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Íà ñàéòå ÂÃÄ ñîáèðàþòñÿ ëþäè, óâëå÷åííûå ãåíåàëîãèåé, èñòîðèåé, ãåðàëüäèêîé è ò.ä. Çäåñü âû íàéäåòå ñîáåñåäíèêîâ, ýêñïåðòîâ, óìåëûõ ïîìîùíèêîâ â ïîèñêàõ ïðåäêîâ è ðîäñòâåííèêîâ. Âàì ïîäñêàæóò ãäå èñêàòü äîêóìåíòû î ïàâøèõ â áîÿõ è ïðîïàâøèõ áåç âåñòè, â êàêîé àðõèâ îáðàòèòüñÿ ïðè èññëåäîâàíèè ðîäîñëîâíîé ñâîåé ñåìüè, ïîìîãóò îïðåäåëèòü ïî ñòàðîé ôîòîãðàôèè ïðèíàäëåæíîñòü ê âîèíñêèì ÷àñòÿì, âåäîìñòâàì è ÷èíó. ÂÃÄ - ïîèñê ëþäåé â ïðîøëîì, íàñòîÿùåì è áóäóùåì!
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Ãîëîä â 1890-õ ãîäàõ


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Kalmikov

Ñîîáùåíèé: 1260
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2015 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 783

arcobaleno íàïèñàë:
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À â 1920-30-å íå òîëüêî ïîìîùü íå îêàçûâàëàñü — ãîëîä áûë èñóññòâåííî ñïðîâîöèðîâàí áîëüøåâèêàìè
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â 1920-21 ãîëîä áûë ñïðîâîöèðîâàí íåâèäàííîé çàñóõîé , à âîò Ñîâåòñêîé âëàñòè êàê òàêîâîé åùå ïðàêòè÷åñêè íå áûëî , íå áûëî åùå êàê òàêîâûõ è îðãàíîâ óïðàâëåíèÿ, òîëüêî ÷òî çàêîí÷èëàñü âîéíà, åùå íå âñÿ òåððèòîðèÿ î÷èùåíà îò îêêóïàíòîâ (èíòåðâåíòîâ)
arcobaleno íàïèñàë:
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Òî åñòü, áûëà ïðîáëåìà — ãîñóäàðñòâî ñòðåìèëîñü
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äà ðåøàëè, êàê Àëàáèí â Ñàìàðå (20 ðàç çà 50 ëåò ïðîáëåìà âîçíèêàëà), äî ñóäà (öàðñêîãî) äîøåë, çà ãíèëîé õëåá
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èùó!
Ëàéê (1)
Ýòà òåìà áûëà âûäåëåíà èç òåìû "Êðåñòüÿíå" (13 ÿíâàðÿ 2018 21:14)
Arcobaleno

Arcobaleno

Ïñêîâ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 2783
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2010 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 4592

Kalmikov íàïèñàë:
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íó åñëè ñëîâî ãîëîä íàäî
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Ïðî÷èòàëà. È îïÿòü ýòî ïîäòâåðæäàåò âñå, ÷òî ÿ ãîâîðèëà ðàíåå.
Åñòü ïðîáëåìà (íåóðîæàé) -- ãîñóäàðñòâî ñòðåìèòñÿ åå ðåøèòü.
"Ïðîäîâîëüñòâåííàÿ ññóäà", "çåìñêèå àññèãíîâàíèÿ"...


