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Íà ñàéòå ÂÃÄ ñîáèðàþòñÿ ëþäè, óâëå÷åííûå ãåíåàëîãèåé, èñòîðèåé, ãåðàëüäèêîé è ò.ä. Çäåñü âû íàéäåòå ñîáåñåäíèêîâ, ýêñïåðòîâ, óìåëûõ ïîìîùíèêîâ â ïîèñêàõ ïðåäêîâ è ðîäñòâåííèêîâ. Âàì ïîäñêàæóò ãäå èñêàòü äîêóìåíòû î ïàâøèõ â áîÿõ è ïðîïàâøèõ áåç âåñòè, â êàêîé àðõèâ îáðàòèòüñÿ ïðè èññëåäîâàíèè ðîäîñëîâíîé ñâîåé ñåìüè, ïîìîãóò îïðåäåëèòü ïî ñòàðîé ôîòîãðàôèè ïðèíàäëåæíîñòü ê âîèíñêèì ÷àñòÿì, âåäîìñòâàì è ÷èíó. ÂÃÄ - ïîèñê ëþäåé â ïðîøëîì, íàñòîÿùåì è áóäóùåì!
Âíèç ⇊

"Ïîëòàâùèíà" è åå çàñåëåíèå, ãåíîãåîãðàôè÷åñêèé ïðîåêò

"Ïîëòàâùèíà" êàê ìåñòî ïåðåñåëåíèÿ êîçàêîâ è ïîñïîëèòûõ ñ Ïðàâîáåðåæíîé Óêðàèíû â XVII âåêå

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Ìîäåðàòîð: Lesla
borisovichi

borisovichi

Ñîîáùåíèé: 453
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2011 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 1173

Îáúÿâëåíèå

Äëÿ ó÷àñòèÿ â ãåíîãåîãðàôè÷åñêîì ïðîåêòå "Ïîëòàâùèíà è åå çàñåëåíèå" ïðèãëàøàþòñÿ âñå æåëàþùèå, ÷üè ïðåäêè ïðîèñõîäÿò ñ Ïîëòàâñêîé çåìëè. Ïîä "Ïîëòàâùèíîé" â äàííîì ñëó÷àå ñëåäóåò ïîíèìàòü òåððèòîðèþ Ïîëòàâñêîãî ïîëêà / Ïîëòàâñêîãî óåçäà, êóäà â XVII âåêå, ïî íåêîòîðûì ñâåäåíèÿì, ïåðåñåëÿëèñü êîçàêè è ïîñïîëèòûå Ïðàâîáåðåæíîé Óêðàèíû. Òàêæå îáðàùàþ âíèìàíèå ê ýòîé òåìå òåõ, ÷üè ïðåäêè ìîãóò ïðîèñõîäèòü ñ Áðàöëàâùèíû èëè Ïîäîëüÿ XVII âåêà, à òàêæå òåõ, êòî ñìîã âåðíóòüñÿ íàçàä äîìîé ñ Ïîëòàâùèíû â íà÷àëå XVIII âåêà.

Ñàìî îïðåäåëåíèå "Ïîëòàâùèíà" óæå óïîòðåáëÿëîñü â XVII âåêå, è íàäî ïîëàãàòü, îáîçíà÷àëî òåððèòîðèè âõîäèâøèå â Ïîëòàâñêèé ïîëê (óêð.) èëè óåçä (ðóññê.), êóäà âõîäèëè ñåëåíèÿ âäîëü ñðåäíåãî è íèæíåãî òå÷åíèÿ Âîðñêëû è åå ïðèòîêîâ.

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Ïèñüìî Àðõèìàíäðèòà Êèåâî-Ïå÷åðñêàãî ìîíàñòûðÿ Âàðëààìà ßñèíñêàãî ê ïîëêîâíèêó Ôåäîðó Æó÷åíêè,
â êîòîðîì ïðåäëàãàåò åìó êóïèòü „ â Ïîëòàâùèíè “ ìîíàñòûðñêèÿ èìåíèÿ -

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Îïèñàíèå äîêóìåíòîâ, õðàíèâøèõñÿ â Äèêàíüñêîì àðõèâå êíÿçÿ Ñ. Â. Êî÷óáåÿ (1606 - 1840), 1883ã., ¹1194
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Êóï÷àÿ êðåïîñòü, âûäàííàÿ êîçàêîì , Ïîëòàâñêèì æèòåëåì , Íèêèôîðîì Æîðíîâûì Âàñèëüþ Êî÷óáåþ ,
íà ïðîäàííûé åìó, çà 20 òàëåðîâ , ëåñ , ñîñòîÿùèé “ â Ïîëòàâùèíå ïîä Ëîêîùèíîþ “
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Îïèñàíèå äîêóìåíòîâ, õðàíèâøèõñÿ â Äèêàíüñêîì àðõèâå êíÿçÿ Ñ. Â. Êî÷óáåÿ (1606 - 1840), 1883ã., ¹1376
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"Êàçêà ïðî ñîëîì'ÿíîãî áè÷êà"

Ñóùåñòâóåò ìíåíèå, ÷òî áîëüøèíñòâî ðàññêàçîâ î ïåðåñåëåíèè æèòåëåé Ïðàâîáåðåæüÿ è çàñåëåíèè èìè òåððèòîðèè Ïîëòàâùèíû - íå áîëåå ÷åì êðàñèâàÿ ñêàçêà êðàåâåäîâ. Èñòîðèêîâ è èñòî÷íèêîâåäîâ ìîæíî ïîíÿòü, âåäü èñòîðè÷åñêèõ èñòî÷íèêîâ ïîäòâåðæäàþùèõ äàííûå ôàêòû ïåðåñåëåíèÿ ïðàêòè÷åñêè íåò. Íî…
Ãîâîðÿ ñëîâàìè èçâåñòíîé ñîâåòñêîé ïåñíè "Ìû ðîæäåíû, ÷òîá ñêàçêó ñäåëàòü áûëüþ" 101.gif


Öåëü è ðåçóëüòàòû ïðîåêòà

Íåîáõîäèìî ïîëó÷èòü äîñòàòî÷íóþ ñðàâíèòåëüíóþ áàçó ãàïëîòèïîâ, à òàêæå õàðàêòåðíûõ ãàïëîãðóïï ÄÍÊ è äðóãèõ õàðàêòåðíûõ ãåíåòè÷åñêèõ ïðèçíàêîâ äëÿ ïîäòâåðæäåíèÿ ìèãðàöèè æèòåëåé Ïðàâîáåðåæíîé Óêðàèíû íà òåððèòîðèþ Ïîëòàâùèíû.

