ÄÍÊ-ïîñèäåëêè
Ðàçãîâîðû î ÄÍÊ è îáî âñåì, ÷òî ñ ýòèì ñâÿçàíî
Åëåíà Àëåêñàíäðîâíà Ñîîáùåíèé: 1649 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1164 | Íàâåðõ ##
4 èþíÿ 2013 10:35 4 èþíÿ 2013 10:37 Ïî FTDNA
Äâà ìèíóñà:
1. áàçà ìåíüøå.
(Ñî âðåìåíåì ìîæíî â îáùóþ ïîìåñòèòü. Íî ñåé÷àñ êàêèå-òî ïðîáëåìû áûëè ó ñàéòà. Èçâèíÿëèñü. Äóìàþ ïîçæå èñïðàâÿò).
2.äåíåã èìåííî çà ýòîò òåñò òàì áåðóò áîëüøå.
Åñòü è äâà ïëþñà:
1. Âàø îáðàçåö â FTDNA õðàíÿò 25 ëåò.
Çà ýòî âðåìÿ ìîæíî äîçàêàçûâàòü ëþáûå èõ íîâøåñòâà è òåñòû.
2. Êàê óæå ãîâîðèëà, ïî Y è mt îíè âïåðåäè ïëàíåòû âñåé (èëè ïî÷òè âñåé, çà äîñòóïíóþ öåíó).
Ïîýòîìó, òàì áóäåò, íå êàê â 23andMe, òîëüêî ãðóïïà, íî è äàëüøå ìîæíî - âñå èìåþùèåñÿ ïîäãðóïïû ñäåëàòü. Îñîáåííî ïî Y -õðîìîñîìå óâèäåòü âñå çíà÷åíèÿ ìàðêåðîâ (÷àñòåé õðîìîñîìû).
Âñòóïèòü â ñîîáùåñòâà (ïî ñòðàíàì, ãðóïïàì è èíòåðåñàì) è ïîëó÷èòü ïîëíóþ êîíñóëüòàöèþ è ó ìîäåðíèçàòîðîâ è íà ñàéòå Ìîëãåí.
Ïðè÷èñëèòü ñåáÿ ê äðåâó è óçíàòü êîãäà ó Âàñ áûë îáùèé ïðåäîê ñ íàðîäîì, äàæå äðóãîé ãðóïïû.
Î÷åíü èíòåðåñíî!
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27 èþíÿ 2013 0:57 Äóìàþ, ýòî áóäåò ïîëåçíî ðàçìåñòèòü-ïåðåïå÷àòêà ñ ôîðóìà, ÷òî íå ñòîèò îòïðàâëÿòü ñâîè ðåçóëüòàòû ÌàêÄîíàëäó èç-çà åãî çàãðóæåííîñòè.
It is a message from Dr. McDonald:
"I am being swamped by requests for BGA analyses. I simply can no longer
accomodate all these requests. I am, at least for a while, going to continue
providing them free, if people will limit themselves to sending only
"important" ones. These include adoptees looking for answers and people
whose commercial analyses provide strange answers to whether they have
Native American, African or Jewish ancestry. Note that the new 23andme "Ancestry
Composition" is, on a "continent" level, essentially as good as my system.
FTDNA and Ancestry are much less accurate and if you tested with them
and they missed expected small bits, I still can take a look. If you are
Afro-(Euro)American and FTDNA said you are part Eastern European, I'll
check that. Try to describe the question you need answered.
I am still looking for special people to test as comparisons, mostly
people with Native American not from Central America.
In particular, I really can't keep up with requests from essentially 100%
European
people unless they have special questions such as possible Jewish or Roma.
Also, if you have parents their children, please send only parents. Some people
have sent me large numbers of files. If these people send more, I can look at
them
only if they have very very special needs.
Finally, if you got my address from some Web forum, please copy
the above occasionally, as I do not frequent these." ---
Ôàìèëüíàÿ òåìà Ðåçöîâû: https://forum.vgd.ru/post/1249/101017/p3032544.htm#pp3032544
Àâòîð êíèãè "Âåðà Õîëîäíàÿ: Îñêîëêè ìèôîâ" https://t.me/oskolki_mifov | | |
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27 èþíÿ 2013 7:26 9 èþëÿ 2013 10:51 Ïðåêðàñíîå äîêàçàòåëüñòâî "íå õàëòóðû è íå îáìàíà" â ôèðìàõ FTDNA è 23andMe:
Ñäåëàëà Family Finder â FTDNA ìàìó è äâîþðîäíóþ áàáóøêó ïî îòöó.
 23andMe ñäåëàëà ñâîé òåñò è çà ëüãîòíóþ ïëàòó â 49$ ïåðåáðîñèëà â FTDNA.
Ó âñåõ ðàçíûå ôàìèëèè è çàÿâëåíû ðàçíûå ýë. àäðåñà.
