How can I find traces of my great uncle Julius Zabransky?
My great uncle Julius Zabransky lived in Leningrad for a few years in 1934-1936. He arrived as a political refugee from Austria, later to be arrested and deported. I am looking for evidence of his stay and what I believe was his marriage and newborn child
| Helen V
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12 ôåâðàëÿ 2022 23:29 abogus íàïèñàë: [q] ÷òî íà êàêîì-òî ýòàïå âîçðàñò ìîãëè îöåíèòü ïðèìåðíî.[/q]
Íàïðèìåð, â êîíêðåòíûé äåòäîì áðàëè òîëüêî ìàëåíüêèõ, à òåõ êòî ïîñòàðøå - îòïðàâëÿëè åùå êóäà-òî. ---
Ïëàí íà ýòó íåäåëþ: ïí - ÖÈÀÌ/ÃÀÐÔ, âò ÐÃÀÝ/ÖÈÀÌ, ñð ÐÃÂÈÀ/ÃÀÐÔ | | Ëàéê (1) |
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13 ôåâðàëÿ 2022 0:28 Helen V íàïèñàë: [q]
abogus íàïèñàë:
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÷òî íà êàêîì-òî ýòàïå âîçðàñò ìîãëè îöåíèòü ïðèìåðíî.
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Íàïðèìåð, â êîíêðåòíûé äåòäîì áðàëè òîëüêî ìàëåíüêèõ, à òåõ êòî ïîñòàðøå - îòïðàâëÿëè åùå êóäà-òî.
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Ìîé îòåö 1935 ãîäà ðîæäåíèÿ ïîïàë â Ãîðüêîâñêóþ îáëàñòü, à åãî ñåñòðà 1939 ñ äðóãèì äåòñêèì äîìîì â ×óâàøèþ. Ìîé îòåö óìåð, òàê è íå óçíàâ, ÷òî åãî ñåñòðà îñòàëàñü æèâà è áûëà ýâàêóèðîâàíà. | | Ëàéê (2) |
| herrtun Íîâè÷îê
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22 ôåâðàëÿ 2022 17:08 nemo_65 íàïèñàë: [q] Âñå-òàêè ìàëîâåðîÿòíî, ÷òîáû áûëî äâà ïîëíûõ òåçêè ñ òàêèìè ðåäêèìè äàííûìè. Ñêîðåå, â äîêóìåíòàõ ãîä ðîæäåíèÿ ãäå-òî óïîìÿíóò íåòî÷íî. [/q]
I believe this must be the same person, despite differing years of birth. Also because on the registration card, Antonina Busch is quoted as the child's aunt. According to other information (as described earlier), his mother is in Austrian sources named as Nina Bush. | | |
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22 ôåâðàëÿ 2022 17:11 >> Îòâåò íà ñîîáùåíèå ïîëüçîâàòåëÿ Helen V îò 12 ôåâðàëÿ 2022 3:26 Thank you! I will definately look into this, and have sent a request to the archive. Now playing the waiting game for several requests | | Ëàéê (1) |
| herrtun Íîâè÷îê
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25 ôåâðàëÿ 2022 22:55 >> Îòâåò íà ñîîáùåíèå ïîëüçîâàòåëÿ Helen V îò 12 ôåâðàëÿ 2022 3:26 Àðõèâ â Íåâèííîìûññêå äàë ìíå áûñòðûé îòâåò, íî áåçóñïåøíî. Ãîâîðÿò, ÷òî äîêóìåíòû, â êîòîðûõ óïîìèíàåòñÿ Çàáðàíñêîãî Þëèóñà Þëèóñîâè÷à, îñâîáîæäåíû îò îãëàñêè â ñèëó ñåêðåòíîñòè. Åñòü ëè ñïîñîáû ïîèñêà ïîãèáøèõ â Íåâèííîìûññêå áåç êàêèõ-ëèáî îãðàíè÷åíèé íà ïîèñê? Ðàç îí óïîìèíàåòñÿ â ýòîì àðõèâå, íåëüçÿ ëè óçíàòü ÷òî-íèáóäü î ñìåðòè â àðõèâå èëè â íåêðîëîãå? | | |
| Helen V
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25 ôåâðàëÿ 2022 23:06 herrtun íàïèñàë: [q] Åñòü ëè ñïîñîáû ïîèñêà ïîãèáøèõ â Íåâèííîìûññêå áåç êàêèõ-ëèáî îãðàíè÷åíèé íà ïîèñê?[/q]