Kalmikov íàïèñàë:
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â 1920-21 ãîëîä áûë ñïðîâîöèðîâàí íåâèäàííîé çàñóõîé , à âîò Ñîâåòñêîé âëàñòè êàê òàêîâîé åùå ïðàêòè÷åñêè íå áûëî , íå áûëî åùå êàê òàêîâûõ è îðãàíîâ óïðàâëåíèÿ
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Çàñóõà óíè÷òîæèëà îêîëî 20% ïîñåâîâ, à âñå îñòàëüíîå ñäåëàëè ïðîäîòðÿäû, îðãàíèçîâàííûå ïî ïîñòàíîâëåíèþ ñîâåòà íàðîäíûõ êîìèññàðîâ â 1918 ãîäó â ðàìêàõ ïðîâîäèìîé áîëüøåâèêàìè ïðîäðàçâåðñòêè.
Ïðîäîòðÿäû îðãàíèçîâûâàëèñü â ãîðîäàõ, íà çàâîäàõ è ôàáðèêàõ. Îòáèðàëè ó êðåñòüÿí ÍÅ èçëèøêè, âûãðåáàëè ÂÑÅ ïîä÷èñòóþ, îáðåêàÿ íà ëþäîåäñòâî è ãîëîäíóþ ñìåðòü.
Ïîëîâèíó îòîáðàííîãî ó êðåñòüÿí ïðîäîòðÿä÷èêè çàáèðàëè ñåáå, ïîëîâèíó ñäàâàëè ãîñóäàðñòâó.
Ýòî ïðèçíàþò è ñàìè áîëüøåâèêè, âîò ñòàòüÿ èç Áîëüøîé ñîâåòñêîé ýíöèêëîïåäèè:


Ìàðò 1922 ãîäà.
Ëåíèí.
Òîâàðèùó Ìîëîòîâó äëÿ ÷ëåíîâ Ïîëèòáþðî


Kalmikov íàïèñàë:
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äà ðåøàëè, êàê Àëàáèí â Ñàìàðå (20 ðàç çà 50 ëåò ïðîáëåìà âîçíèêàëà), äî ñóäà (öàðñêîãî) äîøåë, çà ãíèëîé õëåá
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Áëàãîäàðÿ Âàì ÿ ïîçíàêîìèëàñü ñ äåÿòåëüíîñòüþ Àëàáèíà è óçíàëà, êàê ìíîãî îí ñäåëàë äëÿ Ñàìàðû. rose.gif
À íà ñ÷åò ãíèëîãî õëåáà, Àëàáèíà ìîæíî îáâèíèòü òîëüêî â òîì, ÷òî îí íå ïðîâåðèë ëè÷íî, êàêîãî êà÷åñòâà çåðíî ïîñòàâèë æóëèêîâàòûé êóïåö.
Êðîìå òîãî, ýòî ÷àñòíûé ñëó÷àé, à ÿ ãîâîðþ î ãîñóäàðñòâåííîé ïîëèòèêå â öåëîì.
Äàæå ñëó÷àé ñ Àëàáèíûì, êîòîðûé Âû ïðèâåëè, ãîâîðèò â ïîëüçó öàðñêîé âëàñòè, òàê êàê îíà óñòðîèëà ñóäåáíîå ðàçáèðàòåëüñòâî ïî ïîâîäó ãíèëîãî õëåáà, à íå çàìîë÷àëà ïðîáëåìó.
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ÎÑÒÀÔÜÅÂÛ, ÄÅÍÈÑÅÍÊÎ - Êóáàíü
ÁÎÐÄÈÊÎÂÛ (ÁÎÐÄÞÃÎÂÛ) - Âîðîíåæñêàÿ ãóá
ÔÅÄÎÐÎÂÛ (ÁÎËÜØÀÊÎÂÛ) - Ïñêîâñê.ó., ä.Çàãîðüå
ËÀÊÌÀÍ, ÂÀËÈÓÑ, ËÈÑÒÅÍÈÓÑ, ÒÎËÈÀÍÄÅÐ, ÂÅÍÄÀËÈÓÑ, ÁÓËÈÕ - Ôèíëÿíäèÿ
ÃÀÐÊÓØÀ - Àáèíñêàÿ
SharaGoding
Íîâè÷îê

