von Wiesen family in St Petersburgh
research of my maternal side relatives
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29 ìàðòà 2021 13:33 20 àïðåëÿ 2021 0:05 Hello I found this , just wonder if this is same family? Does anybody find more information of this person? [Students and graduates of HTI (biographical dictionary)] Von-Wiesen Voldemar Hermann Hermanovich (1880–?) A native of St. Petersburg, the son of a collegiate assessor. With a 1st degree diploma from Kharkiv University, he entered the Kharkiv Technological Institute in 1907. Ïðèâåò, ÿ íàøåë ýòî, ïðîñòî èíòåðåñíî, ýòî æå ñåìüÿ? Êòî-íèáóäü íàøåë áîëüøå èíôîðìàöèè îá ýòîì ÷åëîâåêå? Ôîí-Âèçåí Âîëüäåìàð Ãåðìàí Ãåðìàíîâè÷ (1880–?) Óðîæåíåö Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðãà, ñûí êîëëåæñêîãî àñåññîðà. Ñ äèïëîìîì 1-é ñòåïåíè Õàðüêîâñêîãî óíèâåðñèòåòà ïîñòóïèë â Õàðüêîâñêèé òåõíîëîãè÷åñêèé èíñòèòóò â 1907 ã. http://library.kpi.kharkov.ua/...0%B8%D1%87 --- - Èùó ëþáóþ èíôîðìàöèþ î ñåìüå ôîí Âèçåí â Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðãå, Ìîñêâå èëè Ðèãå. -
-Èùåì ðîäèòåëåé Õóëüäû Ìàðèè Ïðèíö 15.10.1893 Âûáîðã, öåðêîâíûå êíèãè èñ÷åçëè èëè óíè÷òîæåíû èç àðõèâîâ, ìîæåò â ðóññêèõ àðõèâàõ ÷òî-òî îñòàëîñü? | | |
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In RGVIA, a personal file of a doctor who graduated from the Military Medical Academy: RGVIA (Moscow) f.316 op.63 d.1017. Georg Fridrikhovich Wiesen
Doctor serving in the Caucasian Military District: RGVIA (Moscow) f.1304 op.8 d.491 Fon-Wiesen Karl
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Hello all, I got yesterday these documents from RGVIA , In RGVIA, a personal file of a doctor who graduated from the Military Medical Academy: RGVIA (Moscow) f.316 op.63 d.1017. Georg Fridrikhovich Wiesen , this is my relative, but there is some misconfusion The title of the Case says: “the personal file of a doctor who graduated from the Military Medical Academy”, but I do not see in the Case any mentions that Karl von Wiesen studied or graduated the Military Medical Academy?. I’m surprised why the Case of the civil doctor assistant ended up in the Historical Military Archive. I can only assume that there was confusion between the Academies of the arts and the military. ---------------- The other document Doctor serving in the Caucasian Military District: RGVIA (Moscow) f.1304 op.8 d.491 Fon-Wiesen Karl , is different person with same name as my relative. His date of birth is the 5th November 1878. He is married and has two daughters 7 and 9 years old (in 1913). https://amburger.ios-regensbur...amp;mode=1------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- gelene íàïèñàë: [q] Antti69