Ïîñëåäíÿÿ ôèðìà îáû÷íî ïåðåñòðàõîâûâàåòñÿ, è íàçíà÷àåò äàëüíèé ñðîê.
Òàê ó ìåíÿ áûë 28 àâãóñòà.
Íî âîò ñåãîäíÿ ðåçóëüòàò ñ óòðà ãîòîâ!
Ìíå íàøëè è ìàìó! Òàê è íàïèñàëè - Parent/Child, 3367,24ñì Longest Block 264,43
è òðîþðîäíóþ áàáóøêó 2nd Cousin - 3rd Cousin 2nd Cousin 171,77ñì Longest Block 29,92
Ïðèâåëà è ðàçìåð îáùèõ è ñàìûõ äëèííûõ êóñêîâ äíê.
Òàê ÷òî - Ôîìû íåâåðóþùèå: âîò äîêàçàòåëüñòâî! Îñîáåííî ýòî áóäåò ëó÷øåå äîêàçàòåëüñòâî âñåì ìîèì ðîäíûì ïåíñèîííîãî âîçðàñòà!
Òàêèå ó ìåíÿ îíè íåäîâåð÷èâûå! ---
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ò.å. åñëè ÿ ñäåëàþ òåñò ñåáå è åìó áàçà äàííûõ ïîêàæåò â êàêîì ðîäñòâå ìû ñîñòîèì? Äëÿ ìåíÿ ÄÍÊ-ãåíåàëîãèÿ òåìíûé ëåñ. Âîò ñèæó ÷èòàþ âñÿêèå ññûëêè  ---
Ëîìèíêèíû ä. Âåðãèíî, Ñåðåäêèíñêàÿ âîëîñòü, Ãäîâñêèé óåçä, Ïåòðîãðàäñêîé ãóáåðíèè (äî 1921ã)
Æåëòóõèíû ñ.Íîâîõðåíîâîå, Ïàíèíñêîãî ðàéîíà, Âîðîíåæñêîé îáë. (äî 1915ã)
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Êàëèíèíû Òâåðñêàÿ îáë, Óäîìåëüñêèé ðàéîí, | | |
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Äíèïðî (áûâø. Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê)
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21 ìàðòà 2014 12:48 Âîò ñîâåðøåííî òèòàíè÷åñêèé ïðîåêò ïî ãåíåòèêî-ãåíåàëîãè÷åñêîìó èññëåäîâàíèþ ïðåäêîâûõ íàñåëåííûõ ïóíêòîâ ---
Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
Êëûøêèí Âëàñåíêî Ñàêóíîâ Êó÷åðÿâåíêî (Ãëóõîâ)
Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.) | | |
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Äëÿ ìåíÿ ÄÍÊ-ãåíåàëîãèÿ òåìíûé ëåñ. Âîò ñèæó ÷èòàþ âñÿêèå ññûëêè [/q]
Äà, ïîêàæåò. ß çàêàçûâàëà â FTDNA äëÿ ìàìû è äëÿ ñûíà Family Finder â ðàçíîå âðåìÿ è ïîä ðàçíûìè ôàìèëèÿìè. Èõ íàøëè â áàçå è îïðåäåëèëè ñòåïåíü ðîäñòâà Half Siblings, Grandparent/ Grandchild, Aunt/ Uncle. | | |
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21 ìàðòà 2014 13:23 Íó ïðîñòî î÷åíü èíòåðåñíî! Ìóæ ñêàçàë íà äð ïîäàðîê ñäåëàåò (à ýòî àæ â íîÿáðå  ) Ïîêà èçó÷àòü âîïðîñ áóäó. Êîãäà äî äåëà äîéäó, ìíîãî âîïðîñîâ áóäåò. Çäåñü ìîæíî áóäåò ñïðàøèâàòü?  ---
Ëîìèíêèíû ä. Âåðãèíî, Ñåðåäêèíñêàÿ âîëîñòü, Ãäîâñêèé óåçä, Ïåòðîãðàäñêîé ãóáåðíèè (äî 1921ã)
Æåëòóõèíû ñ.Íîâîõðåíîâîå, Ïàíèíñêîãî ðàéîíà, Âîðîíåæñêîé îáë. (äî 1915ã)
Çÿáëèêîâû/Çÿáåëüêîâû ã.Ëåíèíãðàä/Òâåðñêàÿ îáë, Âñåãîíüñêèé óåçä, Õàáîöêàÿ âîë, ä.Ðóñèíîâà
Êàëèíèíû Òâåðñêàÿ îáë, Óäîìåëüñêèé ðàéîí, | | |
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Êîíå÷íî  | | |
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Êîíå÷íî. Åñëè áóäóò ó íàñ çàòðóäíåíèÿ, îáðàòèìñÿ ê çíàòîêàì ôîðóìà Ìîëãåí. ---
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