ÑØÀ (Ñîåäèí¸ííûå Øòàòû Àìåðèêè)
✔ ÄÈÀËÎÃÎÂÀß òåìà (âîïðîñû/îòâåòû)
sang ÑØÀ Ñîîáùåíèé: 1248 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 2348 | Íàâåðõ ##
19 àïðåëÿ 2013 17:04 MeriKa íàïèñàë: [q] èìÿ îòöà ñåìåéñòâà- Ãàâðèëîâ ϸòð Èâàíîâè÷ [/q]
Âàì óäàëîñü óçíàòü ïî ÷üåé ëèíèè ïëåìÿííèöà? sang íàïèñàë: [q] äâà ïîçäíåå.åãî äî÷ü óåõàëà â Àìåðèêó[/q]
Èìÿ äî÷åðè èçâåñòíî? | | |
MeriKaÓ÷àñòíèê  Êûçûë. Òóâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 93 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2013 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 49 | Íàâåðõ ##
20 àïðåëÿ 2013 4:30 Ðàññêàçûâàþ âñ¸ ïîäðîáíî. Âîññòàíàâëèâàëè ñóäüáó äåäà Îñòðîâñêèé Êóçüìà ßêîâëåâè÷. Ïðî åãî ðîäñòâåííèêîâ íå çíàëè âîîáùå íè ÷åãî. Âûÿñíèëè èç êàêèõ îí ìåñò. Òåïåðü ýòî òåððèòîðèÿ Ëàòâèè. Ïî âåðîèñïîâåäàíèþ îí áûë ñòàðîîáðÿäåö. Ó ýòîé ñòàðîîáðÿä÷åñêîé îáùèíû åñòü ñàéò.http://oldbel-kovalevo.ucoz.ru/ Íàïèñàëè òóäà. Î÷åíü áëàãîäàðíû çà èñòîðè÷åñêóþ è êðàåâåä÷åñêóþ ðàáîòó ìåñòíûì ýíòóçèàñòàì è èñòîðèêàì. Îñîáåííî Èãîðþ Ïëàòîíîâó. Îí ñðàçó îòâåòèë, âñ¸ îáúÿñíèë. Íà ñàìîì äåëå ôàìèëèÿ äåäà Ïðîêîôüåâ-â ãîäû ýìèãðàöèè ñìåíèë. Ó ìàòåðè Êóçüìû áûë áðàò ϸòð. Óåõàë èç ðîäíûõ ìåñò ñîâñåì ìîëîäûì.  äåðåâíå áûë ïî ôàìèëèè Âëàñîâ, à â 1916ã. óæå Ãàâðèëîâ. Òîæå ñìåíèë ôàìèëèþ. Ìîæåò ìåíÿëè èç çà ñòàðîîáðÿäñòâà? Áîëüøå èç îáùèíû íåò äàííûõ ñ êåì áû ïîòåðÿëè ñâÿçü. Òàê ÷òî âûõîäèò åäèíñòâåííî êòî ìîæåò áûòü ïëåìÿííèöåé äåäà ýòî äî÷ü Ïåòðà Èâàíîâè÷à Ãàâðèëîâà. Òåì áîëåå äåä æèë ó íåãî â 1916ã., ìîã ïîääåðæèâàòü ñâÿçü è ïîçäíåå, óæå èç Êèòàÿ. Áûëà åù¸ îäíà âåðñèÿ, ÷òî â Àìåðèêó óåõàëà ñåñòðà æåíû íàøåãî äåäóøêè. Íî âåäü îíà íå ìîæåò áûòü ïëåìÿííèöåé?. Îíà ñêîðåå ñâîÿ÷åíèöà. À âîò äî÷ü äÿäè ýòî ïëåìÿííèöà äëÿ íàøåãî äåäà. Èìÿ äî÷åðè íåèçâåñòíî.  áàçàõ äàííûõ åñòü ôóíêöèÿ ïîèñêà ïî èìåíè ðîäèòåëåé ýìèãðàíòîâ? À ìîæåò îíè âñ¸ ñåìüåé ïîåõàëè. Âîçìîæíî ñàì Ãàâðèëîâ áóäåò â àíêåòàõ. È âîçìîæíî åõàòü îíè áóäóò èç Ðîññèè. Æèëè â Èðêóòñêîé îáëàñòè. | | |
sang ÑØÀ Ñîîáùåíèé: 1248 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 2348 | Íàâåðõ ##
20 àïðåëÿ 2013 18:35 MeriKa íàïèñàë: [q] Â áàçàõ äàííûõ åñòü ôóíêöèÿ ïîèñêà ïî èìåíè ðîäèòåëåé ýìèãðàíòîâ?[/q]
Ýòà ôóíêöèÿ ðàáîòàåò ðåäêî, â îñíîâíîì ïî çàïèñÿì î ñìåðòè ïî øòàòó Êàëèôîðíèÿ.  èììèãðàöèîííûõ çàïèñÿõ ìîæåò âñòðåòèòüñÿ çàïèñü î ðîäèòåëÿõ îñòàâøèõñÿ íà ðîäèíå, íî ýòà ÷àñòü äîêóìåíòà íå èíäåêñèðóåòñÿ (íå âíîñèòüñÿ â áàçó). Ò.å âîñïîëüçîâàòüñÿ ýòèì Âû íå ñìîæåòå. MeriKa íàïèñàë: [q] Òàê ÷òî âûõîäèò åäèíñòâåííî êòî ìîæåò áûòü ïëåìÿííèöåé äåäà ýòî äî÷ü Ïåòðà Èâàíîâè÷à Ãàâðèëîâà.[/q]
