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Ìîé ïðàäåä íåìåöêèé êîëîíèñò. Êîëîíèÿ íàõîäèëàñü, ãäå-òî â Ãðîäíåíñêîé ãóáåðíèè. Ïðåäïîëîæèòåëüíî íàçûâàëîñü Êëåòíî. Ïîäñêàæèòå, åñëè êîìó-ëèáî èçâåñòíî îá èñòî÷íèêàõ, ãäå ìîæíî óçíàòü ñêîëüêî è ãäå ðàçìåùàëèñü íåìåöêèå êîëîíèè íà òåððèòîðèè Ðîññèéñêîé èìïåðèè.
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Òî æå ñàìîå, ÷òî è áàçà â Ïåòåðêèðõå â Ïåòåðáóðãå íà Íåâñêîì ïðîñïåêòå.
Áàçà Àìáóðãåðà.
http://88.217.240.33/amburger/?mode=2
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Ñ÷èòàþ öåëåñîîáðàçíûì ïðîäóáëèðîâàòü çäåñü òåìó èç ðàçäåëà «Âîëîíòåðû ïðî÷èå» - «Ðóññêèå íåìöû. https://forum.vgd.ru/2/1357/450.htm

Ðóññêèå íåìöû - òàê îáîáùåííî íàçûâàëè íåìöåâ, æèâøèõ íà âñåé òåððèòîðèè áûâøåé Ðîññèéñêîé èìïåðèè.

 ýòîì ïîñòå áóäóò ñîáèðàòüñÿ ññûëêè íà èíòåðíåò ðåñóðñû ïîëåçíûå ïðè èçó÷åíèè ãåíåàëîãèè íåìöåâ Ðîññèè, Óêðàèíû, Êàçàõñòàíà è òä.

ÑÏÈÑÊÈ ÐÎÑÑÈÉÑÊÈÕ ÍÅÌÖÅÂ:

http://odessa3.org/search.html – ýòî îãðîìíàÿ áàçà, ñîäåðæàùàÿ â ñåáå ãåíåàëîãè÷åñêóþ èíôîðìàöèþ î íåìöàõ, ïðîæèâàâøèõ âî âðåìÿ ÂΠíà îêêóïèðîâàííûõ òîãäà òåððèòîðèÿõ ñîâðåìåííîé Óêðàèíû è þãà Ðîññèè, è íå òîëüêî. Êàê ðàííåå ãîâîðèëîñü, îñíîâàíà îíà íà êîïèÿõ äîêóìåíòîâ, õðàíÿùèõñÿ â Ôåäåðàëüíîì àðõèâå Ãåðìàíèè(Áåðëèí) Bundesarchiv - http://www.bundesarchiv.de/index.html. Êàê ïðàâèëî, ýòî äîêóìåíòû, ñâÿçàííûå ñ ïðîøåíèåì íåìåöêîãî ãðàæäàíñòâà ðóññêèõ íåìöåâ.  ýòèõ ïðîøåíèÿõ óêàçàíû äàòû è ìåñòà ðîæäåíèÿ ïîäàþùèõ ïðîøåíèÿ, à òàê æå èõ ðîäèòåëåé, âêëþ÷àÿ äåäóøåê ñ áàáóøêàìè. Ïîäðîáíåå íèæå.

http://88.217.241.77/amburger/tabellen/A.htm - àðõèâ Àìáóðãåðà(ãðóçèòñÿ äîëãî). Êàðòîòåêà Àìáóðãåðà ñîäåðæèò áîëåå 100000 ïåðñîíàëèé ðîññèéñêèõ íåìöåâ. Ïåðåéäÿ ïî âûøåóêàçàííîé ññûëêå, íàâåäèòå êóðñîð íà ID èëè OID íîìåð èíòåðåñóþùåé âàñ ïåðñîíû, êëèêíèòå(íàæìèòå) íà íåãî, òîãäà àâòîìàòè÷åñêè âû ïåðåéäåòå íà ñòðàíèöó ñ èíôîðìàöèåé î ïåðñîíå. Èëè âûïèøèòå ID-íîìåð, è ïåðåéäÿ ïî ýòîé ññûëêå - http://88.217.241.77/amburger/?mode=2 , âáåéòå åãî â ñîîòâåòñòâóþùèå îêîøêè(ID auswählen) âíèçó òàáëèöû. Ïîäðîáíåå îá ýòîì ÷èòàéòå íà ýòîì ñàéòå - http://genobooks.narod.ru/Raznoe/sovety_amburger.htm

