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27 îêòÿáðÿ 2008 17:03 27 îêòÿáðÿ 2008 17:04  Ïîáîäàþñü åùå ñ Âàìè. Íó, ÷èñòÀ îò ñêóêè. Gontar íàïèñàë: [q] Íà ôîðóìå åñòü òåìà -Ïðåäëîæåíèÿ êðàòêîâðåìåííîé ïîìîùè (ïëàòíîé è áåñïëàòíîé)-ãäå âû ïðåäëîæèëè ñâîè óñëóãè ïî Âèííèöå. [/q]
Ñ òî÷íîñòüþ äî íàîáîðîò. ß ïðîøó ïîìîùè ïî Âèííèöêîìó àðõèâó. Gontar íàïèñàë: [q] Ìû çàíèìàåìñÿ ÁÅÑÏËÀÒÍÎÉ ïîìîùüþ. [/q]
Òàê è ÿ áåñïëàòíîé. ß îò ñâîåé äåÿòåëüíîñòè íè êîïåéêè íå ïîèìåë. Íàîáîðîò, òûñÿ÷è äîëëàðîâ ñâîèõ âáóõàë. Gontar íàïèñàë: [q] Ïðîåêò Èíäåêñèíã ñîçäàí äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû ëþäè ìîãëè ÁÅÑÏËÀÒÍÎ ñìîòðåòü â èíòåðíåòå âñå òî, ÷òî èì íåîáõîäèìî.[/q]
×òî èì íåîáõîäèìî ïî Ðîññèè , óâû, íå ïîëó÷àåòñÿ. Êðîìå òåõ íåìíîãèõ ñ÷àñòëèâ÷èêîâ, èìåþùèõ ëþòåðàíî-åâàíãåëè÷åñêèå êîðíè. Gontar íàïèñàë: [q] Òàêîå êîëè÷åñòâî ïóñòûõ ñîîáùåíèé, êàêîå âû ïðîäóöèðóåòå, íè ó êîãî áîëüøå íåò. [/q]
Íó, êàê æå? À Âû?  | | |
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27 îêòÿáðÿ 2008 17:09 Mich_Glitch íàïèñàë: [q]
Æèòåëÿì íå ìåíåå êîððóìïèðîâàííîé, íî áîëåå äåìîêðàòè÷íîé Óêðàèíû ïîâåçëî.
È ìèêðîôèëüìèðîâàíèå ïðîâåäåíî áûëî.
È äîñòóï ê ìèêðîôèëüìàì åñòü.
È èíäåñêèðîâàíèå ñêîðî íà÷íåòñÿ.
Òî åñòü ïîÿâèòñÿ ñâîáîäíûé äîñòóï ê ñîáñòâåííîé èñòîðèè ÷åðåç èíòåðíåò.[/q]
Ò.å. â Óêðàèíå ìèêðîôèëüìû ìîæíî çàêàçàòü è ïîñìîòðåòü? Ëþáûå (òå, ÷òî åñòü íà ñàéòå)? À â Ðîññèè ìîæíî çàêàçàòü ìèêðîôèëüìû óêðàèíñêèõ àðõèâîâ? ---
http://forum.vgd.ru/155/18589/
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27 îêòÿáðÿ 2008 17:31 27 îêòÿáðÿ 2008 18:45 Gontar íàïèñàë: [q] Ïðîåêò Èíäåêñèíã ñîçäàí äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû ëþäè ìîãëè ÁÅÑÏËÀÒÍÎ ñìîòðåòü â èíòåðíåòå âñå òî, ÷òî èì íåîáõîäèìî.[/q]