Êàê ÿ ïîíÿëà Âàì íå èçâåñòíî áûëà ëè ó íåãî äî÷ü, ýòî Âàøå ïðåäïîëîæåíèå. MeriKa íàïèñàë: [q] Âîçìîæíî ñàì Ãàâðèëîâ áóäåò â àíêåòàõ[/q]
Ìîæåò Âàì èçâåñòåí åãî ãîä ðîæäåíèÿ? | | |
MeriKaÓ÷àñòíèê  Êûçûë. Òóâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 93 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2013 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 49 | Íàâåðõ ##
21 àïðåëÿ 2013 6:00 MeriKa íàïèñàë: [q] ×òî çíàåì íàâåðíÿêà èìÿ îòöà ñåìåéñòâà- Ãàâðèëîâ ϸòð Èâàíîâè÷ 1885ã. óðîæåíåö Óæâàëüäñêîé âîëîñòè, Äâèíñêîãî óåçäà, Âèòåáñêîé ãóáåðíèè. [/q]
Ýòî èçâåñòíî òî÷íî | | |
sang ÑØÀ Ñîîáùåíèé: 1248 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 2348 | Íàâåðõ ##
22 àïðåëÿ 2013 6:56 22 àïðåëÿ 2013 6:57 MeriKa Âñòðå÷àåòñÿ ìíîãî Ãàâðèëîâûõ, íî Ïåòðà 1885 ã., ê ñîæàëåíèþ ñðåäè íèõ íåò. | | |
Balymba Óêðà¿íà Êàðïàòè Ñîîáùåíèé: 1165 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1295 | Íàâåðõ ##
10 ìàÿ 2013 23:48 sang íàïèñàë: [q] Â áàçå ïî ÑØÀ:
Julia Wertyporoch birth: 18 April 1911 death: 5 March 2000 Pinellas, Florida
Iwan Wertyporoch birth: 1 January 1909 death: August 1983 Pinellas, Florida
Iwan B Wertyporoch birth: 01 Jan 1909 death: 21 Aug 1983 Pinellas, Florida, United States[/q]
ªòè òî÷íî íå ìîè. --- Ñòåôóðàê, Ëåâêóí, ×óðåâè÷, Çåëåíåâè÷, ʳâíþê, Ëåñþê, Äàíèëþê, Êð³ï÷óê (Êðåï÷óê), Êóö, Ïîïèê, Âåðòèïîðîõ, Êîçüìèí, Ìåëüíè÷óê, Ðåâòþê, Øîâãåíþê, Ïàíüêî, Þðàùóê, ¥ðåùóê, Ãîð³øíèé, Âàíäæóðà, Æîëîá, Ïîâàð÷óê (Ïèâîâàð÷óê), Ëóá³â, ²ñàé÷óê (²ñà¿â)
Ïîïîâè÷-Òóðåöü | | |
Balymba Óêðà¿íà Êàðïàòè Ñîîáùåíèé: 1165 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1295 | Íàâåðõ ##
10 ìàÿ 2013 23:50 sang íàïèñàë: [q] Â Áðàçèëüñêèõ èììèãðàöèîííûõ çàïèñÿõ:
Name: Hrynda Paraska Event Type: Immigration Event Date: 1947 Gender: Female Marital Status: Married Nationality: Ukraine Birth Date: 07 Aug 1920 Birthplace: Stanislawow Father's Name: Iwan Wertyporoch Mother's Name: Eudolkia Kostiuck[/q]
Ìîæåò áü³òü êòî-òî èç ìîèõ. Ñóäÿ ïî ãîäó ðîæäåíèÿ è ºìèãðàöèè, îíà âîçìîæíî áü³ëà íà ðàáîòàõ â Ãåðìàíèè. Íàäî áóäåò ïîèñêàòü èíôîðìàöèþ. --- Ñòåôóðàê, Ëåâêóí, ×óðåâè÷, Çåëåíåâè÷, ʳâíþê, Ëåñþê, Äàíèëþê, Êð³ï÷óê (Êðåï÷óê), Êóö, Ïîïèê, Âåðòèïîðîõ, Êîçüìèí, Ìåëüíè÷óê, Ðåâòþê, Øîâãåíþê, Ïàíüêî, Þðàùóê, ¥ðåùóê, Ãîð³øíèé, Âàíäæóðà, Æîëîá, Ïîâàð÷óê (Ïèâîâàð÷óê), Ëóá³â, ²ñàé÷óê (²ñà¿â)
