ìîé ñûí ñ òðîþðîäíûìè äåäà - ÿâëÿåòñÿ 4-þðîäíûì.
Èõ äâîå. Íàïèñàëè ðàçíûé ïðîìåæóòîê, ò.ê. ðàçíûå îáùèå ñàíòèìîðãàíû.
3rd Cousin - 5th Cousin 77ñÌ îáùèõ è 16ñÌ ñàìûé äëèííûé áëîê
2nd Cousin - 4th Cousin 53ñÌ îáùèõ è 18ñÌ ñàìûé äëèííûé áëîê
Íî îáà ïîïàäàþò â äàííûé ïðîìåæóòîê!
Íàîáîðîò.
Ó ìåíÿ åãî ïÿòèþðîäíàÿ ( 4-þðîäíàÿ ñåñòðà áàáóøêè) â FTDNA âîîáùå íå ïîêàçàíà.
Òàêàÿ ëîòûðåÿ. Îêàçàëîñü ìåíüøå îáùèõ ñåãìåíòîâ.
Íî òóò òî÷íî îïðåäåëèë GEDmatch.com - 13ñÌ = 5-þðîäíûì.
Ñîãëàñíà, áûâàþò ñîñòàâíûå ñåãìåíòû îò ðàçíûõ îáùèõ ïðåäêîâ, ïðèáëèæàþùèå íàøå ðîäñòâî ( ïðîãðàììà ýòè òîíêîñòè ïîêà íå ïîíèìàåò, ñ÷èòàåò âñ¸)
Íî, åñëè âñåõ ñêîïîì ñ÷èòàòü - áîëåå äàëüíèìè, ïðîïóñòèòå íàñòîÿùèõ.
Âîò íà ýòî ÿ õî÷ó îáðàòèòü âàøå âíèìàíèå.
È âîò èìåííî òàêèå, ñ÷èòàþùèå âñåõ - ñîñòàâíûìè è ñëèøêîì äàëüíèìè è íå îòâå÷àþò íà ïèñüìà è î÷åíü îãîð÷àþò,
íå æåëàíèåì óçíàâàòü ïî êîì â ðîäñòâå. ---
U5a1d2a.ô-èè: Êîðîòêåâè÷, Ìèõàëåíêî,Ìèíåíêî, Êîøëà÷åâ, Õîëîäîê, Áåëÿíñêèé (Êóáàíü); Ïðàâèêîâ (Ìîñêâà è Ðÿçàíü - Ñïàññêèé ìåùàíèí); Äðîáûøåâñêèé (Øåïîòîâè÷è, ×å÷åðñê); Áåëàðóñü: Êàðòóí, Àíöóê, Åíæèåâñêèé, Åíäðæèåâñêèé, Ñóêà÷, Ìåëåøêåâè÷, Ëîìàêî, Áîéêà÷åâ, Êóð÷èöêèé, Ùóðà, Ãàëÿêåâè÷. | | |
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11 àâãóñòà 2018 1:08 11 àâãóñòà 2018 1:11 Åëåíà Àëåêñàíäðîâíà íàïèñàë: [q] È âîò èìåííî òàêèå, ñ÷èòàþùèå âñåõ - ñîñòàâíûìè è ñëèøêîì äàëüíèìè è íå îòâå÷àþò íà ïèñüìà è î÷åíü îãîð÷àþò,
íå æåëàíèåì óçíàâàòü ïî êîì â ðîäñòâå. [/q]
Ìîåìó ñàìîìó áëèæàéøåìó, ÷òî íåäàâíî ïîÿâèëñÿ íà ftdna, äîñòàòî÷íî ïðîñòî òêíóòü ïàëüöåì â ìîå äðåâî è ñêàçàòü: âîò ýòîò, ò.ê. âñå îòâåòâëåíèÿ ñîñòàâëåíû äî 1916, ÷àñòè÷íî äî 1942 (åñëè ïîñëåäíèå óñïåëè îñòàâèòü ïîòîìñòâî, êîòîðîå âûæèëî â âîéíó). Íî íåò æå - ìîë÷èò. | | |