Óæå ñóùåñòâóåò áîëåå ãëîáàëüíûé ïðîåêò "Ukraine DNA Project" http://www.familytreedna.com/public/ukraine/
Îáñóæäåíèå çäåñü http://forum.molgen.org/index.php/topic,4226.0.html

Äëÿ óäîáñòâà àíàëèçà è îáñóæäåíèÿ, ñîçäàí ýòîò ëîêàëüíûé ðåãèîíàëüíûé "Ïîëòàâùèíà è åå çàñåëåíèå"
Family Tree DNA "îäîáðèëî" ïðîåêò http://www.familytreedna.com/public/poltavaregion/


Êëþ÷åâûå ñëîâà

Ïîëòàâñêàÿ çåìëÿ, Ïîëòàâùèíà, Ïîëòàâñêèå ÷åðêàñû, Ëèòîâñêèå ÷åðêàñû, ëèòîâñêèå ëþäè, ñðåäíåå Ïîâîðñêëüå, Pultawa
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borisovichi

borisovichi

Ñîîáùåíèé: 453
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2011 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 1173

100% Orcadian VS 100% Ukrainian
Ê âîïðîñó èíòåðïðåòàöèè ðåçóëüòàòà Family Finder ðàçëè÷íûìè ýòíî-ïîïóëÿöèîííûìè êàëüêóëÿòîðàìè

Èíòåðåñíà "ðàñøèôðîâêà" àóòîñîì ìîåé áàáóøêè, âåðîÿòíîãî "ïîëíîãî óêðàèíöà" (100% Ukranian), ó êîòîðîé 2 äåäóøêè òî÷íî óêðàèíöû (ñàìûå äàëüíèå ïðåäêè: Ñîõàíü è Êàëüíèê èç Äèêàíüêè, êîí. 17 âåêà) è äâå áàáóøêè, ïðåäïîëîæèòåëüíî óðîæåíêè ññ. Íàäåæäà è Áàëÿñíîå Äèêàíüñêîãî ð-íà (2 ïîë. 19 âåêà).

Eurogenes K13 Admixture Proportions
This utility uses the Eurogenes K13 model (rev 21 Nov 2013), created by Davidski (Polako)

Population 13 population clusters.
North_Atlantic 29.08%
Baltic 43.24%
West_Med 12.40%
West_Asian 5.52%
East_Med 4.73%
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 2.09%
East_Asian 0.48%
Siberian 1.58%
Amerindian 0.65%
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.24%
Sub-Saharan -




GEDmatch.Com Oracle
This program is based on 'Oracle v1' by Dienekes Pontikos. His original program was developed as part of the Dodecad Ancestry Project.

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 1.89
2 Polish 2.98
3 Ukrainian_West 3.24
4 Russian 5.12
5 Ukrainian_Northeast 6.93
6 Belorussian 7.37
7 Kargopol_Russian 9.49
8 Estonian 10.27
9 Lithuanian 11.1
10 Southwest_Finnish 11.1
11 Finnish 11.67
12 Hungarian 11.85
13 Erzya 12.61
14 East_Finnish 12.81
15 Austrian 13.22
16 North_Swedish 16.01
17 Serbian 17.83
18 Swedish 20.49
19 German 20.91
20 Romanian 21.68


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.6% Ukrainian + 5.4% Norwegian @ 1.43
2 92.8% Ukrainian + 7.2% North_Swedish @ 1.44
3 94.5% Ukrainian + 5.5% Swedish @ 1.47
4 90.3% Ukrainian + 9.7% Southwest_Finnish @ 1.47
5 95.9% Ukrainian + 4.1% West_Scottish @ 1.49
6 95.6% Ukrainian + 4.4% Orcadian @ 1.49
7 95.6% Ukrainian + 4.4% Danish @ 1.49
8 95.8% Ukrainian + 4.2% Irish @ 1.5
9 96% Ukrainian + 4% Southwest_English @ 1.51
10 95.2% Ukrainian + 4.8% Dutch @ 1.51
11 95.9% Ukrainian + 4.1% Southeast_English @ 1.54
12 95.5% Ukrainian + 4.5% German @ 1.61
13 97.8% Ukrainian + 2.2% French_Basque @ 1.61
14 75.5% Ukrainian + 24.5% Polish @ 1.72
15 97.7% Ukrainian + 2.3% Southwest_French @ 1.72
16 97.3% Ukrainian + 2.7% French @ 1.74
17 98% Ukrainian + 2% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.75
18 98.2% Ukrainian + 1.8% Spanish_Aragon @ 1.75
19 94.4% Ukrainian + 5.6% Finnish @ 1.76
20 93.8% Ukrainian + 6.2% Estonian @ 1.77


Gedmatch.Com
Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle

This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
Revised: Dec 6, 2012

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ukrainian @ 2.636
2 Polish @ 3.448
3 Ukrainian_West @ 4.104
4 Russian @ 5.706
5 Ukrainian_Northeast @ 7.833
6 Belorussian @ 7.911
7 Kargopol_Russian @ 10.345
8 Estonian @ 11.238
9 Lithuanian @ 12.141
10 Southwest_Finnish @ 12.384

