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Óâàæàåìûå ó÷àñòíèêè! Áîëüøàÿ ïðîñüáà - èãíîðèðîâàòü òåìû îò ñïàìùèêîâ, íå îòêðûâàòü èõ, ÷òîáû íå ïîäíèìàòü ïðîñìîòðû ñïàìà. Ëþáûå ñîîáùåíèÿ â ýòîì ðàçäåëå íå ïî òåìå — ôëóä — áóäóò ïåðåíåñåíû èëè óäàëåíû ïî óñìîòðåíèþ ìîäåðàòîðà áåç îáúÿñíåíèÿ ïðè÷èí. |
Çàãðóçêà GEDCOM íà ÂÃÄ
Ìû ïîñìîòðåëè íà ñèòóàöèþ ñ MyHeritage è íå ñìîãëè îñòàòüñÿ â ñòîðîíå
aaganichev Ñîîáùåíèé: 333 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2024 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 183 | Íàâåðõ ##
7 ìàðòà 2025 23:48 Radmir1989 íàïèñàë: [q] Íàæèìàþ íà äðåâî ,ïåðåíîñèòü íà ïóñòóþ ñòðàíèöó äëÿ ñîçäàíèÿ äðåâà ñ íóëÿ êàê ÿ ïîíÿë.[/q]
Ýòî ðàçíûé ôóíêöèîíàë. Gedcom - íîâàÿ ôóíêöèÿ íà ñàéòå, åù¸ íåäîïèëåíà è â âèäå äåðåâüåâ ïîêà íå ïîêàçûâàåòñÿ. Íî ïîòîì îáåùàþò (ïåðåçàëèâàòü íå íàäî áóäåò). Ñòàðûå äåðåâüÿ ìíå ñîâñåì íå çàøëè. --- Èùó:
- (Èð)ðîäèîíà Àãàíè÷åâà (ñåðåäèíà 19 âåêà) íå çíàþ îòêóäà
- Ðîæäåíèå ãäå-òî â Ïèòåðå Âàñèëèÿ Èâàíîâè÷à Ãàëêèíà (~1872) èç ñåëà Óãîäè÷è, Ðîñòîâñêîãî óåçäà, ßðîñëàâñêîé ãóáåðíèè | | |
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Ìîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 40 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2024 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 24 | Íàâåðõ ##
11 ìàðòà 2025 16:38 Çäðàâñòâóéòå! Ñãîäíÿ ÿ ïåðâûé ðàç ñäåëàë ýêñïîðò èç Gramps è çàãðóçêó íà ñàéò ÂÃÄ. Õî÷ó ñäåëàòü íåñêîëüêî ïðåäëîæåíèé ïî ñîâåðøåíñòâîâàíèþ ñåðâèñà. 