http://www.familysearch.org/eng - ãëîáàëüíàÿ ôàìèëüíàÿ áàçà. Íåâíÿòíàÿ, ïîêà íå ñîâñåì ãîòîâàÿ, íî óæå ñåðüåçíûé ïîìîùíèê äëÿ ñáîðà ãåíåàëîãè÷åñêîé èíôîðìàöèè.


http://www.ahsgr.org/gedlist.htm - ñïèñîê íåìöåâ, ýìèãðèðîâàâøèõ â ÑØÀ, ìíîãèå èç Ïîâîëæüÿ. http://www.ahsgr.org/GO/goA.htm - ñïèñêè ïåðâûõ íåìåöêèõ ïîñëåíöåâ-êîëîíèñòîâ.

http://chortiza.heim.at/kolonie.htm îòëè÷íûé ñàéò, ïîñâÿùåííûé íåìåöêèì ìåííîíèòñêèì êîëîíèÿì Õîðòèöû. Ìàññà ãåíåàëîãè÷åñêîé èíôîðìàöèè, óäîáíûé, ñ óêàçàòåëåì ôàìèëèé, êàðòàìè è òä.

Äîïîëíèòåëüíî:

http://www.wolhynien.de/genealogy/foko/foko1.htm - ñïèñêè íåìöåâ, æèâøèõ íà Âîëûíè

http://www.galizien.org/gedview/indilist.php?alpha=A - íåìöû Ãàëèöèè

Áàëòèéñêèå íåìöû:

http://www.lvva-raduraksti.lv/ru.html - Ëàòûøñêèé àðõèâ âûëîæèë íà ñàéòå ÄËß ÑÂÎÁÎÄÍÎÃÎ ÄÎÑÒÓÏÀ ìåòðè÷åñêèå êíèãè åâ-ëþòåð. ïðèõîäîâ Ëàòâèè 17- 19 âåêîâ, ÏÐÀÊÒÈ×ÅÑÊÈ ÂÑÅÕ.

http://www.ra.ee/dgs/explorer....cbf29ead5b - Ýñòîíñêèé àðõèâ âûëîæèë íà ñàéòå ÄËß ÑÂÎÁÎÄÍÎÃÎ ÄÎÑÒÓÏÀ ìåòðè÷åñêèå êíèãè åâ-ëþòåð. ïðèõîäîâ Ýñòîíèè. ×èòàéòå â òåìàõ ðàçäåëà "Ýñòîíèÿ" - https://forum.vgd.ru/35/9331/

Äíåâíèê litana: https://forum.vgd.ru/post/323/27209/p572333.htm#pp572333 - áàëòèéñêîå äâîðÿíñòâî è äð. íåìöû.
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http://odessa3.org/search.html – ýòî îãðîìíàÿ áàçà, ñîäåðæàùàÿ â ñåáå ãåíåàëîãè÷åñêóþ èíôîðìàöèþ î íåìöàõ, ïðîæèâàâøèõ âî âðåìÿ ÂÎÂ, íà îêêóïèðîâàííûõ òîãäà òåððèòîðèÿõ ñîâðåìåííîé Óêðàèíû è þãà Ðîññèè, è íå òîëüêî. Êàê ðàííåå ãîâîðèëîñü, îñíîâàíà îíà íà êîïèÿõ äîêóìåíòîâ, õðàíÿùèõñÿ â Ôåäåðàëüíîì àðõèâå Ãåðìàíèè - http://www.bundesarchiv.de/index.html. Êàê ïðàâèëî, ýòî äîêóìåíòû, ñâÿçàííûå ñ ïðîøåíèåì íåìåöêîãî ãðàæäàíñòâà ðóññêèõ íåìöåâ.  ýòèõ ïðîøåíèÿõ óêàçàíû äàòû è ìåñòà ðîæäåíèÿ ïîäàþùèõ ïðîøåíèÿ, à òàêæå èõ ðîäèòåëåé, âêëþ÷àÿ äåäóøåê ñ áàáóøêàìè.