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Polish +50% Ukrainian @ 2.478
2 50% Ukrainian +50% Ukrainian @ 2.636
3 50% Polish +50% Russian @ 2.769
4 50% Ukrainian +50% Ukrainian_West @ 3.168
5 50% Polish +50% Ukrainian_West @ 3.219
6 50% Polish +50% Polish @ 3.448
7 50% Hungarian +50% Lithuanian @ 3.706
8 50% Russian +50% Ukrainian @ 3.742
9 50% Russian +50% Ukrainian_West @ 3.892
10 50% Austrian +50% Lithuanian @ 4.008

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Polish +25% Russian +25% Ukrainian @ 2.338
2 50% Ukrainian +25% Polish +25% Ukrainian @ 2.392
3 50% Polish +25% Ukrainian +25% Ukrainian @ 2.478
4 50% Ukrainian +25% Polish +25% Polish @ 2.478
5 50% Polish +25% Polish +25% Russian @ 2.478
6 50% Ukrainian +25% Polish +25% Russian @ 2.536
7 50% Lithuanian +25% Erzya +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.546
8 50% Ukrainian +25% Austrian +25% Lithuanian @ 2.554
9 50% Ukrainian +25% Hungarian +25% Lithuanian @ 2.568
10 50% Polish +25% Russian +25% Ukrainian_West @ 2.574

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Polish + Polish + Russian + Ukrainian @ 2.338
2 Polish + Ukrainian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 2.392
3 Austrian + Lithuanian + Russian + Ukrainian @ 2.426
4 Polish + Polish + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 2.478
5 Polish + Polish + Polish + Russian @ 2.478
6 Polish + Russian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 2.536
7 Erzya + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.546
8 Austrian + Lithuanian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 2.554
9 Hungarian + Lithuanian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 2.568
10 Polish + Polish + Russian + Ukrainian_West @ 2.574
11 Ukrainian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 2.636
12 Austrian + Estonian + Russian + Ukrainian @ 2.638
13 Hungarian + Lithuanian + Russian + Ukrainian @ 2.638
14 Austrian + Lithuanian + Russian + Ukrainian_West @ 2.646
15 Polish + Ukrainian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian_West @ 2.662
16 Austrian + Lithuanian + Polish + Russian @ 2.664
17 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + North_Italian @ 2.667
18 Austrian + Estonian + Russian + Russian @ 2.688
19 Estonian + Hungarian + Russian + Ukrainian @ 2.697
20 Polish + Russian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian_West @ 2.704


Gedmatch.Com
Eurogenes K13 Oracle-x Population Fitting

This program is based on Larry Smiser's Population Fitting spreadsheet.

179 populations found.


Pct. Calc. Option 2

1 Ukrainian 84.43%
2 Lithuanian 3.00%
3 West_Scottish 2.74%
4 East_Finnish 2.26%
5 French_Basque 1.94%
6 Mari 1.88%
7 Norwegian 1.44%
8 Russian 1.20%
9 Chamar 1.10%
10 Southwest_English 0.00%


Pct. Calc. Option 1

1 Ukrainian 66.23%
2 Lithuanian 15.00%
3 Russian 10.32%
4 French_Basque 5.26%
5 Southwest_Finnish 2.09%
6 Chamar 1.06%
7 Polish 0.01%
8 Ukrainian_West 0.01%
9 North_Italian 0.01%
10 Romanian 0.01%


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Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 1108
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 2668
Àëåêñàíäð, èíòåðåñíî!
À ÷òî òàêîå Option 1 è 2? Åñëè ìîæíî, îáúÿñíèòå ïîïóëÿðíî. )))
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Âñå ëè÷íûå äàííûå, ìîè è ìîåé ñåìüè, ðàçìåùåíû ìíîþ íà ñàéòå ñ ñîãëàñèÿ ðîäñòâåííèêîâ
×åðìåíñêèå (Êåðåíñê, Ñàðàòîâ), Ëóïåéêî/Ëóïåéêà (Ëèòâà, ÑØÀ), Ðåíêå è Âåíãëèíñêèå (Êèåâ, Ðàäîìûøëü), Êâÿòêîâñêèå (Ìèíñêàÿ ãóá), Åëîçèíû (Àðêàäàê)
borisovichi

borisovichi

Ñîîáùåíèé: 453
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2011 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 1173

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Óâàæàåìûì Srkz íàïèñàíû îòâåòû íà ÷àñòî çàäàâàåìûå âîïðîñû ïî àóòîñîìíûì ýòíî-êàëüêóëÿòîðàì ))
×àñòî çàäàâàåìûå âîïðîñû ïî àóòîñîìíûì ýòíî-êàëüêóëÿòîðàì

âîò âûäåðæêè íåêîòîðûõ èç íèõ
Àóòîñîìíûå ýòíî-êàëüêóëÿòîðû ïðåäíàçíà÷åíû äëÿ îïðåäåëåíèÿ ïðîèñõîæäåíèÿ òåñòèðóåìîãî íà îñíîâàíèè àíàëèçà åãî ãåíîìà. Îäíà èõ ðàçíîâèäíîñòü - êàëüêóëÿòîðû, äåéñòâóþùèå íà îñíîâàíèè àíàëèçà ñòàòèñòè÷åñêèõ çàêîíîìåðíîñòåé ðàñïðåäåëåíèÿ ñíèïîâ â ðàçíûõ ïîïóëÿöèÿõ.

Â: ß çàïóñòèë êàëüêóëÿòîð, îí ïîêàçàë ìíå, ÷òî ÿ íà 30% âîñòî÷íûé åâðîïååö, íà 40% çàïàäíûé, íà 15% ñðåäèçåìíîìîðåö. ×òî âñå ýòî îçíà÷àåò?
Î: Ýòî òàê íàçûâàåìûå ïðåäêîâûå êîìïîíåíòû. Îíè î÷åíü äðåâíèå, ïî áîëüøåé ÷àñòè èäóò åùå èç êàìåííîãî âåêà. Íàçâàíèÿ äàþòñÿ óñëîâíî, îáû÷íî ïî ðàéîíàì, ãäå êîìïîíåíò íàèáîëåå ðàñïðîñòðàíåí. Ñëåãêà óïðîùàÿ, ìîæíî ñêàçàòü, ÷òî ó áîëüøèíñòâà åâðîïåéöåâ íàñëåäñòâåííîñòü ñëîæåíà èç îäíèõ è òåõ æå êîìïîíåíòîâ, ðàçíèöà â èõ ñîîòíîøåíèè ìåæäó ñîáîé.


