von Wiesen family in St Petersburgh
research of my maternal side relatives
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13 ìàÿ 2020 11:00 13 ìàÿ 2020 18:36 Hi thanks for these links. I found dead information for Georg Nicolai is born also in St Petersburgh, but there is no information about parents. So if possible I would even more help to try find this. Ïðèâåò ñïàñèáî çà ýòè ññûëêè. ß íàøåë ìåðòâóþ èíôîðìàöèþ, ïîòîìó ÷òî Ãåîðã Íèêîëàé ðîäèëñÿ è â Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðãå, íî î ðîäèòåëÿõ íåò èíôîðìàöèè. Òàê ÷òî, åñëè âîçìîæíî, ÿ áû åùå áîëüøå ïîìîã íàéòè ýòî. https://www.familysearch.org/a...cc=1469151The vital church book of births St Catharina German Lutheran Church St Petersbugh 1848 is missing, maybe destroyed, so this information should maybe found somehwere else. Maybe some cemetary details or some other archives. Æèçíåííî âàæíàÿ öåðêîâíàÿ êíèãà ðîæäåíèé Ñâ. Êàòàðèíû, íåìåöêîé ëþòåðàíñêîé öåðêâè Ñâ. Ïåòåðñáóðãà, 1848 ã., îòñóòñòâóåò, ìîæåò áûòü, óíè÷òîæåíà, ïîýòîìó ýòó èíôîðìàöèþ, âîçìîæíî, ñëåäóåò íàéòè ãäå-òî åùå. Ìîæåò áûòü, íåêîòîðûå äåòàëè êëàäáèùà èëè äðóãèå àðõèâû. Yes these are sons of Georg Nicolai von Wiesen; my relatives .. Vladimir is this. Äà, ýòî ñûíîâüÿ; ìîè ðîäñòâåííèêè .. Âëàäèìèð ýòî. https://ria1914.info/index.php...0%B8%D1%87TsGIA SPb 72 - 1 - 1617 The case of admission to the gymnasium of von Wiesen Nikolai (1894) https://spbarchives.ru/infres/-/archive/cgia/72/1/1617TsGIA SPb 72 - 1 - 1482 The case of admission to the school of von Wiesen Vladimir (1891-1897) https://spbarchives.ru/infres/-/archive/cgia/72/1/1482 | | |
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13 ìàÿ 2020 11:25 29 ìàÿ 2020 14:05 gelene íàïèñàë: [q]  ÐÃÂÈÀ ëè÷íîå äåëî âðà÷à, îêîí÷èâøåãî Âîåííî-ìåäèöèíñêóþ àêàäåìèþ:
ÐÃÂÈÀ (Ìîñêâà) ô.316 îï.63 ä.1017. Âèçåí Ãåîðã Ôðèäðèõîâè÷
Âðà÷, ñëóæàùèé â Êàâêàçñêîì âîåííîì îêðóãå:
ÐÃÂÈÀ (Ìîñêâà) ô.1304 îï.8 ä.491 Ôîí-Âèçåí Êàðë
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thanks, seems both father Georg Friedrich von Wiesen and son Carl Friedrich Ferdinand von Wiesen are doctors, ñïàñèáî, êàæåòñÿ, îáà îòöà Ãåîðã Ôðèäðèõ ôîí Âèçåí è ñûí Êàðë Ôðèäðèõ Ôåðäèíàíä ôîí Âèçåí ÿâëÿþòñÿ âðà÷àìè, | | |
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2 èþíÿ 2020 18:40 Hi again I found this page http://www.zarubezhje.narod.ru/av/V_480.htmVizin Vladimir von (1910 (1911?) -?) Born in 1910 (according to other sources, in 1911). He lived in Finland. He graduated from the St. Sergius Orthodox Theological Institute in Paris . However, having married a Swedish Finnish, he lost the right to dignity. Compiled by sources: “And I had to live apart for a year ...”: Russian abroad in Finland between the two wars: Materials for biobibliography. - SPb .: ICC "Russian Emigration", 2003. - 288 p. just wondering could this be same person as my grandfathers brother? or is this different Vladimir? can anyone found those original sources? Vladimir von Wiesen Russian: Âëàäèìèð ôîíÂèçåí Gender: Male Birth: April 25, 1909 Vyborg, Finland Death: March 20, 1995 (85) https://www.geni.com/people/Wo...9434340070 | | |