Âàæíî: Äëÿ ìåíÿ, êàê ðîññèÿíèíà, îñîáåííî âàæíû ñâåäåíüÿ íå îá óåõàâøèõ - ýìèãðèðîâàâøèõ â Ãåðìàíèþ ðîäñòâåííèêàõ, à ñâåäåíüÿ îá èõ ïðåäêàõ, ñëåäîâàòåëüíî è ìîèõ, òàê æå êàê è èì ïðÿìûõ è ìíå. Äåëî â òîì, ÷òî ïðè ïîäà÷å ïðîøåíèé íà âñòóïëåíèå â íåìåöêîå ïîääàíñòâî óêàçûâàëèñü ñâåäåíüÿ î áëèçêèõ ðîäñòâåííèêàõ, âêëþ÷àÿ äåäóøåê è áàáóøåê. Ò.å., â ýòèõ ïðîøåíèÿõ óêàçàíû äàòû è ìåñòà ðîæäåíèÿ íå òîëüêî ðîäèòåëåé, íî è äåäóøåê ñ áàáóøêàìè. Òàêæå ãåîãðàôèÿ ìåñò ðîæäåíèÿ äåäîâ è áàáóøåê - âñÿ ðîññèéñêàÿ èìïåðèÿ, à çíàÿ ýòè äàòû è ìåñòà ðîæäåíèÿ(ïóñòü äàæå ïðèáëèçèòåëüíûå), âû óæå ìîæåòå îáðàùàòüñÿ â ðîññèéñêèå ðåãèîíàëüíûå àðõèâû.

Î äîêóìåíòàõ(êàê âûãëÿäÿò):

1.Çäåñü ïðîøåíèå î ãðàæäàíñòâå, íà ïÿòè ñòðàíèöàõ. Íèæå ïðèëàãàþùèåñÿ ê íåìó áëàíêè

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Áëàíê ñ èíôîðìàöèåé î áðàòüÿõ è ñåñòðàõ

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3.Áëàíê ñ èíôîðìàöèåé î ðîäèòåëÿõ - íåêàÿ ïå÷àòíàÿ ôîðìà î ïîäòâåðæäåíèè íåìåöêîãî ïðîèñõîæäåíèÿ(?).  ýòîì-òî äîêóìåíòå, êîòîðûé ÿ çàêàçàë íà âñÿêèé ñëó÷àé, äëÿ îáùèõ ñâåäåíèé î ôàìèëüíîì êóñòå, íåîæèäàííî îáíàðóæèë ñâåäåíüÿ î ñâîèõ ïðåäêàõ - Ôåðäèíàíäå Òðåïêå. Íèãäå(ïîä÷åðêèâàþ) â èíòåðíåòå, íà ðàíåå îáñóæäàâøèõñÿ ñàéòàõ, äà è âîîáùå, èíôîðìàöèè î íåì íåò, â òîì ÷èñëå è íà ñàìîì http://odessa3.org/search.html, à â äîêóìåíòå åñòü. Òåïåðü çíàþ èìÿ ìîåé ïðà-ïðà-ïðàáàáóøêè – Ñþçàííà(Susanne) ïî ìóæó Òðåïêå, åå òîæå â gedcom-àõ Odessa3org íå áûëî.