Â: À êàê îïðåäåëèòü áîëåå ñâåæåå ïðîèñõîæäåíèå, íå íà òûñÿ÷åëåòèÿ íàçàä?
Î: Ñðàâíèâàÿ ñâîè ðåçóëüòàòû ñ ðåçóëüòàòàìè äðóãèõ ëþäåé. ×åì áîëåå îíè ïîõîæè, òåì áëèæå âû ê íàðîäó, èç êîòîðîãî ïðîèñõîäÿò ýòè ëþäè. Äëÿ óïðîùåíèÿ ïðîöåññà ñîçäàíû ñïåöèàëüíûå èíñòðóìåíòû ïîä íàçâàíèåì "Îðàêóëû".  íèõ ñîáðàíû íàèáîëåå òèïè÷íûå ðåçóëüòàòû äëÿ ðàçíûõ ïîïóëÿöèé (íàðîäîâ), ýòè ðåçóëüòàòû ñðàâíèâàþòñÿ ñ âàøèìè è ïîêàçûâàþòñÿ íàèáîëåå áëèçêèå âàðèàíòû.


Îðàêóëû ïðèâîäÿò âîçìîæíûå êîìáèíàöèè ïðåäêîâ, êîòîðûå ìîãëè äàòü ðåçóëüòàò, áëèçêèé ê âàøåìó. Îáðàòèòå âíèìàíèå, ÷òî ê îäíîìó è òîìó æå ðåçóëüòàòó ìîæíî ïðèéòè ðàçíûìè ïóòÿìè, çäåñü ïðèâîäèòñÿ ëèøü ñïèñîê íàèáîëåå âåðîÿòíûõ âàðèàíòîâ

Â: ×òî òàêîå Oracle-4, Oracle-X?
Î: Îðàêóë ÷åòûðåõ ïðåäêîâ ïûòàåòñÿ ïîäîáðàòü íàèáîëåå áëèçêèå ê âàì ñî÷åòàíèÿ ñíà÷àëà äâóõ ïðåäêîâ (ïàïà+ìàìà), çàòåì òðåõ (íàïðèìåð, ïàïà + äåäóøêà è áàáóøêà ïî ìàìå), çàòåì ÷åòûðåõ (äâà äåäóøêè è äâå áàáóøêè). Oracle-X ïûòàåòñÿ ðàçëîæèòü âàøó íàñëåäñòâåííîñòü íà íåîïðåäåëåííîå ÷èñëî ïðåäêîâ


À Option 1 è Option 2 ýòî ðàçíûå óñëîâèÿ äëÿ ñòàðòà àëãîðèòìà, òàê êàê "ðàçëîæèòü íà ÷àñòè" ðåçóëüòàò êàëüêóëÿòîðà ìîæíî íåñêîëüêèìè ðàâíîçíà÷íûìè ìåòîäàìè (ñïàñèáî Srkz çà ðàçúÿñíåíèÿ )))


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Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 1108
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 2668
Àëåêñàíäð, ñïàñèáî Âàì è Srkz.

Âîïðîñ.
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Îáðàòèòå âíèìàíèå, ÷òî ê îäíîìó è òîìó æå ðåçóëüòàòó ìîæíî ïðèéòè ðàçíûìè ïóòÿìè, çäåñü ïðèâîäèòñÿ ëèøü ñïèñîê íàèáîëåå âåðîÿòíûõ âàðèàíòîâ
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Òî åñòü ýòî íåìíîæêî âèëàìè ïî âîäå? confused.gif
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Âñå ëè÷íûå äàííûå, ìîè è ìîåé ñåìüè, ðàçìåùåíû ìíîþ íà ñàéòå ñ ñîãëàñèÿ ðîäñòâåííèêîâ
×åðìåíñêèå (Êåðåíñê, Ñàðàòîâ), Ëóïåéêî/Ëóïåéêà (Ëèòâà, ÑØÀ), Ðåíêå è Âåíãëèíñêèå (Êèåâ, Ðàäîìûøëü), Êâÿòêîâñêèå (Ìèíñêàÿ ãóá), Åëîçèíû (Àðêàäàê)
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Äíèïðî (áûâø. Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê)
Ñîîáùåíèé: 7047
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 4362
Òàê âñÿ ãåíåòèêà åùå òîëüêî â ñòàäèè ñòàíîâëåíèÿ, êàëüêóëÿòîðû òîæå ïîñòîÿííî äîðàáàòûâàþòñÿ âìåñòå ñ ðîñòîì áàç ïðîòåñòèðîâàííûõ. 3 ãîäà íàçàä, êîãäà ÿ ñäåëàëà ïåðâûå òåñòû, âñå ýòî áûëî çíà÷èòåëüíî ïðèìèòèâíåå, ÷åðåç 3 ãîäà íàâåðíÿêà áóäåò çíà÷èòåëüíî òî÷íåå
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Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
Êëûøêèí Âëàñåíêî Ñàêóíîâ Êó÷åðÿâåíêî (Ãëóõîâ)
Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.)
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óøëà èç æèçíè 13.07.2019 ã. Ñâåòëàÿ ïàìÿòü