Êñòàòè, ýòîò òåçèñîê îñòàâüòå äëÿ áåäíûõ. Ó ìîðìîíîâ èìåþòñÿ îïðåäåëåííûå öåëè â ñîîòâåòñòâèè ñ èõ ðåëèãèîçíîé äîêòðèíîé. Ìåðòâûõ ëè ïåðåêðåñòèòü è ïåðåæåíèòü, èëè âûâåñòè ñâîå ïðîèñõîæäåíèå îò åâðååâ - íå ñóòü âàæíî. Âàæíî òî, ÷òî ðåàëèçóÿ ïîñòàâëåííûå çàäà÷è, îíè ïðîâîäÿò áåñïëàòíîå ÄÍÊ-òåñòèðîâàíèå è êîïèðîâàíèå àðõèâîâ. Âîñïîëüçîâàòüñÿ ðåçóëüòàòàìè èõ òðóäà, íå çíà÷èò ðàçäåëÿòü èõ ÷àÿíèÿ è âåðîâàíèÿ. Òåïåðü îá èíäåêñèðîâàíèè. Ñîñòîèò îíî èç äâóõ àñïåêòîâ: 1) Êîïèðîâàíèå àðõèâîâ. 2) Ñîñòàâëåíèå èìåííîé áàçû. Ðå÷ü ìîÿ î òîì, êàê ïîèìåòü Âàøó ñåêòó â êà÷åñòâå èñòî÷íèêà èíôîðìàöèè. Ò.å. ÷èñòî ãåíåàëîãè÷åñêèå èíòåðåñû. Âû æå ïå÷åòåñü î ñâîèõ åäèíîâåðöàõ. Íàäî ïîíèìàòü, ÷òî ïîëüçà îò ðåàëèçàöèè ïðîåêòà - îáîþäíàÿ. Ìàðìîòû ðåøàþò ñâîè çàäà÷è, îñ÷àñòëèâëèâàÿ ïðè ýòîì øèðîêóþ ïóáëèêó. Èíà÷å íèêàê íåëüçÿ. Íå áóäóò äàâàòü äîñòóïà ê êîïèÿì - äëÿ íèõ çàêðîþò äîñòóï â àðõèâû. Êîòîðûé è òàê äàþò ñî ñêðèïîì çóáîâíûì, ó÷èòûâàÿ, ÷òî ðå÷ü èäåò î ñîòðóäíè÷åñòâå ñ îäíîé èç íàèáîëåå îäèîçíûõ íà ñåãîäíÿ ñåêò. Íî è â îòâåò ïîëó÷àþò ìíîãîå. Íàïðèìåð, ïî èìåííîé áàçå íå ïðèõîäèòñÿ íàíèìàòü ïðîôåññèîíàëüíûõ ãåíåàëîãîâ ïî 15 - 20 äîëëàðîâ â ÷àñ äëÿ ïåðåíîñà äàííûõ ñî ñíèìêîâ, ò.å. èíäåêñèðîâàíèÿ. Ðåçþìèðóþ. Ïðîåêòû ïî èíäåêñèðîâàíèþ - ýòî äîðîãà ñ äâóõñòîðîííèì äâèæåíèåì, âçàèìîâûãîäíîå ñîòðóäíè÷åñòâî. Íå íàäî ñòàðàòüñÿ ïðåäñòàâèòü åãî, êàê áëàãîòâîðèòåëüíîñòü. | | |
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27 îêòÿáðÿ 2008 17:34 Lorelei íàïèñàë: [q] Ò.å. â Óêðàèíå ìèêðîôèëüìû ìîæíî çàêàçàòü è ïîñìîòðåòü? Ëþáûå (òå, ÷òî åñòü íà ñàéòå)?[/q]
 ÖÃÈÀÊ (Êèåâ) åñòü äâà ñìîòðîâûõ ìåñòà. À âîîáùå õîòåëîñü áû óñëûøàòü îòâåò íà Âàøè äâà âîïðîñà îò Gontar. (Ñîâåòóþ Âàì ïåðåâåñòè èõ â äîñòóïíóþ äëÿ íåå ôîðìó. Ò.å. îäíî ñîîáùåíèå - îäèí êðàòåíüêèé âîïðîñ.) | | |
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27 îêòÿáðÿ 2008 18:27 Mich_Glitch íàïèñàë: [q]
 ÖÃÈÀÊ (Êèåâ) åñòü äâà ñìîòðîâûõ ìåñòà.