1. Îò÷åñòâî  GEDCOM ñòàíäàðòíîãî òýãà äëÿ "îò÷åñòâà" íåò. Gramps õðàíèò/âûâîäèò îò÷åñòâà ñ òýãîì SURN âîò òàê: 2 SURN Âàñèëüåâíà, Êîëåí÷åíêî. Ïðè âûâîäå èìååò ñìûñë âûâîäèòü òî, ÷òî äî çàïÿòîé êàê "Îò÷åñòâî", à èç ôàìèëèè, ñîîòâåòñòâåííî, èñêëþ÷àòü. Îòìå÷ó, ÷òî ïî ìîåìó ìíåíèþ îò÷åñòâî äåéñòâèòåëüíî ÿâëÿåòñÿ ÷àñòüþ SURN (ôàìèëèè).  ïðîøëîì îíî ÷àñòî çàìåíÿëî ñåãîäíÿøíþþ "ôàìèëèþ". 2. Ôàìèëèÿ â áðàêå Gramps ãåíåðèðóåò òýã TYPE äëÿ ðàçëè÷íûõ òèïîâ àëüòåðíàòèâíûõ èìåí.  ÷àñòíîñòè, äëÿ èìåíè â áðàêå. Òåì íå ìåíåå, ïðè âûâîäå "Âàðèàíòà èìåíè" ïèøåòñÿ, ÷òî ýòî "Ôàìèëèÿ ïðè ðîæäåíèè": 1 NAME Àíàñòàñèÿ /Âàñèëüåâíà Áðàíèöêàÿ/ 2 TYPE married 2 GIVN Àíàñòàñèÿ 2 SURN Âàñèëüåâíà, Áðàíèöêàÿ Ëþäè òàê æå ìîãóò ïîìåíÿòü ôàìèëèþ ïî äðóãèì ïðè÷èíàì: íåáëàãîçâó÷íîñòü çâó÷àíèÿ ("Êîëåí÷åíêî" îò "êîëåíî", çàìåíÿåòñÿ íà áëèçêóþ "Êàëèí÷åíêî"). Ýòî òàê æå íå áóäåò "Ôàìèëèÿ ïðè ðîæäåíèè", à "Ôàìèëèÿ ïî ïðèíÿòèþ". 3. Äàòû  Gramps åñòü ìíîãî ðàçëè÷íûõ òèïîâ äàòû, ýòî äàëåêî íå âñåãäà "òî÷íàÿ" äàòà. Íàïðèìåð äëÿ äàòû ðîæäåíèÿ "äî 1907", Gramps ãåíåðèðóåò ñëåäóþùóþ çàïèñü â GEDCOM-ôàéëå (BEF ýòî ñîêðàùåíèå îò àíãëèéñêîãî BEFORE): 2 DATE BEF 1907 Äëÿ äàòû Îêîëî "26 Îêòÿáðÿ 2024" (ABT ñîêðàùåíèå îò ABOUT): 2 DATE ABT 26 OCT 2024 è äð. | | |
aaganichev Ñîîáùåíèé: 333 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2024 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 183 | Íàâåðõ ##
11 ìàðòà 2025 18:47 petr_fedorov íàïèñàë: [q] 1. Îò÷åñòâî  GEDCOM ñòàíäàðòíîãî òýãà äëÿ "îò÷åñòâà" íåò. Gramps õðàíèò/âûâîäèò îò÷åñòâà ñ òýãîì SURN âîò òàê: 2 SURN Âàñèëüåâíà, Êîëåí÷åíêî. Ïðè âûâîäå èìååò ñìûñë âûâîäèòü òî, ÷òî äî çàïÿòîé êàê "Îò÷åñòâî", à èç ôàìèëèè, ñîîòâåòñòâåííî, èñêëþ÷àòü. Îòìå÷ó, ÷òî ïî ìîåìó ìíåíèþ îò÷åñòâî äåéñòâèòåëüíî ÿâëÿåòñÿ ÷àñòüþ SURN (ôàìèëèè).  ïðîøëîì îíî ÷àñòî çàìåíÿëî ñåãîäíÿøíþþ "ôàìèëèþ".