gach

Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 1108
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 2668
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Êàòÿ, à Âû ìîæåòå ñåé÷àñ ñêîððåêòèðîâàòü ñâîè äàííûå 3-ëåòíåé äàâíîñòè? Èëè äëÿ ýòîãî íàäî çàíîâî âñþ ïðîöåäóðó ïðîõîäèòü?
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Âñå ëè÷íûå äàííûå, ìîè è ìîåé ñåìüè, ðàçìåùåíû ìíîþ íà ñàéòå ñ ñîãëàñèÿ ðîäñòâåííèêîâ
×åðìåíñêèå (Êåðåíñê, Ñàðàòîâ), Ëóïåéêî/Ëóïåéêà (Ëèòâà, ÑØÀ), Ðåíêå è Âåíãëèíñêèå (Êèåâ, Ðàäîìûøëü), Êâÿòêîâñêèå (Ìèíñêàÿ ãóá), Åëîçèíû (Àðêàäàê)
borisovichi

borisovichi

Ñîîáùåíèé: 453
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2011 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 1173

gach íàïèñàë:
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Òî åñòü ýòî íåìíîæêî âèëàìè ïî âîäå?
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Íó ïî÷åìó æå. Âûøå ðåçóëüòàòû ìîåé áàáóøêè - âñå äîâîëüíî òàêè â îáùåì ñîîòâåòñòâóåò , òåì áîëåå ÷òî ÿ íå çíàþ íàâåðíÿêà î ïðîèñõîæäåíèè äâóõ åå áàáóøåê. Íî åñòü âåðîÿòíîñòü òîãî ÷òî ïðåäêè â ñåð 17 âåêà ïðèøëè ñ Ïðàâîáåðåæíîé Óêðàèíû

Mixed Mode Population Sharing

75.5% Ukrainian + 24.5% Polish @ 1.72
Ýòî çíà÷èò, ÷òî åñëè ñîåäèíèòü íà êàðòå Óêðàèíó è Ïîëüøó, òî âû íà ýòîé ëèíèè ïðèìåðíî íà ðàññòîÿíèè 3/4 îò Ïîëüøè, 1/4 îò Óêðàèíû, òî åñòü êàëüêóëÿòîð ïîçèöèîíèðóåò âàñ â Ïðàâîáåðåæíîé Óêðàèíå. 101.gif


Ìíå ïîíðàâèëîñü êàê êòî-òî çàìåòèë, ÷òî êàëüêóëÿòîð îïåðèðóåò ÷èñëàìè è íå çíàåò âàøåé ðîäîñëîâíîé.
À Âû çíàåòå, ïîýòîìó ìîæåòå óìåëî èíòåðïðåòèðîâàòü ñâîé ðåçóëüòàò


Âîò åùå ðåçóëüòàòû ìîåé áàáóøêè ïî îäíîìó èç ïîñëåäíèõ ýòíî-ïîïóëÿöèîííûõ êàëüêóëÿòîðîâ MDLP K27

Ðàñêëàäêà ïî ïðåäêîâûì êîìïîíåíòàì:
0.00% Nilotic-Omotic
0.71% Ancestral-South-Indian
50.19% North-European-Baltic
2.43% Uralic
0.13% Australo-Melanesian
0.10% East-Siberean
0.52% Ancestral-Yayoi
11.09% Caucasian-Near-Easte
0.00% Tibeto-Burman
0.00% Austronesian
0.00% Central-African-Pygmean
0.74% Central-African-Hunter-Gatherers
0.00% Nilo-Saharian
1.51% North-African
5.24% Gedrosia-Caucasian
0.28% Cushitic
0.00% Congo-Pygmean
0.00% Bushmen
0.19% South-Meso-Amerindian
15.13% South-West-European
0.16% North-Amerindian
1.71% Arabic
0.42% North-Circumpolar
1.37% Kalash
0.19% Papuan-Australian
7.88% Baltic-Finnic
0.00% Bantu

Ãåîãðàôè÷åñêîå ðàñïðîñòðàíåíèå êîìïîíåíòîâ (ñïàñèáî óâàæàåìîìó SrKz)


[ Èçîáðàæåíèå íà ñòîðîííåì ñàéòå: slq2png_5054533_10131006.png ]

[ Èçîáðàæåíèå íà ñòîðîííåì ñàéòå: SohanM3117_8810857_10130948.png ]


4 Ancestors Oracle
Version 0.97 by Alexandr Burnashev
27 components mode
47 populations found

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ukrainian_East_R3 @ 2,830389
2 Ukrainian_R2 @ 3,386637
3 Russian_South_R3 @ 3,493905
4 Russian_South_West_R7 @ 3,951052
5 Polish_D @ 4,087442
6 Russian_Center @ 5,210069
7 Polish-Belarusian_R2 @ 6,224699
8 Russian_Meshtchyora_R5 @ 6,442314
9 Belarusian_D @ 7,043741
10 Moksha_R3 @ 8,693083
11 Russian_Yaroslavl_R2 @ 9,296268
12 Erzya_R4 @ 9,585894
13 Russian_Pskov_R3 @ 9,730505
14 Slovak_D @ 11,119287
15 Russian_Vyatka_R2 @ 12,007851
16 Balt_R2 @ 12,02601
17 Russian_North_R8 @ 12,696766
18 Carpathian_R1 @ 13,440395
19 Russian_Perm_R3 @ 15,620003
20 Russian_Ladoga_D @ 17,548862
21 Polish_German_R1 @ 17,620114
22 Mishar_R2 @ 18,191287
23 Estonian_D @ 18,904972
24 Tatar_Bashkiria_R3 @ 19,171527
25 Tatar_R5 @ 20,336963
26 Komi_R1 @ 22,2674
27 German_D @ 22,880128
28 Norwegian_R4 @ 23,251442
29 Serbian_R1 @ 24,34761
30 Permyak_D @ 24,533815
31 English_R2 @ 26,015059
32 Udmurt_R1 @ 27,275125
33 British_German_R1 @ 28,285559
34 Irish_Scottish_R2 @ 28,626448
35 Mansi_D @ 28,720664
36 Chuvash_R3 @ 28,917464
37 Bashkir_R3 @ 30,626725
38 Mari_R1 @ 33,501813
39 Romanian_D @ 34,826025
40 Finnish_South_West_R2 @ 39,484052
41 Finnish_Inkeri_R2 @ 44,313627
42 Ashkenazi_R3 @ 45,301584
43 Sicilian_R2 @ 47,504594
44 Finnish_North_East_R2 @ 50,310645
45 Selkup_R1 @ 53,910861
46 Kazakh_R2 @ 54,352847
47 Korean_R1 @ 80,3178

