FTDNA
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2 ÿíâàðÿ 2022 21:53 nt86 íàïèñàë: [q] îòñîðòèðîâàíû ëè â ýòîì ïðåäñòàâëåíèè õðîìîñîìû íà îòöîâñêóþ è ìàòåðèíñêóþ? Íó ò.å. âî âñåõ ïàðàõ îòöîâñêàÿ âñåãäà ïåðâàÿ íàïðèìåð? [/q]
Íåò è íåò. nt86 íàïèñàë: [q] È âîîáùå, ìîæíî ëè îïðåäåëèòü ïî ðåçóëüòàòàì àóòîñîìíîãî òåñòà, êàêàÿ õðîìîñîìà ÷üÿ?[/q]
23 îò ìàìû è 23 îò ïàïû. Òîëüêî ïî åäèíñòâåííîìó ñâîåìó òåñòó íåâîçìîæíî îïðåäåëèòü êàêîé ñíèï îò êàêîãî ðîäèòåëÿ èäåò. Ðåçóëüòàòû àóòîñîìíûõ òåñòîâ íåôàçèðîâàííûå. ×àñòè÷íîå ôàçèðîâàíèå èñïîëüçóåòñÿ âíóòðåííèìè ïðîãðàììàìè, èùóùèìè âàøèõ ñîâïàäåíöåâ. nt86 íàïèñàë: [q] Âîò òóò íàïðèìåð àâòîð ïðèâîäèò êàðòèíêó äëÿ ñâîåé áàáóøêè, ó êîòîðîé îäèí ðîäèòåëü èç Óåëüñà, à âòîðîé èç Èòàëèè, è äåéñòâèòåëüíî Southern Europe ó÷àñòêè ïî÷òè âî âñåõ ïàðàõ íàõîäÿòñÿ âî âòîðîé õðîìîñîìå.[/q]
Äëÿ òàêèõ ðàñêðàñîê è ðàñïðåäåëåíèé ïî ïðåäêîâûì ëèíèÿì íàäî ñîçäàòü äåðåâî íà ñàéòå FTDNA (èëè çàãðóçèòü äåðåâî ÷åðåç ôàéë GEDCOMM), à ïîòîì ïîäñîåäèíÿòü ÄÍÊ-ñîâïàäåíöåâ â ñâîå äåðåâî. Ïîòîì ïðîãðàììû FTDNA áóäóò ïåðåñ÷èòûâàòü ñîâïàäåíöåâ è îòìå÷àòü èõ êàê ñîâïàäåíöåâ ïî ëèíèè îòöà èëè ëèíèè ìàòåðè. Åñëè åñòü âîçìîæíîñòü, òî ñëåäóåò ïðîòåñòèðîâàòü ðîäèòåëåé, ÷òî ñèëüíî îáëåã÷èò òàêîå ôàçèðîâàíèå äàííûõ è ñîâïàäåíöåâ. Åñëè ðîäèòåëåé íåëüçÿ ïðîòåñòèðîâàòü, òî ìîæíî ïðîòåñòèðîâàòü íàèáîëåå ñòàðøèõ ðîäñòâåííèêîâ ïî ëèíèÿì ðîäèòåëåé, íî ðàñïåðåäåëåíèå áóäåò ìåíåå òî÷íûì (ò.å. íåêîòîðûå ñîâïàäåíöû íå áóäóò ðàçäåëåíû ïî ëèíèÿì ïîêà âû íå óñòàíîâèòå ñ íèìè ðîäñòâî èíûìè ñïîñîáàìè è íå îòìåòèòå ýòîãî â ñâîåì äåðåâå(. ---
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Ìåòðè÷åñêèå çàïèñè Ïîðå÷ñêîãî êîñò¸ëà (Ïîðå÷üå Ïàðý÷÷à Pariečė) 1906-1945 | | |
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5 ÿíâàðÿ 2022 0:14 Ìíå îòâåòèëè ñ FTDNA ïî ïîâîäó òåñòîâ è ïî÷åìó ñóõèå ùåòî÷êè ïîñòàâëÿþòñÿ ñåé÷àñ. È ÷òî ïèñàòü â ñîïðîâîäèòåëüíûõ áóìàãàõ.
Ìîæåò, êîìó-òî àêòóàëüíî.
If the received kits are brushes (see the attached photo) then they are the correct kits because we send dry swab kits with no liquids or vails to your country (Russian Federation) because of the country's customs restrictions.