Âûâîä: Åñëè â îïèñè íà Odessa3.org âû íå îáíàðóæèëè ñâîåãî ïðåäêà – ýòî ñîâñåì íå îçíà÷àåò, ÷òî â äîêóìåíòàõ ñàéòà íåò î íåì èíôîðìàöèè. Ìîæåòå ïðîâåðèòü íà ìîåì ïðèìåðå.

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Ìíå ìîè ðîäñòâåííèêè ñîîáùèëè, ÷òî íàøà ôàìèëèÿ ØÒÐÓÍÎÂ (ØÒÐÓÍ) íåìåöêàÿ, ìîæíî ëè ýòî êàê-íèáóäü ïðîâåðèòü?
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Êàäîìñêèé ð-í Ðàêîâêà, Ñîëîâüÿíîâêà, Ïàíñêàÿ, Ñòðóæàíêà, Ïåòðîñëàáîäêà, Ðåøåòîâêà, Êîòåëèíî, ×åðìíûå, Ëèïëÿéêà, Ñò.Âûñîêîå, Þçãà, Ñèìóøêà, Øìåëåâêà, Ãàëàõîâêà, Ãóíàåâêà.
Øòðóíîâû, Øëûêîâû, Ïàðóáèíû, ×åêìàðåâû, Ïàðøèíû, Ãîðäååâû, Ôèëèíû, Îðåøêèíû
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Ïàñòîð_Øëàã òðóäíî ÷òî-ëèáî óòâåðæäàòü, íî ôàìèëèÿ Øòðóí(Strun) è ñðåäè íåìöåâ-òî âñòðå÷àåòñÿ êðàéíå ðåäêî.
Íàïðèìåð, â òåëåôîííîì ñïðàâî÷íèêå Ãåðìàíèè âñåãî äâà ÷åëîâåêà ñ òàêîé ôàìèëèåé http://www.telefonbuch.de/ . Êóäà áîëåå ðàñïðîñòðàíåíà ôàìèëèÿ Øòóðí(Sturn).

Óâû, áîëüøå íè÷åãî íå ìîãó äîáàâèòü.
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Ïàñòîð_Øëàã

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À êàê ïåðåâîäÿòñÿ Strun è Sturn ñ íåìåöêîãî íå ïîäñêàæåòå (åñëè êîíå÷íî ïåðåâîäèòñÿ)? Ýòèìîëîãèÿ ìíå íå ïîíÿòíà.
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Êàäîìñêèé ð-í Ðàêîâêà, Ñîëîâüÿíîâêà, Ïàíñêàÿ, Ñòðóæàíêà, Ïåòðîñëàáîäêà, Ðåøåòîâêà, Êîòåëèíî, ×åðìíûå, Ëèïëÿéêà, Ñò.Âûñîêîå, Þçãà, Ñèìóøêà, Øìåëåâêà, Ãàëàõîâêà, Ãóíàåâêà.
Øòðóíîâû, Øëûêîâû, Ïàðóáèíû, ×åêìàðåâû, Ïàðøèíû, Ãîðäååâû, Ôèëèíû, Îðåøêèíû
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Ó ìåíÿ â ñëîâàðå, ïî ñëîâàì ñïåöîâ îäíîì èç ñàìûõ ïîëíûõ, òàêîãî ñëîâà íåò.  ïðèíöèïå, ôàìèëèÿ Øòóðí(Sturn) âñòðå÷àåòñÿ è íå òîëüêî â Ãåðìàíèè, íî è â Øâåéöàðèè, è åùå ìíîãî ãäå. Âîò íà ñàéòå http://www.familysearch.org ïîñìîòðèòå. Ýòî Datenbank der Mormonen, âêëþ÷àåò 957 ìëí. ëþäåé ñî âñåõ ñòðàí. Ñîáñòâåííî äëÿ óñòàíîâëåíèÿ ôàìèëèè, íà ìîé âçãëÿä, ëó÷øå ñàéòà íåò.