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Ïî÷åìó òîëüêî â Êèåâå? Ó íèõ íà ñàéòå îáîçíà÷åíû ñëåäóþùèå ïóíêòû ïî Óêðàèíå: Bila Tserkva Ukraine (Áåëàÿ Öåðêîâü) Kyivs'ka, 13 Bila Tserkva, Kiev, Ukraine Bogatoye Ukraine (Áîãàòîå, Êðûì) Moskovs'Ka 37 Bahate, Bilohirs'Kyi Raion Ar Krym, Ukraine Borschahivs'kyi Ukraine (Êèåâ, Ëüâîâ (?) Shota Rustaveli 16, 5th Fl Kyiv, L'viv, Ukraine Phone: 380-44-476-7421 Brovars'ka Ukraine (Áðîâàðû) Gagarina 27-A Brovary, Kyivs'ka Oblast,, Ukraine Cherkassy Ukraine (×åðêàññû) Smilians'Ka, 1 Cherkasy, Cherkassy, Ukraine Phone: 380-472-321-374 Dnepropetrovsk Ukraine (Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê) Pushkina 55 Dnipropetrovs'k, Dnepropetrovs'k, Ukraine Gorlovka Ukraine (Ãîðëîâêà) Bessonova 49 Horlivka, Donetsk Oblast, Ukraine Ivano-Frankivs'ka Ukraine (Èâàíî-Ôðàíêîâñê) Mazepy Str. 140-A Ivano-Frankivs'k, Ivano-Frankovsk, Ukraine Phone: 380-3422-40-233 Kharkivskyi Ukraine (Õàðüêîâ(?) Almaatinskaya str. 2/1 Kyiv, Kiev, Ukraine Kherson Ukraine (Õåðñîí) Ukrains'Ka 5 Kherson, Kherson, Ukraine L'viv Ukraine (Ëüâîâ) Shota Rustaveli 11 L'viv, L'viv, Ukraine Phone: 380-322-403-345 Lugansk Tsentralny Ukraine (Ëóãàíñê) Robitnycha 25 Luhans'k, Lugansk, Ukraine Luts'ka Ukraine (Ëóöê) 8 Bereznia Str. 5 Luts'k, Volynia, Ukraine Phone: 380-3322-30347 Mariupol Tsentralny Ukraine (Ìàðèóïîëü) B. Khmel'Nyts'Koho, 4-A Mariupol', Donetsk Oblast, Ukraine Phone: 380-629-310-533 Obolons'ka Ukraine (Êèåâ) Prosp. V. Poryka 13v, 2nd Fl Kyiv, Kyiv, Ukraine Odessa Ukraine Tsentralny (Îäåññà) Lanzheronovskay, 20/22 Odesa, Odessa, Ukraine Phone: 380-48-715-5792 Poltava Tsentralny Ukraine (Ïîëòàâà(?) Furmanova, 8-A Poltava, Dnepropetrovs'k, Ukraine Simferopol Ukraine (Ñèìôåðîïîëü) Fevralskaya 3 Simferopol', Crimea, Ukraine Sumy Tsentralny Ukraine (Ñóìû(?) Kirova 8 Sumy, Donets'k, Ukraine Zaporozhe Tsentralny Ukraine (Çàïîðîæüå) Ploscha Profspilok 5 Zaporizhzhia, Zaporozh'ye, Ukraine ---
http://forum.vgd.ru/155/18589/
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27 îêòÿáðÿ 2008 18:29 27 îêòÿáðÿ 2008 18:30 Lorelei íàïèñàë: [q] Ò.å. â Óêðàèíå ìèêðîôèëüìû ìîæíî çàêàçàòü è ïîñìîòðåòü? Ëþáûå (òå, ÷òî åñòü íà ñàéòå)?[/q]