ÈðèíàñÓ÷àñòíèê  Ñîîáùåíèé: 83 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 234 | Íàâåðõ ##
13 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2018 17:39 13 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2018 17:59  MyHeritage òåïåðü ìîæíî çàãðóæàòü äàííûå èç ×èï V5 23andMe (äëÿ òåõ, êòî äåëàë òåñò íà 23ýíäìè íà÷èíàÿ ñ àâãóñòà 2017)
Previously MyHeritage did not support the upload of tests based on the chip called GSA (Global Screening Array), that is used by 23andMe (V5), and by Living DNA. Recent improvements to our DNA algorithms allow us to support DNA data processed on GSA chips, and so we’re happy to update you that MyHeritage now supports 23andMe V5 and Living DNA data uploads, in addition to data uploads from all major DNA testing services, including Ancestry, 23andMe (up to V5) and Family Tree DNA (Family Finder). ---
Èùó ñâåäåíèÿ î Øåâ÷åíêî, Êðåìåí÷óãñêèé óåçä->Àìóðñêàÿ îáë; Ñàâ÷åíêî, Ïîëòàâñêàÿ ãóá; Ñàâ÷åíêî, Ïè÷óãèí, Êóñòîâ, Ïîòàïîâ, Ðîãà÷åâ Ìàðèèíñêèé óåçä, Òîìñêîé ãóá->Óëü÷ñêèé ð-í, Õàáàðîâñêîãî êðàÿ; Ãóëåâè÷, Øêóðîïàöêèå, Ìåòåëüñêèå èç Ãîìåëüñêîãî óåçäà, Ìî | | |
ÐîìàíÑÑòàíè÷íûé ãîëîâà  Áåëãîðîäñêàÿ îáëàñòü Ñîîáùåíèé: 4165 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2006 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 30969 | Íàâåðõ ##
15 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2018 17:02 Çäðàâñòâóéòå, óâàæàåìûå ó÷àñòíèêè ôîðóìà!
 ñâÿçè ñ íå îïëàòîé çàêàçàííûõ òåñòîâûõ íàáîðîâ åñòü íà ðóêàõ â Ðîññèè äâà òåñòîâûõ íàáîðà íà ïðîäàæó:
Y37 ïî öåíå 169 USD+12USD=181USD, ïëþñ ïåðåñûëêà ïî Ðîññèè. Îïëàòà â ðóáëÿõ íà äåíü ïîêóïêè ïî êóðñó äëÿ êàðò Ñáåðáàíêà.
Y12+FF ïî öåíå 59 USD+ 79 USD+12USD=150 USD, ïëþñ ïåðåñûëêà ïî Ðîññèè. Îïëàòà â ðóáëÿõ íà äåíü ïîêóïêè ïî êóðñó äëÿ êàðò Ñáåðáàíêà.