The Customs Form is in the attachment, you can use it in shipping the samples with any shipping company.
The instructions for using are in the attachment too.
For confirmation, below is our full address:
Name: Family Tree DNA
Address: 1445 North Loop West Suite #820
Houston, TX 77008
United States, US
Phone #: (713)-868-1438
Note: you should not describe the shipment as Medical samples in the declaration papers because they are not medical or for medical or health purposes and they may face difficulty or obstacles in shipping with the companies and customs. You can use "Genealogy sample" or "Dry collection" or "Kit collected" or any other description (based on the shipping company list) that helps in sending.
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5 ÿíâàðÿ 2022 18:37 5 ÿíâàðÿ 2022 18:39  ñîâïàäåíèÿõ FTDNA íàøåë 5 ÷åëîâåê, ó êîòîðûõ ñîâïàäàåò ñî ìíîé îäèí è òîò æå ó÷àñòîê õðîìîñîìû äëèíîé 25 - 30 ñÌ, è äðóãèõ ñîâïàäàþùèõ ó÷àñòêîâ íåò. Ñòîèò ëè îæèäàòü, ÷òî ó íàñ âñåõ îáùèé äàëüíèé ðîäñòâåííèê, èëè ýòî âñå ðàâíî ìîæåò áûòü "ýòíîøóìîì"?
Èç ýòèõ 5 ÷åëîâåê ó äâóõ åñòü äåðåâüÿ, íî òàì íåèçâåñòíûå ìíå è íåïåðåñåêàþùèåñÿ ìåæäó ñîáîé ôàìèëèè. Êàêèå äåéñòâèÿ ïðåäïðèíÿòü, ïèñàòü èì âñåì â ëè÷êó?
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Èùó: Òðîïèíû - Êàðãàòñêèé è ×óëûìñêèé ðàéîíû Íîâîñèáèðñêîé îáëàñòè, Íèêîëàåâû - Êðóòèíñêèé ðàéîí Îìñêîé îáëàñòè, Ëàïøàêîâû, Êîáûëêèíû - Çàáàéêàëüå, Áåðêîâñêèå, Ãðåáåíþê - Äíåïðîïåòðîâñêàÿ îáëàñòü Óêðàèíû, Ñåâåðíûé Êàçàõñòàí, Áèøêåê | | |
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5 ÿíâàðÿ 2022 23:38 nt86 íàïèñàë: [q]  ñîâïàäåíèÿõ FTDNA íàøåë 5 ÷åëîâåê, ó êîòîðûõ ñîâïàäàåò ñî ìíîé îäèí è òîò æå ó÷àñòîê õðîìîñîìû äëèíîé 25 - 30 ñÌ, è äðóãèõ ñîâïàäàþùèõ ó÷àñòêîâ íåò. Ñòîèò ëè îæèäàòü, ÷òî ó íàñ âñåõ îáùèé äàëüíèé ðîäñòâåííèê, èëè ýòî âñå ðàâíî ìîæåò áûòü "ýòíîøóìîì"?
Èç ýòèõ 5 ÷åëîâåê ó äâóõ åñòü äåðåâüÿ, íî òàì íåèçâåñòíûå ìíå è íåïåðåñåêàþùèåñÿ ìåæäó ñîáîé ôàìèëèè. Êàêèå äåéñòâèÿ ïðåäïðèíÿòü, ïèñàòü èì âñåì â ëè÷êó?[/q]
25-30 ñÌ ýòî î÷åíü êîðîòêèé ó÷àñòîê, ðîäñòâî áóäåò î÷åíü äàëüíèì. Áåç ãëóáîêîãî èññëåäîâàíèÿ ñâîèõ ðîäÎâ âàì áóäåò î÷åíü ñëîæíî óñòàíîâèòü ðîäñòâåííûå ñâÿçè ñ ýòèìè ñîâïàäåíöàìè. ---
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Ñìîòðÿ íà íåå, äóìàåòñÿ ìíå, ÷òî ýòî ãàäàíèå íà êîôåéíîé ãóùå, òàê ëè ýòî? Òàê êàê ïî èõ íàðèñîâàííîìó ïóòè, âñå ñòðåëî÷êè ïðàêòè÷åñêè Ðîññèþ îáõîäÿò ñòîðîíîé, çàòðàãèâàÿ òîëüêî Áðÿíñêóþ îáëàñòü.
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