ß áû Âàì ïîñîâåòîâàë ïîçâîíèòü â îäèí èç óêðàèíñêèõ Öåíòðîâ (ñì. ñïèñîê íèæå) è ñïðîñèòü íàïðÿìóþ. Î÷åíü õîðîøî, åñëè Âû ñîîáùèòå î ðåçóëüòàòàõ äðóãèì â ýòîé âåòêå. Family History Centers in Ukraine Bila Tserkva Ukraine Kyivs'ka, 13 Bila Tserkva, Kiev, Ukraine Bogatoye Ukraine Moskovs'Ka 37 Bahate, Bilohirs'Kyi Raion Ar Krym, Ukraine Borschahivs'kyi Ukraine Shota Rustaveli 16, 5th Fl Kyiv, L'viv, Ukraine Phone: 380-44-476-7421 Brovars'ka Ukraine Gagarina 27-A Brovary, Kyivs'ka Oblast,, Ukraine Cherkassy Ukraine Smilians'Ka, 1 Cherkasy, Cherkassy, Ukraine Phone: 380-472-321-374 Dnepropetrovsk Ukraine Pushkina 55 Dnipropetrovs'k, Dnepropetrovs'k, Ukraine Gorlovka Ukraine Bessonova 49 Horlivka, Donetsk Oblast, Ukraine Ivano-Frankivs'ka Ukraine Mazepy Str. 140-A Ivano-Frankivs'k, Ivano-Frankovsk, Ukraine Phone: 380-3422-40-233 Kharkivskyi Ukraine Almaatinskaya str. 2/1 Kyiv, Kiev, Ukraine Kherson Ukraine Ukrains'Ka 5 Kherson, Kherson, Ukraine L'viv Ukraine Shota Rustaveli 11 L'viv, L'viv, Ukraine Phone: 380-322-403-345 Lugansk Tsentralny Ukraine Robitnycha 25 Luhans'k, Lugansk, Ukraine Luts'ka Ukraine 8 Bereznia Str. 5 Luts'k, Volynia, Ukraine Phone: 380-3322-30347 Mariupol Tsentralny Ukraine B. Khmel'Nyts'Koho, 4-A Mariupol', Donetsk Oblast, Ukraine Phone: 380-629-310-533 Obolons'ka Ukraine Prosp. V. Poryka 13v, 2nd Fl Kyiv, Kyiv, Ukraine Odessa Ukraine Tsentralny Lanzheronovskay, 20/22 Odesa, Odessa, Ukraine Phone: 380-48-715-5792 Poltava Tsentralny Ukraine Furmanova, 8-A Poltava, Dnepropetrovs'k, Ukraine Simferopol Ukraine Fevralskaya 3 Simferopol', Crimea, Ukraine Sumy Tsentralny Ukraine Kirova 8 Sumy, Donets'k, Ukraine Zaporozhe Tsentralny Ukraine Ploscha Profspilok 5 Zaporizhzhia, Zaporozh'ye, Ukraine | | |
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27 îêòÿáðÿ 2008 18:31 Â îäíî âðåìÿ îòïèñàëèñü... | | |
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27 îêòÿáðÿ 2008 18:34 Lorelei íàïèñàë: [q] À â Ðîññèè ìîæíî çàêàçàòü ìèêðîôèëüìû óêðàèíñêèõ àðõèâîâ? [/q]
Ïî ïîâîäó òîãî, íå ñîñòàâëÿþò ëè âîåííîé òàéíû íà òåððèòîðèè Ðîññèè äàííûå ïî Óêðàèíå, îïÿòü-òàêè, ëó÷øå ñïðîñèòü íàïðÿìóþ ïî òåëåôîíó. È, îïÿòü æå, õîðîøî áû áûëî îá ýòî ïðîèíôîðìèðîâàòü âñåõ.  Kaliningrad Russia Prospekt Mira 82 Kaliningrad, Russia Kazan Russia Blyukhera St. 2 Kazan, Respublika Tatarstan, Russia Kolpino Russia Ul. Pavlovskaya 55A Kolpino, Russia Komsomolsky Russia Kommunisticheskaya str. 39 A Togliatti, Russia Krasnoyarsk Russia Tikhi St. 16 Krasnoyarsk, Russia Moscow Russia Central Sredniy Ovchinnikovskiy 14 Moscow, Russia Nizhegorodsky Tsentralny Russia Vrubelya Street # 1 Metro Sokol Moscow, Russia Phone: 7-495-721-9510 