Êîãî çàèíòåðåñîâàëî ïðåäëîæåíèå, ïèøèòå â Ëè÷íûå. Êîãî íå çàèíòåðåñîâàëî ïðåäëîæåíèå, ïîæàëóéñòà, ïðîõîäèòå ìèìî. ---
Èùó ôàìèëèè Ñàïåëèí, Öåïåëèí, Öàïåëèí, Íîâî÷åíêî, Íîâà÷åíêî, Áåðåæíîé, Ñòîëÿðîâ (Áåëãîðîäñêàÿ îáë.), Áèðþêîâ, Òåïëÿêîâ, (ñ. Þðñîâî Ïåíçåíñêîé îáë.), Ñåëåçíåâ(ã.Ñàìàðà). | | |
mowgliamateur  Tallinn Ñîîáùåíèé: 317 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2006 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 149 | Íàâåðõ ##
19 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2018 14:37 ---
Áà÷èíñêèé/Áåëåöêèé/Âîéöåõîâñêèé/Çàðåìáî/Çåëèíñêè/Èãíàòîâè÷/Êîâàëåâñêèõ/Ëåâêîâè÷/Îáóõîâè÷/Ïåòêåâè÷/Ïëàâèíñêèé/Ñòàòêåâè÷/Øâåä/Þðêåâè÷/ ßëòóõîâñêè/ Baczynski/Beleçki/Jurkiewicz/Kowalewskih/Lewkowicz/Obuchowicz/Pietkiewicz | | |
Òàìïèî«Ñïàñèáî» è ëàéêè íå íàäî. Ïðîñòî íàæìèòå [+]  Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Ñîîáùåíèé: 1803 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2006 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1186 | Íàâåðõ ##
19 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2018 14:44 mowgli íàïèñàë: [q] [/q]
Ccûëêà áèòàÿ, âîò è íå íàéäåíî. --- Íîâã. îáë, Ìàëîâèøåðñêèé ð-í, ä. Ïîääóáüå, Ãîðíåöêîå, Ñåëèùè — ÅÂÏËÎÂÛ ÈÂÀÍÎÂÛ
Êèðîâñê. îáë, Ëóçñêèé ð-í, ä. Ïÿòèíñêàÿ — ÈÃÓÌÍÎÂÛ
Òàìá. îáë, Ãàâðèëîâñêèé ð-í — ÒÅШØÊÈÍÛ ÂÎË×ÊÎÂÛ
Áåëîðóññèÿ: Áîáðóéñê, Íîâîãðóäîê — ÏÎÒÀÏÎÂÈ×È ÎÑÈÏÎÂÈ×È
☦ Ôèííû ÑÏá ☦ | | |
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19 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2018 16:15 Clavis
"Ïîäðîáíåå î ìàðêåðå Tat-C ìîæíî ïðî÷èòàòü è îáñóäèòü çäåñü (öåíòðàëüíîàçèàòñêèé ôîðóì)" -
Not Found, è òóò ÿ îïîçäàëà, íà äâîðå 2018 ã ---
Áà÷èíñêèé/Áåëåöêèé/Âîéöåõîâñêèé/Çàðåìáî/Çåëèíñêè/Èãíàòîâè÷/Êîâàëåâñêèõ/Ëåâêîâè÷/Îáóõîâè÷/Ïåòêåâè÷/Ïëàâèíñêèé/Ñòàòêåâè÷/Øâåä/Þðêåâè÷/ ßëòóõîâñêè/ Baczynski/Beleçki/Jurkiewicz/Kowalewskih/Lewkowicz/Obuchowicz/Pietkiewicz | | |
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19 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2018 16:48 retret íàïèñàë: [q] âîò íåáîëüøàÿ ñòàòüÿ î íàøåé ëàáîðàòîðèè
http://www.kommersant.ru/k-vla...854-16.htm[/q]
ìîæíî ïîïðîñèòü äåéñòâóþùóþ ññûëêó èëè ïðèâåñòè ñòàòüþ çäåñü ïîëíîñòüþ? î÷åíü õî÷åòñÿ ïî÷èòàòü. Ïûòàþñü íàâåðñòàòü óïóùåííîå ñ 2004 ã ---