 ÐÃÂÈÀ ëè÷íîå äåëî âðà÷à, îêîí÷èâøåãî Âîåííî-ìåäèöèíñêóþ àêàäåìèþ: ÐÃÂÈÀ (Ìîñêâà) ô.316 îï.63 ä.1017. Âèçåí Ãåîðã Ôðèäðèõîâè÷
Âðà÷, ñëóæàùèé â Êàâêàçñêîì âîåííîì îêðóãå: ÐÃÂÈÀ (Ìîñêâà) ô.1304 îï.8 ä.491 Ôîí-Âèçåí Êàðë
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Âñåì ïðèâåò, ïîëó÷èë â÷åðà ýòè äîêóìåíòû îò ÐÃÂÈÀ,  ÐÃÂÈÀ ëè÷íîå äåëî âðà÷à, îêîí÷èâøåãî Âîåííî-ìåäèöèíñêóþ àêàäåìèþ: ÐÃÂÈÀ (Ìîñêâà) ô.316 îï.63 ä.1017. Ãåîðã Ôðèäðèõîâè÷ Âèçåí, ýòî ìîé ðîäñòâåííèê, íî åñòü çàáëóæäåíèå Íàçâàíèå äåëà ãëàñèò: «ëè÷íîå äåëî âðà÷à, îêîí÷èâøåãî Âîåííî-ìåäèöèíñêóþ àêàäåìèþ», íî ÿ íå âèæó â äåëå óïîìèíàíèÿ î òîì, ÷òî Êàðë ôîí Âèçåí ó÷èëñÿ èëè îêîí÷èë Âîåííî-ìåäèöèíñêóþ àêàäåìèþ ?. ß óäèâëåí, ïî÷åìó äåëî ôåëüäøåðà îêàçàëîñü â Âîåííî-èñòîðè÷åñêîì àðõèâå. Ìîãó òîëüêî ïðåäïîëîæèòü, ÷òî ïðîèçîøëà ïóòàíèöà ìåæäó Àêàäåìèÿìè èñêóññòâ è âîåííûìè. ---------------- Äðóãîé äîêóìåíò Âðà÷, ïðîõîäÿùèé ñëóæáó â Êàâêàçñêîì âîåííîì îêðóãå: ÐÃÂÈÀ (Ìîñêâà) ô.1304 îï.8 ä.491 Ôîí-Âèçåí Êàðë, ÷åëîâåê ñ òàêèì æå èìåíåì, ÷òî è ìîé ðîäñòâåííèê. Äàòà ðîæäåíèÿ - 5 íîÿáðÿ 1878 ãîäà. Æåíàò, èìååò äâóõ äî÷åðåé 7 è 9 ëåò (â 1913 ãîäó). https://amburger.ios-regensbur...amp;mode=1 --- - Èùó ëþáóþ èíôîðìàöèþ î ñåìüå ôîí Âèçåí â Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðãå, Ìîñêâå èëè Ðèãå. -
-Èùåì ðîäèòåëåé Õóëüäû Ìàðèè Ïðèíö 15.10.1893 Âûáîðã, öåðêîâíûå êíèãè èñ÷åçëè èëè óíè÷òîæåíû èç àðõèâîâ, ìîæåò â ðóññêèõ àðõèâàõ ÷òî-òî îñòàëîñü? | | |
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21 àïðåëÿ 2021 14:48 21 àïðåëÿ 2021 19:41 Hello again, got also solved this other Karl in RGVIA archive , he is also my relative È ñíîâà çäðàâñòâóéòå, òîæå ðåøèë ýòîò äðóãîé Êàðë â àðõèâå ÐÃÂÈÀ, îí òîæå ìîé ðîäñòâåííèê https://www.geni.com/people/Ka...4778274444"Ðîññèÿ, äóáëèêàòû Ëþòåðàíñêèõ ìåòðè÷åñêèõ êíèã, 1833-1885," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-67S9-XM5?cc=1469151&wc=M6VP-6WR%3A295801501%2C296754301%2C296938801%2C296882901 : 21 May 2014), St. Petersburg > St. Petersburg > St. Petersburg (St. Catharina I Church, German): St. Petersburg > 1879: Births, marriages, deaths ( 828-14/228) > image 30 of 40; Russland Historischen Staatsarchiv, St. Petersburg (Konsistorium Petersburg. Russian