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2 @ 1,97309
2 Ukrainian_East_R3+Polish_D @ 2,230492
3 Russian_South_R3+Polish_D @ 2,251828
4 Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_East_R3 @ 2,366751
5 Ukrainian_R2+Polish-Belarusian_R2 @ 2,457875
6 Ukrainian_R2+Russian_South_R3 @ 2,65555
7 Ukrainian_R2+Belarusian_D @ 2,774185
8 Ukrainian_R2+Russian_South_West_R7 @ 2,786811
9 Ukrainian_East_R3+Ukrainian_East_R3 @ 2,830389
10 Russian_South_West_R7+Ukrainian_East_R3 @ 2,896405
11 Balt_R2+Slovak_D @ 2,897499
12 Ukrainian_R2+Polish_D @ 2,953549
13 Russian_Center+Ukrainian_R2 @ 3,070313
14 Russian_South_R3+Ukrainian_East_R3 @ 3,095891
15 Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_R3 @ 3,141352
16 Russian_South_West_R7+Polish_D @ 3,362566
17 Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_R2 @ 3,386637
18 Russian_Center+Ukrainian_East_R3 @ 3,462645
19 Belarusian_D+Slovak_D @ 3,491085
20 Russian_South_R3+Russian_South_R3 @ 3,493905
21 Carpathian_R1+Russian_Pskov_R3 @ 3,504016
22 Polish-Belarusian_R2+Slovak_D @ 3,587161
23 Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Ukrainian_R2 @ 3,680293
24 Russian_Center+Russian_South_R3 @ 3,690603
25 Polish-Belarusian_R2+Polish_D @ 3,696686
26 Russian_Center+Polish_D @ 3,834652
27 Russian_Pskov_R3+Slovak_D @ 3,878053
28 Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Ukrainian_East_R3 @ 3,904376
29 Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_West_R7 @ 3,951052
30 Carpathian_R1+Belarusian_D @ 3,952279
31 Polish-Belarusian_R2+Ukrainian_East_R3 @ 3,971334
32 Ukrainian_R2+Russian_Pskov_R3 @ 4,055295
33 Belarusian_D+Polish_D @ 4,085546
34 Polish_D+Polish_D @ 4,087442
35 Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Russian_South_R3 @ 4,107796
36 Polish-Belarusian_R2+Russian_South_R3 @ 4,22823
37 Belarusian_D+Ukrainian_East_R3 @ 4,302348
38 Russian_Meshtchyora_R5+Polish_D @ 4,355226
39 Polish-Belarusian_R2+Russian_South_West_R7 @ 4,362
40 Belarusian_D+Russian_South_R3 @ 4,486633
41 Russian_Center+Russian_South_West_R7 @ 4,526104
42 Carpathian_R1+Polish-Belarusian_R2 @ 4,573489
43 Moksha_R3+Ukrainian_East_R3 @ 4,696451
44 Ukrainian_R2+Balt_R2 @ 4,793581
45 Ukrainian_R2+Russian_Yaroslavl_R2 @ 4,864464
46 Moksha_R3+Russian_South_R3 @ 4,898504
47 Belarusian_D+Russian_South_West_R7 @ 4,911415