Áà÷èíñêèé/Áåëåöêèé/Âîéöåõîâñêèé/Çàðåìáî/Çåëèíñêè/Èãíàòîâè÷/Êîâàëåâñêèõ/Ëåâêîâè÷/Îáóõîâè÷/Ïåòêåâè÷/Ïëàâèíñêèé/Ñòàòêåâè÷/Øâåä/Þðêåâè÷/ ßëòóõîâñêè/ Baczynski/Beleçki/Jurkiewicz/Kowalewskih/Lewkowicz/Obuchowicz/Pietkiewicz | | |
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19 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2018 19:09 GontarGontar íàïèñàë: [q] [/q]
Gontar íàïèñàë: [q] Îòíîñèòåëüíî, êòî è êîãî òîïòàë, âû âåðîÿòíî, î÷åíü õîðîøåãî ìíåíèÿ î íåìåöêèõ áàðîíàõ. ß âîò çíàþ íåñêîëüêèõ ïîòîìêîâ, íî èõ íåìíîãî, ïðèíèìàÿ âî âíèìàíèå, ÷òî ìíîãèå ïðèáàëòèéñêèå íåìöû óåõàëè ïåðåä Âòîðîé Ìèðîâîé âîéíîé â Ãåðìàíèþ. Òàê ÷òî, íå ìîãóò îíè ñèëüíî âëèÿòü íà ýñòîíñêèé ãåíîôîíä[/q]
Íå õî÷åòñÿ âñòóïàòü â ñïîð, íî âû ïèøèòå óæå î ãîðàçäî ïîçäíåì âðåìåíè, à Nicola óïîìèíàåò âðåìåíà, êîãäà Ýñòîíèåé âëàäåëè ðûöàðè Ëèâîíñêîãî îðäåíà, è äåéñòâèòåëüíî ñóùåñòâîâàëî ýòî ïðàâî, è íå ðàç ýñòû ïîäíèìàëè âîññòàíèå ïðîòèâ âëàäû÷åñòâà íåìöåâ, çà ÷òî ïðàêòè÷åñêè âñå ìóæñêîå íàñåëåíèå áûëî óíè÷òîæåíî îò ìàëà äî âåëèêà. È ýòî èñòîðè÷åñêèé ôàêò, êîòîðûé íå óïîìèíàåòñÿ â ñîâðåìåííûõ øêîëüíûõ ó÷åáíèêàõ. Íó âîò òóò òîæå ìîæíî êîå-÷òî ïî÷èòàòü https://jurialhaz.livejournal.com/190197.html ---
Áà÷èíñêèé/Áåëåöêèé/Âîéöåõîâñêèé/Çàðåìáî/Çåëèíñêè/Èãíàòîâè÷/Êîâàëåâñêèõ/Ëåâêîâè÷/Îáóõîâè÷/Ïåòêåâè÷/Ïëàâèíñêèé/Ñòàòêåâè÷/Øâåä/Þðêåâè÷/ ßëòóõîâñêè/ Baczynski/Beleçki/Jurkiewicz/Kowalewskih/Lewkowicz/Obuchowicz/Pietkiewicz | | |
Òàìïèî«Ñïàñèáî» è ëàéêè íå íàäî. Ïðîñòî íàæìèòå [+] Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã Ñîîáùåíèé: 1803 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2006 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1186 | Íàâåðõ ##
20 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2018 7:34 mowgli íàïèñàë: [q] çà ÷òî ïðàêòè÷åñêè âñå ìóæñêîå íàñåëåíèå áûëî óíè÷òîæåíî îò ìàëà äî âåëèêà[/q]
À îòêóäà âçÿëèñü ìóæñêèå ïðåäêè ñóùåñòâóþùåãî íàñåëåíèÿ? Âû õîòèòå ñêàçàòü, ÷òî ñîâðåìåííûå ýñòîíöû ïî îòöîâñêèì ëèíèÿì íå èìåþò îòíîøåíèÿ ê ýñòàì? --- Íîâã. îáë, Ìàëîâèøåðñêèé ð-í, ä. Ïîääóáüå, Ãîðíåöêîå, Ñåëèùè — ÅÂÏËÎÂÛ ÈÂÀÍÎÂÛ
Êèðîâñê. îáë, Ëóçñêèé ð-í, ä. Ïÿòèíñêàÿ — ÈÃÓÌÍÎÂÛ
Òàìá. îáë, Ãàâðèëîâñêèé ð-í — ÒÅШØÊÈÍÛ ÂÎË×ÊÎÂÛ
Áåëîðóññèÿ: Áîáðóéñê, Íîâîãðóäîê — ÏÎÒÀÏÎÂÈ×È ÎÑÈÏÎÂÈ×È
☦ Ôèííû ÑÏá ☦ | | |
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