State Historical Archive), St. Petersburg. and here https://amburger.ios-regensbur...amp;mode=1now I need to find his wife and her two daughters, maybe there are living relatives , if those 2 daughters have childrens. Marriage around after 1895 and childrens born around 1904 and 1906. Should find these from St Catharine German Church books (St Petersburg)òåïåðü ìíå íóæíî íàéòè åãî æåíó è äâóõ åå äî÷åðåé, ìîæåò áûòü, åñòü æèâûå ðîäñòâåííèêè, åñëè ó ýòèõ äâóõ äî÷åðåé åñòü äåòè. Áðàê ïîñëå 1895 ãîäà è äåòè, ðîäèâøèåñÿ ïðèìåðíî â 1904 è 1906 ãîäàõ. Èõ ñëåäóåò íàéòè â êíèãàõ Íåìåöêîé öåðêâè Ñâÿòîé Êàòàðèíû (Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã). -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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21 àïðåëÿ 2021 19:54 ÖÃÈÀ ÑÏá. Ôîíä 556. Îïèñü 1. Äåëî 340 1911–áåç äàòû Ôîí Âèçåí À.Â. ÏÅÄÀÃÎÃÈ×ÅÑÊÈÅ ÊÓÐÑÛ ÏÐÈ ÏÅÒÐÎÃÐÀÄÑÊÎÌ ÔÐÅÁÅËÅÂÑÊÎÌ ÎÁÙÅÑÒÂÅ ÄËß ÑÎÄÅÉÑÒÂÈß ÏÅÐÂÎÍÀ×ÀËÜÍÎÌÓ ÂÎÑÏÈÒÀÍÈÞ. ÏÅÒÐÎÃÐÀÄ. 1872–1918. / Ïåäàãîãè÷åñêèå êóðñû ïðè Ïåòðîãðàäñêîì Ôðåáåëåâñêîì îáùåñòâå äëÿ ñîäåéñòâèÿ ïåðâîíà÷àëüíîìó âîñïèòàíèþ /ëè÷íûå äåëà ñëóøàòåëüíèö è âîëüíîñëóøàòåëüíèö/ Íå îöèôðîâàíî ÖÃÈÀ ÑÏá. Ôîíä 72. Îïèñü 1. Äåëî 1482 30.04.1891–24.08.1897 Äåëî î ïðèåìå â ãèìíàçèþ ôîí Âèçåíà Âëàäèìèðà. ÃÈÌÍÀÇÈß ÏÐÈ ÈÌÏÅÐÀÒÎÐÑÊÎÌ ÏÅÒÐÎÃÐÀÄÑÊÎÌ ÈÑÒÎÐÈÊÎ-ÔÈËÎËÎÃÈ×ÅÑÊÎÌ ÈÍÑÒÈÒÓÒÅ. ÏÅÒÐÎÃÐÀÄ. 1870–1918. / Äîêóìåíòû ïî ëè÷íîìó ñîñòàâó, ó÷åáíîé è àäìèíèñòðàòèâíî-õîçÿéñòâåííîé ÷àñòè ãèìíàçèè Íå îöèôðîâàíî ÖÃÈÀ ÑÏá. Ôîíä 72. Îïèñü 1. Äåëî 1617 26.04.1894 Äåëî î ïðèåìå â ãèìíàçèþ ôîí Âèçåíà Íèêîëàÿ. ÃÈÌÍÀÇÈß ÏÐÈ ÈÌÏÅÐÀÒÎÐÑÊÎÌ ÏÅÒÐÎÃÐÀÄÑÊÎÌ ÈÑÒÎÐÈÊÎ-ÔÈËÎËÎÃÈ×ÅÑÊÎÌ ÈÍÑÒÈÒÓÒÅ. ÏÅÒÐÎÃÐÀÄ. 1870–1918. / Äîêóìåíòû ïî ëè÷íîìó ñîñòàâó, ó÷åáíîé è àäìèíèñòðàòèâíî-õîçÿéñòâåííîé ÷àñòè ãèìíàçèè Íå îöèôðîâàíî ÖÃÈÀ ÑÏá. Ôîíä 468. Îïèñü 1. Äåëî 58 03.03.1911–16.05.1913 Âàñèëüåâñêîãî Í.Ã., Âàéíòðîá-Ãåðåíøòåéíà Ð.Ñ., Ôîí-Âèçåíà À.Â., Âîëîáóåâà È.Ì., Âîëîáóåâà Ï.Ì. ÏÅÒÐÎÃÐÀÄÑÊÈÉ ÈÍÑÒÈÒÓÒ ÂÛÑØÈÕ ÊÎÌÌÅÐ×ÅÑÊÈÕ ÇÍÀÍÈÉ ÎÁÙÅÑÒÂÀ ÑÎÄÅÉÑÒÂÈß ÂÛÑØÅÌÓ ÊÎÌÌÅÐ×ÅÑÊÎÌÓ ÎÁÐÀÇÎÂÀÍÈÞ. ÏÅÒÐÎÃÐÀÄ. 1897–1917. / Ïîñòóïëåíèÿ 1911ã. Íå îöèôðîâàíî ÖÃÈÀ ÑÏá. Ôîíä 513. Îïèñü 62. Äåëî 570 áåç äàòû–1883 Áàðîíåññû ôîí-Âèçèí, Ðîæäåñòâåíñêîé ÷àñòè ÏÅÒÐÎÃÐÀÄÑÊÀß ÃÎÐÎÄÑÊÀß ÓÏÐÀÂÀ. ÏÅÒÐÎÃÐÀÄ. 1870–1918. | | Ëàéê (1) |
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22 àïðåëÿ 2021 12:45 20 ìàÿ 2021 16:50 Hello that
ÖÃÈÀ ÑÏá. Ôîíä 72. Îïèñü 1. Äåëî 1482 30.04.1891–24.08.1897 Äåëî î ïðèåìå â ãèìíàçèþ ôîí Âèçåíà Âëàäèìèðà.