USA
Ñîîáùåíèé: 2
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2026 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 2
Çäðàâñòâóéòå, ÿ èçó÷àþ èñòîðèþ ñâîèõ ïðåäêîâ è çàîäíî ðåøèëà èçó÷èòü èñòîðèþ ðåãèîíîâ, ïîêà íå âûÿñíèëà áîëüøå î ñâîèõ êîðíÿõ. Äîëæíà ïðèçíàòüñÿ, ÷òî ÿ àìåðèêàíêà è, âåðîÿòíî, ó ìåíÿ èñêàæåííîå ïðåäñòàâëåíèå î öàðñêîé Ðîññèè è ÑÑÑÐ. ß áû õîòåëà óçíàòü îá ýòèõ ïåðèîäàõ èç áîëåå íàäåæíûõ èñòî÷íèêîâ, à íå èç çàïàäíûõ. Íå ìîãëè áû âû ïîäñêàçàòü è ïîìî÷ü ìíå íàéòè êàêèå-íèáóäü êíèãè èëè àóäèîçàïèñè, âîçìîæíî, óæå ïåðåâåäåííûå íà àíãëèéñêèé èëè êîòîðûå ÿ ìîãó ïåðåâåñòè ÷åðåç «ßíäåêñ»? ß âàì î÷åíü ïðèçíàòåëüíà.
Ìíå èíòåðåñíà âñÿ ðóññêàÿ èñòîðèÿ, à òàêæå èñòîðèÿ ñîñåäíèõ ðåãèîíîâ, ïîòîìó ÷òî ÿ óâåðåí, ÷òî ìîå ãåíåàëîãè÷åñêîå äðåâî ðàçâåòâëÿåòñÿ. Ìîè ïðåäêè ýìèãðèðîâàëè â ÑØÀ â 1898 ãîäó, è ìíå áû òîæå õîòåëîñü óçíàòü áîëüøå îá èõ æèçíè.
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I am looking for my ancestors; Alexander and his son Emanuel Fridman, Friedman, Freedman (Alexander was a twin born in Ekaterinoslov or Kharkiv 1877, Emanuel Born in Riga 1898) Elizabeth Dalman, Talman, Thalman ( Born in Kaluga 1881)
secere

secere

Ñîîáùåíèé: 952
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2024 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 902
>> Îòâåò íà ñîîáùåíèå ïîëüçîâàòåëÿ SharaGoding îò 4 èþíÿ 2026 20:29
Äîáðûé äåíü.
Âàì íàâåðíîå ïîëåçíî áûëî áû íà÷àòü ïðèìåðíî ñ òàêîãî ìàòåðèàëà:
Êíèãà "Åâðåè â Ðîññèéñêîé èìïåðèè. 1772–1917. Êðàòêèé êóðñ", Àâòîð: Áóäíèöêèé Î.Â.
Ýòî ñîâðåìåííàÿ êíèãà, èçäàíà â 2025 ãîäó.
Ïîñïðàøèâàéòå íà åâðåéñêèõ ðåñóðñàõ (ôîðóìû, ñàéòû, íàïðèìåð https://forum.j-roots.info/), ìîæåò êîëëåãè ïî ïîèñêó ïîìîãóò Âàì å¸ ïðèîáðåñòè.
https://allbestus.com/products...dL7m_m9elH

 äàííîé ñåðèè "×òî òàêîå Ðîññèÿ" åñòü êíèãà è îá æèçíè ïðè ÑÑÑÐ.
https://allbestus.com/products...=4f57af642
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Hello,
It would probably be useful for you to start with something like this:
The book “Jews in the Russian Empire, 1772–1917: A Short Course” by O.V. Budnitsky.
This is a modern book, published in 2025.
Try asking on Jewish resources, such as forums and websites (https://forum.j-roots.info/ etc.). Perhaps fellow researchers can help you purchase it.
https://allbestus.com/products...dL7m_m9elH

In this series, “What Is Russia?”, there is also a book about life in the USSR.
https://allbestus.com/products...=4f57af642

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P.S.
valcha
Âîïðîñ è îòâåò î÷åâèäíî íå ïî òåìå. Íå óâåðåíà, ãäå ýòî ëó÷øå ðàçìåñèòü, íàâåðíîå ìîæíî ïåðåêèíóòü â ôàìèëüíóþ òåìó ó÷àñòíèêà: https://forum.vgd.ru/?t=193124
Çàðàíåå ñïàñèáî! rose.gif
SharaGoding
Íîâè÷îê

USA
Ñîîáùåíèé: 2
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2026 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 2
Hello and thank you very much for your suggestions. I will begin.

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I am looking for my ancestors; Alexander and his son Emanuel Fridman, Friedman, Freedman (Alexander was a twin born in Ekaterinoslov or Kharkiv 1877, Emanuel Born in Riga 1898) Elizabeth Dalman, Talman, Thalman ( Born in Kaluga 1881)
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