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Balt_R2 +25% Carpathian_R1 +25% Slovak_D @ 1,569707
2 50% Ukrainian_R2 +25% Ukrainian_R2 +25% Balt_R2 @ 1,859219
3 50% Ukrainian_R2 +25% Polish-Belarusian_R2 +25% Polish_D @ 1,966447
4 50% Ukrainian_R2 +25% Ukrainian_R2 +25% Belarusian_D @ 1,967558
5 50% Ukrainian_R2 +25% Polish-Belarusian_R2 +25% Ukrainian_East_R3 @ 1,979761
6 50% Ukrainian_East_R3 +25% Balt_R2 +25% Slovak_D @ 1,986577
7 50% Ukrainian_East_R3 +25% Ukrainian_R2 +25% Polish_D @ 1,986732
8 50% Russian_South_R3 +25% Balt_R2 +25% Slovak_D @ 1,996478
9 50% Ukrainian_R2 +25% Ukrainian_R2 +25% Polish-Belarusian_R2 @ 1,997121
10 50% Ukrainian_R2 +25% Belarusian_D +25% Ukrainian_East_R3 @ 2,018212
11 50% Ukrainian_R2 +25% Belarusian_D +25% Polish_D @ 2,022996
12 50% Belarusian_D +25% Carpathian_R1 +25% Polish_D @ 2,101642
13 50% Ukrainian_R2 +25% Balt_R2 +25% Slovak_D @ 2,102057
14 50% Balt_R2 +25% Serbian_R1 +25% Polish_D @ 2,103701
15 50% Ukrainian_East_R3 +25% Belarusian_D +25% Slovak_D @ 2,107209
16 50% Ukrainian_East_R3 +25% Polish-Belarusian_R2 +25% Slovak_D @ 2,144624
17 50% Ukrainian_R2 +25% Polish-Belarusian_R2 +25% Russian_South_R3 @ 2,155631
18 50% Ukrainian_East_R3 +25% Ukrainian_East_R3 +25% Polish_D @ 2,15571
19 50% Polish_D +25% Carpathian_R1 +25% Balt_R2 @ 2,161402
20 50% Ukrainian_East_R3 +25% Carpathian_R1 +25% Balt_R2 @ 2,162688
21 50% Ukrainian_R2 +25% Belarusian_D +25% Russian_South_R3 @ 2,16305
22 50% Belarusian_D +25% Ukrainian_R2 +25% Carpathian_R1 @ 2,168051
23 50% Russian_South_R3 +25% Ukrainian_R2 +25% Polish_D @ 2,172588
24 50% Polish-Belarusian_R2 +25% Ukrainian_R2 +25% Slovak_D @ 2,178921
25 50% Polish-Belarusian_R2 +25% Ukrainian_East_R3 +25% Slovak_D @ 2,181939
26 50% Russian_South_R3 +25% Belarusian_D +25% Slovak_D @ 2,186124
27 50% Ukrainian_R2 +25% Ukrainian_R2 +25% Russian_Pskov_R3 @ 2,190826
28 50% Ukrainian_R2 +25% Polish-Belarusian_R2 +25% Russian_South_West_R7 @ 2,205852
29 50% Belarusian_D +25% Carpathian_R1 +25% Ukrainian_East_R3 @ 2,207242
30 50% Polish_D +25% Russian_South_R3 +25% Ukrainian_East_R3 @ 2,211727
31 50% Ukrainian_East_R3 +25% Russian_South_R3 +25% Polish_D @ 2,221076
32 50% Ukrainian_R2 +25% Balt_R2 +25% Polish_D @ 2,221084
33 50% Polish-Belarusian_R2 +25% Russian_South_R3 +25% Slovak_D @ 2,248116
34 50% Russian_South_R3 +25% Polish-Belarusian_R2 +25% Slovak_D @ 2,276312
35 50% Belarusian_D +25% Ukrainian_R2 +25% Slovak_D @ 2,288045
36 50% Ukrainian_R2 +25% Ukrainian_East_R3 +25% Polish_D @ 2,305747
37 50% Balt_R2 +25% Ukrainian_R2 +25% Serbian_R1 @ 2,316892
38 50% Ukrainian_East_R3 +25% Russian_South_West_R7 +25% Polish_D @ 2,338609
39 50% Russian_South_R3 +25% Ukrainian_East_R3 +25% Polish_D @ 2,341286
40 50% Ukrainian_R2 +25% Russian_South_R3 +25% Polish_D @ 2,353946
41 50% Ukrainian_East_R3 +25% Ukrainian_R2 +25% Russian_South_West_R7 @ 2,356246
42 50% Polish-Belarusian_R2 +25% Carpathian_R1 +25% Polish_D @ 2,356257
43 50% Ukrainian_R2 +25% Belarusian_D +25% Russian_South_West_R7 @ 2,368242
44 50% Polish_D +25% Ukrainian_R2 +25% Russian_South_R3 @ 2,38757
45 50% Balt_R2 +25% Ukrainian_East_R3 +25% Serbian_R1 @ 2,389186
46 50% Belarusian_D +25% Carpathian_R1 +25% Russian_South_R3 @ 2,391722
47 50% Ukrainian_East_R3 +25% Russian_Pskov_R3 +25% Slovak_D @ 2,398929