Ïîïîâè÷-Òóðåöü | | |
Balymba Óêðà¿íà Êàðïàòè Ñîîáùåíèé: 1165 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1295 | Íàâåðõ ##
10 ìàÿ 2013 23:51 sang íàïèñàë: [q] Èììèãðàöèîííûå çàïèñè: Surname: Wertyporoch Given Name: Eudokja Age: 18 Sex: F Nationality: Pol Date of Arrival: 1928/05/22 (YYYY/MM/DD) Port of Arrival: Halifax Ship: LA BOURDONNAIS, French
Surname: Wertyporoch Given Name: Petro Age: 24 Sex: M Nationality: Pol Date of Arrival: 1926/12/31 (YYYY/MM/DD) Port of Arrival: Halifax Ship: TUSCANIA, Anchor[/q]
Ìîè, íî Ïåòð óìåð âñêîðå ïîñëå ïðèáü³òèÿ â Êàíàäó, à ïî åâäîêèè òàê íè÷åãî áîëüøå è íåò... --- Ñòåôóðàê, Ëåâêóí, ×óðåâè÷, Çåëåíåâè÷, ʳâíþê, Ëåñþê, Äàíèëþê, Êð³ï÷óê (Êðåï÷óê), Êóö, Ïîïèê, Âåðòèïîðîõ, Êîçüìèí, Ìåëüíè÷óê, Ðåâòþê, Øîâãåíþê, Ïàíüêî, Þðàùóê, ¥ðåùóê, Ãîð³øíèé, Âàíäæóðà, Æîëîá, Ïîâàð÷óê (Ïèâîâàð÷óê), Ëóá³â, ²ñàé÷óê (²ñà¿â)
Ïîïîâè÷-Òóðåöü | | |
Balymba Óêðà¿íà Êàðïàòè Ñîîáùåíèé: 1165 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1295 | Íàâåðõ ##
10 ìàÿ 2013 23:52 sang íàïèñàë: [q]  çàïèñÿõ ïî Êàíàäå âñòðå÷àþòñÿ:  áàçå ïî âûäàííûì ïàòåíòàì íà çåìëþ â ïåðèîä 1870-1930 (íåò ëè÷íîé èíôîðìàöèè, òîëüêî ñïèñêè) Nick Werteporoch John Wertyporoch Stefan Wertyporoch[/q]
Âïîëíå âîçìîæíî, ÷òî êòî-òî èç íèõ ìîè - íî ãäå èñêàòü äàëüøå? --- Ñòåôóðàê, Ëåâêóí, ×óðåâè÷, Çåëåíåâè÷, ʳâíþê, Ëåñþê, Äàíèëþê, Êð³ï÷óê (Êðåï÷óê), Êóö, Ïîïèê, Âåðòèïîðîõ, Êîçüìèí, Ìåëüíè÷óê, Ðåâòþê, Øîâãåíþê, Ïàíüêî, Þðàùóê, ¥ðåùóê, Ãîð³øíèé, Âàíäæóðà, Æîëîá, Ïîâàð÷óê (Ïèâîâàð÷óê), Ëóá³â, ²ñàé÷óê (²ñà¿â)
Ïîïîâè÷-Òóðåöü | | |
sang ÑØÀ Ñîîáùåíèé: 1248 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 2348 | Íàâåðõ ##
11 ìàÿ 2013 20:34 Balymba íàïèñàë: [q] Âïîëíå âîçìîæíî, ÷òî êòî-òî èç íèõ ìîè - íî ãäå èñêàòü äàëüøå? [/q]
 áàçàõ Âû íàâðÿä ëè åùå ÷òî-òî íàéäåòå, èùèòå íà êàíàäñêèõ ôîðóìàõ. Ìîæåò êòî-òî èùåò ñâîè êîðíè. Âîò íàïðèìåð åñòü òàêàÿ çàïèñü: I dedicate to my in-laws Prof. Dr. Evhen Ivan Wertyporoch, and his wife Leonida Iwanna (nee Chromowska). Both spent much timeworking in the Ukrainian community. Evhen, son of Ivan and Leontyna (nee Balbozynska), was born on April 17, 1898 in Lyashky Korolivski, Peremyshlany district, Western Ukraine. During W.W.I, he served as an officer in the Austrian and