Eugeniusz Groński

Hello!
Birth record №51
12.10.1902 (born)/16.10.1902 (baptized)
Name: Maria
Parents: nobleman (dvoryanin) Alexander Stanislavovich Gronsky (Groński) is of the Roman Catholic faith and his legal wife Daria Ivanova (Avinova? it is her patronic name, not a surname) of the Orthodox faith.
Godparents: nobleman (dvoryanin) Evgeny Stanislavov Gronsky (Groński) and the wife of an honorary citizen Nadezhda Anufrieva Ermolaeva
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It could be your Eugeniusz Groński and his brother Alexander if so, then these two could be their repressed brothers - Joseph link and Felix link

Also birth record №87 Godparents: ... and railway telegraph operator Sabina Stanislavova Gronskaya link

"Leopold was born in Shumikha (Kurgan Oblast) on 1 Feb 1916" do yo have this metric record?

Метрика о рождении Станислава 05.01.1911, Римско-католическая церковь г. Томска
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[Родители] Помощника начальника станции Мариинск [Сибирской железной дороги] Евгения Станиславовича и Марии Леопольдовны [урождённой] Дроздовской Гронских [законных супругов] сын, родившийся 5 января сего года на [станции] Мариинск.
Восприемниками были дворянин Фаддей Леопольдович Дроздовский с Сабиною Станиславовной Гронскою.

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в этом же костёле есть ещё запись о возможных родственниках
https://www.familysearch.org/a...cc=4450389
15.12.1913, София
[Родители] Коллежского регистратора Александра и Мариянны [урождённой] Крензель Гронских [законных супругов] дочь, родившаяся 15 декабря 1913 года на приисках центральн. рудн.(?) Томской губернии Мариинского уезда.
Восприемниками были Роман Карклин(?) и Ядвига Гронская.

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в этом же костёле есть также упоминание крестьян Гронских
https://www.familysearch.org/a...cc=4450389
Новоалександровской волости, посёлок Белостокский.

>> Ответ на сообщение пользователя maxmalk от 16 декабря 2023 6:36

This is fantastic. Today I found a document from a Polish census from the 1920's. I learned that both Wladyslaw and Stanislaw were born in Mariinsk, the former on 2/February/1909, the latter on 5/January/1911. This fits with the Stanislaw you found, maxmalk, and confirms that Stanislaw (grandfather) must have been the father of Eugeniusz, who was the father of Stanislaw born in 1911.

Sofia appears to be the daughter of the Alexander siadeblanc found. I think I can safely conclude that the brothers Alexander and Eugeniusz lived in Mariinsk from at least 1908 to sometime before 1916, when they were in Shumikha. At some point after (probably around the Revolution), they moved back west to settle in the area around Vilnius.

What is a Коллежск регистратор? It translates as a college registrar. Is that correct, someone who worked in the registration of students at a college (I presume high school)?

I do not think the Gronski's in Белосток are my family. Maybe they are, but not close relatives. As far as I know they were not peasants, but from dvoryanin class and were not involved in agriculture.

Thank you and I welcome anything else you may find.

maxmalk написал:

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Collegiate registrar was a lowest rank in Russian imperial bureaucracy (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_Ranks ).

"Honorary citizens" was a small strata between nobles and burghers, it consists of childern of non-hereditary nobles, children of some clergymen and some others. Also it can be achieved through best places at ranks for some univercities and college students, through awarding of some imperial orders, or one can be elevated by city goverment's decision, e.t.c.

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Thank you. In fact, in Zofia's birth record from 1913, Alexander is college secretary, presumably having been promoted based on the Wiki page you sent.

One more question, the dates in the birth records, e.g. Stanislaw's are in the Julian calendar?