Íàñêîëüêî ÿ ïîíÿëà, ýòî íå äåëà ïîãèáøèõ, à íåâîñòðåáîâàííûå òðóäîâûå êíèæêè. Âðîäå êàê ÷åëîâåê óâîëèëñÿ, à òðóäîâóþ êíèæêó íå çàáðàë. Ïîñêîëüêó ýòîìó äåëó ìåíüøå 75 ëåò, ïîëó÷èòü èç íåãî ñâåäåíèÿ áåç äîêóìåíòîâ î ðîäñòâå áóäåò çàòðóäíèòåëüíî. Íî ó âàñ âåäü åñòü äîêóìåíòû î ðîäñòâå, âåðíî? ---
Ïëàí íà ýòó íåäåëþ: ïí - ÖÈÀÌ/ÃÀÐÔ, âò ÐÃÀÝ/ÖÈÀÌ, ñð ÐÃÂÈÀ/ÃÀÐÔ | | |
| nemo_65
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26 ôåâðàëÿ 2022 1:25 26 ôåâðàëÿ 2022 18:58 herrtun íàïèñàë: [q] >> Îòâåò íà ñîîáùåíèå ïîëüçîâàòåëÿ Helen V îò 12 ôåâðàëÿ 2022 3:26
Àðõèâ â Íåâèííîìûññêå äàë ìíå áûñòðûé îòâåò, íî áåçóñïåøíî. Ãîâîðÿò, ÷òî äîêóìåíòû, â êîòîðûõ óïîìèíàåòñÿ Çàáðàíñêîãî Þëèóñà Þëèóñîâè÷à, îñâîáîæäåíû îò îãëàñêè â ñèëó ñåêðåòíîñòè.
Åñòü ëè ñïîñîáû ïîèñêà ïîãèáøèõ â Íåâèííîìûññêå áåç êàêèõ-ëèáî îãðàíè÷åíèé íà ïîèñê? Ðàç îí óïîìèíàåòñÿ â ýòîì àðõèâå, íåëüçÿ ëè óçíàòü ÷òî-íèáóäü î ñìåðòè â àðõèâå èëè â íåêðîëîãå?[/q]
Can you please provide the Russian text of the letter you received for more clarification. To me, it doesn't make sense that the documents are "classified" (back translated from what you posted). If they are listed in an online catalog, they can not be classified by definition. As was suggested, documents containing personal information that are less than 75 years old can only be accessed if you can prove that you are related by blood. | | |
| Helen V
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26 ôåâðàëÿ 2022 2:04 nemo_65 íàïèñàë: [q] If they are listed in an online catalog, they can not be classified by definition.[/q]
Ìíîãèå íåâûäàâàåìûå äîêóìåíòû åñòü â îíëàéí-êàòàëîãàõ è îïèñÿõ. ---
Ïëàí íà ýòó íåäåëþ: ïí - ÖÈÀÌ/ÃÀÐÔ, âò ÐÃÀÝ/ÖÈÀÌ, ñð ÐÃÂÈÀ/ÃÀÐÔ | | |
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26 ôåâðàëÿ 2022 2:42 Helen V íàïèñàë: [q]
nemo_65 íàïèñàë:
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If they are listed in an online catalog, they can not be classified by definition.
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Ìíîãèå íåâûäàâàåìûå äîêóìåíòû åñòü â îíëàéí-êàòàëîãàõ è îïèñÿõ.
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õîòåëîñü áû ïîñìîòðåòü êàê ýòî áûëî îáúÿñíåíî â îðèãèíàëüíîì òåêñòå | | |
| herrtun Íîâè÷îê
Steinkjer, Norway
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26 ôåâðàëÿ 2022 21:52 Helen V íàïèñàë: [q] Ïîñêîëüêó ýòîìó äåëó ìåíüøå 75 ëåò, ïîëó÷èòü èç íåãî ñâåäåíèÿ áåç äîêóìåíòîâ î ðîäñòâå áóäåò çàòðóäíèòåëüíî. Íî ó âàñ âåäü åñòü äîêóìåíòû î ðîäñòâå, âåðíî?[/q]
Ñåìåéíûå äîêóìåíòû ó ìåíÿ ïîêà íå ïîäòâåðæäåíû, òàê êàê åùå íå ïîëó÷åíû äîêóìåíòû î áðàêå è äîêóìåíòû î ðîæäåíèè èç Ëåíèíãðàäà. Ó ìåíÿ åñòü èíôîðìàöèÿ èç ïèñåì ìåæäó ðàçëè÷íûìè àâñòðèéñêèìè âëàñòÿìè, è îíè ÿâëÿþòñÿ ëèøü êîñâåííûì ñâèäåòåëüñòâîì ñåìüè. Âîò è ïðèõîäèòñÿ îõîòèòüñÿ çà òåì, ÷òî íå îãðàíè÷èâàåòñÿ ïðèâàòíîñòüþ. | | |
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