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Ó âàñ, íàâåðíîå, êàê-òî ñòðàííî çàáèòî â Gramps. Ó ìåíÿ èìÿ-îò÷åñòâî âáèòû â ïîëå èìåíè, à â ïîëå ôàìèëèè çàáèòû ôàìèëèè (èëè ïðèäóìàííûå ôàìèëèè, ÷òîáû íå ïóòàòüñÿ). È âñ¸ ïîêàçûâàåòñÿ àäåêâàòíî ÷òî â Gramps. ÷òî ïðè ýêñïîðòå êóäà ëèáî. Ò.å. òàê: 1 NAME Àíàñòàñèÿ Âàñèëüåâíà /Áðàíèöêàÿ/ 2 TYPE married 2 GIVN Àíàñòàñèÿ Âàñèëüåâíà 2 SURN Áðàíèöêàÿ --- Èùó:
- (Èð)ðîäèîíà Àãàíè÷åâà (ñåðåäèíà 19 âåêà) íå çíàþ îòêóäà
- Ðîæäåíèå ãäå-òî â Ïèòåðå Âàñèëèÿ Èâàíîâè÷à Ãàëêèíà (~1872) èç ñåëà Óãîäè÷è, Ðîñòîâñêîãî óåçäà, ßðîñëàâñêîé ãóáåðíèè | | Ëàéê (1) |
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Ìîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 40 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2024 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 24 | Íàâåðõ ##
12 ìàðòà 2025 10:26 >> Îòâåò íà ñîîáùåíèå ïîëüçîâàòåëÿ aaganichev îò 11 ìàðòà 2025 18:47 ß äåëàþ òàê, êàê óêàçàíî â äîêóìåíòàöèè Gramps. Åù¸ â 2010 ãîäó áûëî óêàçàíî, ÷òî: it is clear that nick name has its own field, and patronymic is no longer present. Data entry of a name should be just as fast as with the previous editor. For a patronymic, one must select the origin of the surname as ‘Patronymic’, ò.å. Îò÷åñòâî äîëæíî ââîäèòñÿ êàê "Ôàìèëèÿ" ñ óêàçàíèåì Ïðîèñõîæäåíèå - "Îò÷åñòâî":
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Âëàä-Ê Ðÿçàíñêàÿ îáëàñòü Ñîîáùåíèé: 1010 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2010 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1323 | Íàâåðõ ##
12 ìàðòà 2025 11:02 Óâèäåë ðåàëüíóþ ïîìîùü îò çàãðóçêè ÃÅÄÊÎÌ. Íàø¸ë â äðóãîì ÃÅÄÊÎÌå ñîâïàäåíöåâ, à ìîæåò áûòü è ðîäñòâåííèêîâ.
À êîãäà ìîæíî áóäåò çàãðóçèòü ôîòîãðàôèè, åñëè ôàéë íå ñ ñàéòà ÌÍ? --- Êîíîíîâ Â.Ã. http://forum.vgd.ru/1533/ Èùó: ÎáëàñòüÂîéñêàÄîíñêîãî, ÄîíåöêèéÎêðóã, ñë.Ìàë÷åâñêî-Ïîëíåíñêàÿ - Ñóëüæåíêî, Ïðèòûêèíû, Ñëåïöîâû, Êîðíèåíêî. Âèòåáñêàÿ ãóáåðíèÿ, Âåëèæñêèé óåçä, Öåðêîâèùåíñêàÿ âîëîñòü, ä. Ëóãîâèíî | | |
WaldemarKeer Landau a.d.Isar Ñîîáùåíèé: 563 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2022 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 301 | Íàâåðõ ##
12 ìàðòà 2025 14:29 Çäðàâñòâóéòå, Vodnik_dnepr! Ñíà÷àëà î÷åíü îáðàäîâàëñÿ Âàøåìó ëîçóíãó: «Çàãðóçèòå GEDCOM-ôàéë íà ÂÃÄ». Íî ïîòîì äîëãî èñêàë, ãäå æå ýòè ôàéëû? Òàê è íå íàø¸ë. Äåëî â òîì, ÷òî â ìîèõ àðõèâàõ åñòü îêîëî ñîòíè ôàéëîâ GED. Ýòî îêîëî 150 òûñÿ÷ ôàìèëèé. Ñïèñêè çäåñü: https://forum.wolgadeutsche.ne...;start=760 ïîðÿäêå îáìåíà äàì èíôîðìàöèþ. Ñ óâàæåíèåì Waldemar Keer --- Arnbrecht, Behringer, Böhm, Büchert, Claus (Klaus), Diel, Dingens, Dörr (Derr), Döring, Eigster, Eisner, Ernst, Fischer, Frank, Gallowa, Göbel, Habermann, Heck, Henkel, Hippe, Kempel, Knaus, Kunzmann, Landmann, Leichner, Lohle, Luft, Meng, Micheilis, Michel | | |
aaganichev Ñîîáùåíèé: 333 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2024 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 183 | Íàâåðõ ##
12 ìàðòà 2025 15:30 petr_fedorov íàïèñàë: [q] ß äåëàþ òàê, êàê óêàçàíî â äîêóìåíòàöèè Gramps. Åù¸ â 2010 ãîäó áûëî óêàçàíî, ÷òî: it is clear that nick name has its own field, and patronymic is no longer present. Data entry of a name should be just as fast as with the previous editor. For a patronymic, one must select the origin of the surname as ‘Patronymic’, ò.å. Îò÷åñòâî äîëæíî ââîäèòñÿ êàê "Ôàìèëèÿ" ñ óêàçàíèåì Ïðîèñõîæäåíèå - "Îò÷åñòâî":[/q] https://www.gramps-project.org...ExtensionsÂèäèìî ñëåäóåò âîñïîëüçîâàòüñÿ îïöèÿìè ðàñøèðåíèÿ ýêñïîðòà.