this is my great grandfather
ýòî ìîé ïðàäåäóøêà
------------------------------------ TsGIA SPb. Fund 72. Inventory 1. Case 1617 04/26/1894 The case of admission to the gymnasium of von Wiesen Nicholas. COLLEGE AT THE IMPERIAL PETROGRAD HISTORICAL AND PHILOLOGICAL INSTITUTE. PETROGRAD. 1870-1918. / Documents on the personnel, educational and administrative part of the gymnasium
and this is his brother, I have the information of these documents. à ýòî åãî áðàò, ó ìåíÿ åñòü èíôîðìàöèÿ îá ýòèõ äîêóìåíòàõ. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
now I am looking this Karl August von Wiesen , wife and 2 childrens
he should be married after 1895 and those childrens are born around 1904 and 1906 most proababy in Moscow where he studied and lived îí äîëæåí æåíèòüñÿ ïîñëå 1895 ãîäà, à ýòè äåòè ðîäèëèñü ïðèìåðíî â 1904 è 1906 ñàìûé áëàãîïîëó÷íûé â Ìîñêâå, ãäå ó÷èëñÿ è æèë
Âðà÷, ñëóæàùèé â Êàâêàçñêîì âîåííîì îêðóãå: ÐÃÂÈÀ (Ìîñêâà) ô.1304 îï.8 ä.491 Ôîí-Âèçåí Êàðë --- Doctor serving in the Caucasian Military District: RGVIA (Moscow) f. 1304 op. 8 d. 491 Von Wiesen Karl
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22 àïðåëÿ 2021 12:59 Leontiya íàïèñàë: [q] TsGANTD SPb. Fund R-179. Inventory 11. Case 90 04/16/ 1918– 09/25/1918 Correspondence with the candidate of agriculture and forestry V.K. Von-Wiesen on the publication of scientific articles in the journal "Agriculture and Forestry"
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the forester Herman is son of Karl 1810 , but there is other Karl 1878 son of Herman ëåñíè÷èé Ãåðìàí - ñûí Êàðëà 1810 ãîäà, íî åñòü äðóãîé Êàðë 1878 ãîäà, ñûí Ãåðìàíà. --- - Èùó ëþáóþ èíôîðìàöèþ î ñåìüå ôîí Âèçåí â Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðãå, Ìîñêâå èëè Ðèãå. -
-Èùåì ðîäèòåëåé Õóëüäû Ìàðèè Ïðèíö 15.10.1893 Âûáîðã, öåðêîâíûå êíèãè èñ÷åçëè èëè óíè÷òîæåíû èç àðõèâîâ, ìîæåò â ðóññêèõ àðõèâàõ ÷òî-òî îñòàëîñü? | | |
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26 àïðåëÿ 2021 14:50 26 àïðåëÿ 2021 14:58 So I managed to find this Íàéäèòå ýòî http://library.kpi.kharkov.ua/...0%B8%D1%87hes brother of Karl August. îí áðàò Êàðëà Àâãóñòà. Woldemar Herman von Wiesen 23 november 1880 Sankt Petersburg, gorod Sankt-Peterburg, St. "Ðîññèÿ, äóáëèêàòû Ëþòåðàíñêèõ ìåòðè÷åñêèõ êíèã, 1833-1885," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6W3Q-7GW?cc=1469151&wc=M6VP-XM9%3A295801501%2C296754301%2C296938801%2C296826101 : 21 May 2014), St. Petersburg > St. Petersburg > St. Petersburg (St. Catharina I Church, German): St. Petersburg > 1881: Births, marriages, deaths ( 828-14/248) > image 23 of 45; Russland Historischen Staatsarchiv, St. Petersburg (Konsistorium Petersburg. Russian State Historical Archive), St. Petersburg. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6W3Q-7GWhttps://www.geni.com/people/Wo...4952952054