55. Anna Strun - International Genealogical Index / CE
Gender: Female Birth: About 1589 Darstetten, Bern, Switzerland
56. Anna Strun - International Genealogical Index / CE
Gender: Female Birth: About 1589 Darstetten, Bern, Switzerland
57. Anna <STRUN> - International Genealogical Index / CE
Gender: <Female> Birth: About 1589 Of, Darstetten, Bern, Switzerland
58. Anna Strun - International Genealogical Index / CE
Gender: Female Birth: About 1589 Darstetten, Bern, Switzerland
59. Anna Strun - International Genealogical Index / CE
Gender: Female Birth: 11 DEC 1597 Darstetten, Bern, Switzerland
60. Anna Strun - International Genealogical Index / CE
Gender: Female Birth: 11 DEC 1597 Darstetten, Bern, Switzerland
61. ANNA STRUN - International Genealogical Index / CE
Gender: Female Marriage: 19 OCT 1612 Darstetten, Bern, Switzerland
62. Anna Strun - International Genealogical Index / CE
Gender: <Female> Birth: 1806 Swartsneich, , Bern, Switzerland
63. Anne Strun - International Genealogical Index / CE
Gender: Female Birth: 1806 Swarteneich, , Bern, Switzerland
64. Balthasar Strun - International Genealogical Index / CE
Gender: Male Birth: About 1560 Darstetten, Bern, Switzerland
65. Balthasar Strun - International Genealogical Index / CE
Gender: Male Birth: About 1560 Darstetten, Bern, Switzerland
66. Balthasar Strun - International Genealogical Index / CE
Gender: Male Birth: About 1560 Darstetten, Bern, Switzerland
67. Balthasar <STRUN> - International Genealogical Index / CE
Gender: <Male> Birth: 14 JUL 1593 Of, Darstetten, Bern, Switzerland
68. Balthasar <STRUN> - International Genealogical Index / CE
Gender: <Male> Birth: 09 FEB 1599 Of, Darstetten, Bern, Switzerland
69. Balthasar Strun - International Genealogical Index / CE
Gender: Male Birth: 01 AUG 1602 Darstetten, Bern, Switzerland
70. Balthasar Strun - International Genealogical Index / CE
Gender: Male Birth: 01 AUG 1602 Darstetten, Bern, Switzerland
71. Balthasar <STRUN> - International Genealogical Index / CE
Gender: <Male> Birth: 01 AUG 1602 Of, Darstetten, Bern, Switzerland
72. Christian Strun - International Genealogical Index / CE
Gender: Male Birth: 10 AUG 1666 Darstetten, Bern, Switzerland
Matches: International Genealogical Index/Continental Europe - over 19
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International Genealogical Index - Denmark
73. JACOB ANDERSEN VED STRUN - International Genealogical Index / DE
Gender: Male Marriage: 07 JAN 1693 Gimsing, Ringkobing, Denmark
Matches: International Genealogical Index/Denmark - 1
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International Genealogical Index - Germany
74. Anton Heinrich Konrad Bisemeier Strun - International Genealogical Index / GE
Gender: Male Birth: < 1831> <Linderbruch, , Westfalen, Preussen>
75. Heinrich Friedrich Konrad Bisemeier Strun - International Genealogical Index / GE
Gender: Male Birth: 11 APR 1856 Linderbruch, , Westfalen, Preussen
76. JOHAN BEREND CONRAD STRUN - International Genealogical Index / GE
Gender: Male Birth: 13 NOV 1779 Evangelisch, Heepen, Westfalen, Preussen
77. LOUISE STRUN. - International Genealogical Index / GE
Gender: Female Marriage: 04 JUN 1820 Evangelisch,Bega, , Lippe, Germany
78. Margareta Strun - International Genealogical Index / GE
Gender: Female Christening: 27 FEB 1633 Coln, , Rheinland, Preussen
79. Strun - International Genealogical Index / GE
Gender: Male Birth: About 1800 , , Germany
Matches: International Genealogical Index/Germany - 6


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