 --- Èùó:
- (Èð)ðîäèîíà Àãàíè÷åâà (ñåðåäèíà 19 âåêà) íå çíàþ îòêóäà
- Ðîæäåíèå ãäå-òî â Ïèòåðå Âàñèëèÿ Èâàíîâè÷à Ãàëêèíà (~1872) èç ñåëà Óãîäè÷è, Ðîñòîâñêîãî óåçäà, ßðîñëàâñêîé ãóáåðíèè | | Ëàéê (2) |
IvaneevÂëàäèìèð  Ìîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 457 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2019 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 437 | Íàâåðõ ##
13 ìàðòà 2025 8:52 Íàäî áû ïðåäóñìîòðåòü óäàëåíèå ñòàðûõ âåðñèé çàãðóæåííûõ ôàéëîâ. Ñåé÷àñ ìîæíî óäàëèòü òîëüêî ñðàçó âñ¸. Èëè ÿ ÷òî-òî íå óâèäåë? --- Âëàäèìèð | | |
WaldemarKeer Landau a.d.Isar Ñîîáùåíèé: 563 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2022 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 301 | Íàâåðõ ##
13 ìàðòà 2025 11:37 Ivaneev íàïèñàë: [q] çàãðóæåííûõ ôàéëîâ.[/q]
Òàê ãäå ñàìè ôàéëû? --- Arnbrecht, Behringer, Böhm, Büchert, Claus (Klaus), Diel, Dingens, Dörr (Derr), Döring, Eigster, Eisner, Ernst, Fischer, Frank, Gallowa, Göbel, Habermann, Heck, Henkel, Hippe, Kempel, Knaus, Kunzmann, Landmann, Leichner, Lohle, Luft, Meng, Micheilis, Michel | | |
Âëàä-Ê Ðÿçàíñêàÿ îáëàñòü Ñîîáùåíèé: 1010 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2010 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1323 | Íàâåðõ ##
13 ìàðòà 2025 11:51 WaldemarKeer íàïèñàë: [q] Ivaneev íàïèñàë:
[q] çàãðóæåííûõ ôàéëîâ.
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Òàê ãäå ñàìè ôàéëû?
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Ñâîè ôàéëû óâèäèòå, ïðîñòî ùåëêíóâ ïî íàäïèñè "Çàãðóçèòå GEDCOM-ôàéë íà ÂÃÄ" --- Êîíîíîâ Â.Ã. http://forum.vgd.ru/1533/ Èùó: ÎáëàñòüÂîéñêàÄîíñêîãî, ÄîíåöêèéÎêðóã, ñë.Ìàë÷åâñêî-Ïîëíåíñêàÿ - Ñóëüæåíêî, Ïðèòûêèíû, Ñëåïöîâû, Êîðíèåíêî. Âèòåáñêàÿ ãóáåðíèÿ, Âåëèæñêèé óåçä, Öåðêîâèùåíñêàÿ âîëîñòü, ä. Ëóãîâèíî | | |
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