Ukrainian Galician armies. He completed chemical engineering (1926) and a doctorate in chemistry (1929) in Danzig. In 1934 he became a fellow of the Shevchenko Scientific Society (SSS). He worked in the Klawe pharmaceutical firm on vitamin research and insulin production. In 1942 he headed the Dept. of Chemistry at the Medical Institute in Lviv. Before the end of Will, Evhen moved to Krakiv, Vienna, and then Munich. In 1948 he emigrated to Canada where he worked for the Shuttleworth Chemical Company and later at Ryerson Polytechnic Institute. In Canada he organized the Shevchenko Scientific Society and the Ukrainian Technical Society. In 1963 Evhen became the general secretary and in 1970 the president of the Supreme Council of the SSS.Dr. Wertyporoch died on January 10, 1972, leaving his widow Leonida and two daughters, Chrystyna and Bozhena with husbands. À ê çàïèñè ôîòî: http://lemko.org/lih/churchir/chirded3.jpgÈ åùå ïðî ýòó ñåìüþ http://www.meduniv.lviv.ua/ind...Itemid=321Bozhena Wertyporoch was born on 1939.04.04 in Warszawa, Poland. Before coming to Canada in the fall of 1948 Bozhena lived in Ukraine, Poland, Austria and Germany. She completed her education and continues to live in Toronto to this date. Lately, Bozhena has been accompanying Oleh on some of his consulting ventures including Australia, New Zealand, South America and South-East Asia. Oleh & Bozhena were married in Toronto in August of 1958 and settled in Toronto. Their first child, a daughter - Olesia, was born in 1959. Another daughter – Olena, was born in 1962; a son – Danylo, arrived in 1965 and another son – Ihor arrived in 1968. Today: Olesia Iwanusiw, a forestry engineer, became Olesia VanDyke by marrying Alfred VanDyke, another forestry engineer, and they live near Pemboke, Ontario. Olena Iwanusiw, a computer professional, became Olena Coba by marrying Roman Coba, another computer & business professional, and they live in Toronto. Danylo Iwanusiw, a plumber by trade, married Oksana Kucherepa, a book keeper, and they live in Mississauga. Ihor Iwanusiw, a sports health professional & enthusiast – but works as a fireman in Toronto, lives in Wasaga Beach north of Toronto. In total, Bozhena & Oleh Iwanusiw have eight grandchildren - Jason, Jarema, Nadia, Andriy, Zenon, Larysa, Levko & Teodor. | | |
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