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2+Balt_R2+Slovak_D @ 1,569707
2 Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2+Ukrainian_East_R3+Polish_D @ 1,681793
3 Ukrainian_R2+Balt_R2+Russian_South_R3+Slovak_D @ 1,733691
4 Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2+Russian_South_R3+Polish_D @ 1,773738
5 Ukrainian_R2+Balt_R2+Ukrainian_East_R3+Slovak_D @ 1,77423
6 Ukrainian_R2+Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2+Polish-Belarusian_R2 @ 1,815473
7 Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_R2+Balt_R2 @ 1,859219
8 Ukrainian_R2+Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2+Belarusian_D @ 1,888811
9 Balt_R2+Russian_South_R3+Ukrainian_East_R3+Slovak_D @ 1,958324
10 Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_R2+Polish-Belarusian_R2+Polish_D @ 1,966447
11 Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_R2+Belarusian_D @ 1,967558
12 Carpathian_R1+Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2+Balt_R2 @ 1,97309
13 Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_R2+Polish-Belarusian_R2+Ukrainian_East_R3 @ 1,979761
14 Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2+Polish-Belarusian_R2+Polish_D @ 1,981129
15 Balt_R2+Ukrainian_East_R3+Ukrainian_East_R3+Slovak_D @ 1,986577
16 Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_East_R3+Ukrainian_East_R3+Polish_D @ 1,986732
17 Ukrainian_R2+Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2+Polish_D @ 1,988185
18 Balt_R2+Russian_South_R3+Russian_South_R3+Slovak_D @ 1,996478
19 Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_R2+Polish-Belarusian_R2 @ 1,997121
20 Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2+Russian_South_West_R7+Polish_D @ 2,012692
21 Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_R2+Belarusian_D+Ukrainian_East_R3 @ 2,018212
22 Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_R2+Belarusian_D+Polish_D @ 2,022996
23 Ukrainian_R2+Russian_South_R3+Ukrainian_East_R3+Polish_D @ 2,049987
24 Ukrainian_R2+Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2+Ukrainian_East_R3 @ 2,064506
25 Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2+Belarusian_D+Slovak_D @ 2,079018
26 Ukrainian_R2+Polish-Belarusian_R2+Ukrainian_East_R3+Polish_D @ 2,080321
27 Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2+Russian_South_West_R7+Ukrainian_East_R3 @ 2,100309
28 Carpathian_R1+Belarusian_D+Belarusian_D+Polish_D @ 2,101642
29 Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_R2+Balt_R2+Slovak_D @ 2,102057
30 Balt_R2+Balt_R2+Serbian_R1+Polish_D @ 2,103701
31 Belarusian_D+Ukrainian_East_R3+Ukrainian_East_R3+Slovak_D @ 2,107209
32 Ukrainian_R2+Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2+Russian_South_West_R7 @ 2,107831
33 Belarusian_D+Russian_South_R3+Ukrainian_East_R3+Slovak_D @ 2,11626
34 Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2+Belarusian_D+Polish_D @ 2,130575
35 Polish-Belarusian_R2+Ukrainian_East_R3+Ukrainian_East_R3+Slovak_D @ 2,144624
36 Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2+Polish-Belarusian_R2+Slovak_D @ 2,152766
37 Carpathian_R1+Polish-Belarusian_R2+Belarusian_D+Polish_D @ 2,155455
38 Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_R2+Polish-Belarusian_R2+Russian_South_R3 @ 2,155631
39 Ukrainian_East_R3+Ukrainian_East_R3+Ukrainian_East_R3+Polish_D @ 2,15571
40 Ukrainian_R2+Polish-Belarusian_R2+Belarusian_D+Slovak_D @ 2,157079
41 Ukrainian_R2+Balt_R2+Polish-Belarusian_R2+Slovak_D @ 2,158796
42 Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2+Polish_D+Polish_D @ 2,161402
43 Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2+Ukrainian_East_R3+Ukrainian_East_R3 @ 2,162688
44 Balt_R2+Russian_South_R3+Slovak_D+Polish_D @ 2,16282
45 Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_R2+Belarusian_D+Russian_South_R3 @ 2,16305
46 Ukrainian_R2+Carpathian_R1+Belarusian_D+Belarusian_D @ 2,168051
47 Ukrainian_R2+Polish-Belarusian_R2+Russian_South_R3+Polish_D @ 2,171711
48 Ukrainian_R2+Russian_South_R3+Russian_South_R3+Polish_D @ 2,172588
49 Ukrainian_R2+Polish-Belarusian_R2+Polish-Belarusian_R2+Slovak_D @ 2,178921
50 Polish-Belarusian_R2+Russian_South_R3+Ukrainian_East_R3+Slovak_D @ 2,181589
51 Polish-Belarusian_R2+Polish-Belarusian_R2+Ukrainian_East_R3+Slovak_D @ 2,181939
52 Carpathian_R1+Russian_Pskov_R3+Balt_R2+Slovak_D @ 2,185621
53 Belarusian_D+Russian_South_R3+Russian_South_R3+Slovak_D @ 2,186124
54 Russian_Center+Ukrainian_R2+Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2 @ 2,18871
55 Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_R2+Russian_Pskov_R3 @ 2,190826
56 Ukrainian_R2+Belarusian_D+Ukrainian_East_R3+Polish_D @ 2,196423
57 Russian_Center+Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2+Polish_D @ 2,198348
58 Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_R2+Polish-Belarusian_R2+Russian_South_West_R7 @ 2,205852
59 Carpathian_R1+Belarusian_D+Belarusian_D+Ukrainian_East_R3 @ 2,207242
60 Russian_South_R3+Ukrainian_East_R3+Polish_D+Polish_D @ 2,211727
61 Ukrainian_R2+Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2+Russian_South_R3 @ 2,217792
62 Russian_South_R3+Ukrainian_East_R3+Ukrainian_East_R3+Polish_D @ 2,221076
63 Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_R2+Balt_R2+Polish_D @ 2,221084
64 Polish-Belarusian_R2+Belarusian_D+Ukrainian_East_R3+Slovak_D @ 2,221955
65 Ukrainian_East_R3+Ukrainian_East_R3+Polish_D+Polish_D @ 2,230492
66 Polish-Belarusian_R2+Polish-Belarusian_R2+Russian_South_R3+Slovak_D @ 2,248116
67 Russian_South_R3+Russian_South_R3+Polish_D+Polish_D @ 2,251828
68 Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_R3 @ 2,25274
69 Ukrainian_R2+Belarusian_D+Russian_South_R3+Polish_D @ 2,256364
70 Polish-Belarusian_R2+Belarusian_D+Russian_South_R3+Slovak_D @ 2,260214
71 Balt_R2+Ukrainian_East_R3+Slovak_D+Polish_D @ 2,271277
72 Carpathian_R1+Polish-Belarusian_R2+Belarusian_D+Ukrainian_East_R3 @ 2,274396
73 Polish-Belarusian_R2+Russian_South_R3+Russian_South_R3+Slovak_D @ 2,276312
74 Ukrainian_R2+Russian_South_West_R7+Ukrainian_East_R3+Polish_D @ 2,283811
75 Ukrainian_R2+Belarusian_D+Belarusian_D+Slovak_D @ 2,288045
76 Russian_Center+Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2+Ukrainian_East_R3 @ 2,289948
77 Ukrainian_R2+Carpathian_R1+Polish-Belarusian_R2+Belarusian_D @ 2,296158
78 Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_East_R3+Polish_D @ 2,305747
79 Ukrainian_R2+Carpathian_R1+Russian_Pskov_R3+Polish-Belarusian_R2 @ 2,315394
80 Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2+Russian_South_R3+Ukrainian_East_R3 @ 2,316114
81 Ukrainian_R2+Balt_R2+Balt_R2+Serbian_R1 @ 2,316892
82 Ukrainian_R2+Carpathian_R1+Russian_Pskov_R3+Belarusian_D @ 2,322101
83 Ukrainian_R2+Russian_South_West_R7+Russian_South_R3+Polish_D @ 2,33399
84 Russian_South_West_R7+Ukrainian_East_R3+Ukrainian_East_R3+Polish_D @ 2,338609
85 Russian_South_R3+Russian_South_R3+Ukrainian_East_R3+Polish_D @ 2,341286
86 Ukrainian_R2+Carpathian_R1+Russian_Pskov_R3+Balt_R2 @ 2,344494
87 Ukrainian_R2+Balt_R2+Russian_South_West_R7+Slovak_D @ 2,345694
88 Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_R2+Russian_South_R3+Polish_D @ 2,353946
89 Carpathian_R1+Balt_R2+Polish-Belarusian_R2+Ukrainian_East_R3 @ 2,353968
90 Ukrainian_R2+Russian_South_West_R7+Ukrainian_East_R3+Ukrainian_East_R3 @ 2,356246
91 Carpathian_R1+Polish-Belarusian_R2+Polish-Belarusian_R2+Polish_D @ 2,356257
92 Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_East_R3+Ukrainian_East_R3 @ 2,366751
93 Ukrainian_R2+Ukrainian_R2+Belarusian_D+Russian_South_West_R7 @ 2,368242
94 Russian_Pskov_R3+Russian_South_R3+Ukrainian_East_R3+Slovak_D @ 2,380316



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