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23 èþëÿ 2020 8:35 23 èþëÿ 2020 11:12 The Vladimir was same person in above post he was studuing teology in Paris. I got same information from his sisters daughter whihch confirms its same person- Now I have new question My grandfathers mother was Antonina von Wiesen (born as Georgijeskij) born 06. June 1886 Svjatozero Olonetskaja Karelija. I got her parents names and birth place just yesterday father Mihail Dmitrieff Georgievskij teacher, son of priest (ó÷èòåëü ìóíèöèïàëüíîé øêîëû) mother Olga Feofiliktova Im not sure if those names are fully right way written Could this be same person as shes father http://etnomap.karelia.ru/local_historian.shtml?id=15 and https://svyatozero.ru/istorich...ya_shkoly/ thanks for help rgds antti | | |
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23 èþëÿ 2020 8:52 9 ÿíâàðÿ 2022 0:12 and second question is about military person, if someone here could maybe post this to right military section of this forum? è âòîðîé âîïðîñ î âîåííîì ÷åëîâåêå, åñëè êòî-òî çäåñü ìîã áû îïóáëèêîâàòü ýòî â ïðàâèëüíîì âîåííîì ðàçäåëå ýòîãî ôîðóìà? the above mentioned Antonina von Wiesen (born as Georgijeskij) born 06. June 1886 Svjatozero Olonetskaja Karelija was married with Âèçåí Âëàäèìèð Íèêîëàåâè÷, von Wiesen Vladimir Nikolaevich but I got information he was married first time with with man called Rehoff also a lower rank officer, from same Vyborg fortress infantry battalion but she got widowed (Âûáîðãñêèé êðåïîñòíîé ïåõîòíûé áàòàëüîí).. Now Im also trying to find this man, maybe killed in fightings? âûøåóïîìÿíóòàÿ Àíòîíèíà ôîí Âèçåí (ðîä. Ãåîðãèåâñêèé), ðîäèâøàÿñÿ 06. èþíÿ 1886 ãîäà Ñâÿòîçåðî Îëîíåöêàÿ Êàðåëèÿ áûëà çàìóæåì çà Âèçåí Âëàäèìèð Íèêîëàåâè÷, íî ÿ ïîëó÷èë èíôîðìàöèþ, ÷òî îí âïåðâûå æåíèëñÿ íà ìíå ïî èìåíè Ðåõîôô, òîæå îôèöåð áîëåå íèçêîãî ðàíãà, èç òîãî æå ïåõîòíîãî áàòàëüîíà Âûáîðãñêîé êðåïîñòè. Òåïåðü ÿ òîæå ïûòàþñü íàéòè ýòîãî ÷åëîâåêà, ìîæåò áûòü, óáèò â áîÿõ? rgds antti | | |
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23 èþëÿ 2020 10:01 Antti69 íàïèñàë: [q] man called Rehoff also a lower rank officer, from same Vyborg fortress infantry battalion but she got widowed (Âûáîðãñêèé êðåïîñòíîé ïåõîòíûé áàòàëüîí).. Now Im also trying to find this man, maybe killed in fightings?
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Rehov (in old Russian spelling - Ðѣõîâ) died probably in June 1906 Look at here https://ria1914.info/index.php....84.D0.B5.
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23 èþëÿ 2020 10:37 23 èþëÿ 2020 10:38 thank you very much-. rgds antti | | |
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23 èþëÿ 2020 10:41 yes I saw that Feofilakt Lysko also, and tough he could be relative of Olga, yes maybe father | | |
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