Novgorod Russia Zelenskovo 9-6 Novgorod, Russia Novosibirsk Russia Krasnly Prospect, 79/1 4th floor Novosibirsk, Russia Phone: 7-3832-90-9829 Orenburg Russia Orenburg, Orenburgskaya oblast, Russia Penza Russia Bagdanova str. 53B Penza, Russia Perm Russia Avitsionnaya Str. 5 Perm, Russia Phone: 7-3432-46-5626 Petrozavodsk Russia Ul. Varlamova 23A Petrozavodsk, Russia Pskov Russia Ul. Sovetskaya 79 Pskov, Russia Samara Avrory Russia Novo-Sadovaya str. 199 Samara, Russia Saratovsky Russia Tarhova 19-B Saratov, Russia Shakhty Russia Sovetskaya str. 137 Shakhty, Russia Sochi Russia ul. Severnaya 12, 4th floor Sochi, Russia Stavropol Russia Kominterna str. 5 Stavropol, Russia Tomsk Russia Per. 1905 Goda 6/3 Tomsk, Russia Phone: 7-3822-75-3351 Tyumen Tsentralny Russia Ul. Surgutskaya 11/3 Tyumen, Russia Ulan-Ude Russia Ul. Tolstogo 23A Ulan-Ude, Russia Phone: 7-3012-222-371 Volgograd Russia Deputatskaya 7 "A" Volgograd, Russia Vyborg Russia Primerskaya Shosse 1 Vyborg, Russia Phone: 7-812-783-3648 Yaroslavsky Russia Ul. Svobody 62-2-9 B Yaroslavl, Russia Yekaterinburg Russia Rozy Luxemburg St. 15 Yekaterinburg, Russia Phone: 7-3432-56-1469 Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk Russia Ul. Khabarovskaya 43 Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk, Russia | | |
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27 îêòÿáðÿ 2008 21:01Ðàáîòà íàä îøèáêàìè Ïî Êèåâó äîáðûå ëþäè äàëè óòî÷íåííóþ èíôîðìàöèþ:  ÖÃÈÀÊ åñòü 2 àïïàðàòà, ïîäàðåííûõ ìîðìîíàìè, äëÿ ïðîñìîòðà ìèêðîôèëüìîâ, ïðèíàäëåæàùèõ àðõèâó.
Íî ýòî âîâñå íå çíà÷èò, ÷òî ýòî 2 ñìîòðîâûõ ìåñòà, ãäå ìîæíî ðàáîòàòü ñ çàêàçàííûìè ó ìîðìîíîâ ïëåíêàìè.  | | |
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27 îêòÿáðÿ 2008 22:39 Lorelei
Îòâå÷àþ âàì, ïîòîìó ÷òî Mich_Glitch íåñåò ÷åïóõó, à ïî íåñêîëüêî ðàç ïîâòîðÿòü îäíî è òî æå ïðîñòî íåò âðåìåíè.
Ïîñìîòðåòü ìèêðîôèëüìû âû ìîæåòå çà ïðåäåëàìè Ðîññèè. Â Óêðàèíå âû òîæå íå ñìîæåòå èõ ïîñìîòðåòü. Íî, íàïðèìåð, â ñòðàíû Ïðèáàëòèêè, Ôèíëÿíäèþ, Ïîëüøó, Âåíãðèþ, Àðìåíèþ âû ìîæåòå èõ çàêàçàòü è ïîñìîòðåòü. Íó, åñòåñòâåííî è â ñòðàíàõ Åâðîïû è Àìåðèêè (êàê êîíòèíåíòîâ).
Òîò ñïèñîê, êîòîðûé âû ïðèâåëè, ýòî àäðåñà Öåíòðîâ Ñåìåéíîé èñòîðèè. Ààïàðàòîâ äëÿ ïðîñìîòðà ìèêðîôèëüìîâ â íèõ íåò. Ñêîðî íà÷íåòñÿ ïðîåêò èíäåêñèíã äëÿ ìèêðîôèëüìîâ, êîòîðûå áûëè ñäåëàíû â óêðàèíñêèõ àðõèâàõ. Íå òàê óæ äîëãî îñòàëîñü æäàòü.
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