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-Èùåì ðîäèòåëåé Õóëüäû Ìàðèè Ïðèíö 15.10.1893 Âûáîðã, öåðêîâíûå êíèãè èñ÷åçëè èëè óíè÷òîæåíû èç àðõèâîâ, ìîæåò â ðóññêèõ àðõèâàõ ÷òî-òî îñòàëîñü? | | |
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2 ìàÿ 2021 19:33 4 ìàÿ 2021 13:05 Leontiya íàïèñàë: [q] TsGIA SPb. Fund 556. Inventory 1. Case 340 1911 – undated Von Wiesen A.V. PEDAGOGICAL COURSES AT THE PETROGRAD FREBEL SOCIETY TO PROMOTE PRIMARY EDUCATION. PETROGRAD. 1872-1918. / Pedagogical courses at the Petrograd Frebel Society to promote initial education / personal affairs of listeners and volunteers / Not digitized
TsGIA SPb. Fund 468. Inventory 1. Case 58 03.03.1911–16.05.1913 Vasilievsky N.G., Weintrob-Gerenstein R.S., Fon-Wiesen A.V., Volobueva I.M., Volobueva P.M. PETROGRAD INSTITUTE OF HIGHER COMMERCIAL KNOWLEDGE OF THE SOCIETY FOR PROMOTING HIGHER COMMERCIAL EDUCATION. PETROGRAD. 1897-1917. / Receipts 1911 Not digitized
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ÖÃÈÀ ÑÏá. Ôîíä 556. Îïèñü 1. Äåëî 340 1911–áåç äàòû Ôîí Âèçåí À.Â. ÏÅÄÀÃÎÃÈ×ÅÑÊÈÅ ÊÓÐÑÛ ÏÐÈ ÏÅÒÐÎÃÐÀÄÑÊÎÌ ÔÐÅÁÅËÅÂÑÊÎÌ ÎÁÙÅÑÒÂÅ ÄËß ÑÎÄÅÉÑÒÂÈß ÏÅÐÂÎÍÀ×ÀËÜÍÎÌÓ ÂÎÑÏÈÒÀÍÈÞ. ÏÅÒÐÎÃÐÀÄ. 1872–1918. / Ïåäàãîãè÷åñêèå êóðñû ïðè Ïåòðîãðàäñêîì Ôðåáåëåâñêîì îáùåñòâå äëÿ ñîäåéñòâèÿ ïåðâîíà÷àëüíîìó âîñïèòàíèþ /ëè÷íûå äåëà ñëóøàòåëüíèö è âîëüíîñëóøàòåëüíèö/ Íå îöèôðîâàíî ÖÃÈÀ ÑÏá. Ôîíä 468. Îïèñü 1. Äåëî 58 03.03.1911–16.05.1913 Âàñèëüåâñêîãî Í.Ã., Âàéíòðîá-Ãåðåíøòåéíà Ð.Ñ., Ôîí-Âèçåíà À.Â., Âîëîáóåâà È.Ì., Âîëîáóåâà Ï.Ì. ÏÅÒÐÎÃÐÀÄÑÊÈÉ ÈÍÑÒÈÒÓÒ ÂÛÑØÈÕ ÊÎÌÌÅÐ×ÅÑÊÈÕ ÇÍÀÍÈÉ ÎÁÙÅÑÒÂÀ ÑÎÄÅÉÑÒÂÈß ÂÛÑØÅÌÓ ÊÎÌÌÅÐ×ÅÑÊÎÌÓ ÎÁÐÀÇÎÂÀÍÈÞ. ÏÅÒÐÎÃÐÀÄ. 1897–1917. / Ïîñòóïëåíèÿ 1911ã. Íå îöèôðîâàíî Hello, wonder who is this? maybe sister of Arthur Fonvizin? Becuse it has "Ôîí-âèçåíà À.Â." exactly meaning a female . I just got information that Arthur Fonvizin had son Sergey born in 1936 but unfortenately he has passed away in 2017. I don't know if Sergey had children. Maybe his wife is still alive. I was hoping to find a living relative from Russia ... Ïðèâåò, èíòåðåñíî, êòî ýòî? ìîæåò áûòü, ñåñòðà Àðòóðà Ôîíâèçèíà? Ïîòîìó ÷òî â íåì åñòü "Ôîí-âèçåíà À.Â." â òî÷íîñòè îçíà÷àåò æåíùèíó. Ìíå òîëüêî ÷òî ñîîáùèëè, ÷òî ó Àðòóðà Ôîíâèçèíà áûë ñûí Ñåðãåé 1936 ãîäà ðîæäåíèÿ, íî, ê ñîæàëåíèþ, îí ñêîí÷àëñÿ â 2017 ãîäó. Íå çíàþ, áûëè ëè ó Ñåðãåÿ äåòè. Ìîæåò, åãî æåíà åùå æèâà. ß íàäåÿëñÿ íàéòè æèâîãî ðîäñòâåííèêà èç Ðîññèè ... --- - Èùó ëþáóþ èíôîðìàöèþ î ñåìüå ôîí Âèçåí â Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðãå, Ìîñêâå èëè Ðèãå. -
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