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25 àïðåëÿ 2017 17:03 25 àïðåëÿ 2017 17:04 Maria Sandidge íàïèñàë: [q] To the left is Ivan Slovasevitch(he changed his name many times) he lists his birth Sliva, Russia in Sept. 14,1885. We were told that he was with the Imperial Russian Army. This photo is dated 1909, two years after he immigrated to the US, via Galveston, Texas. Can anyone identify in specific, his uniform ? Thank you !
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Junior under-officer (on the left) and a soldier (on the right) of the Imperial Russian Army in dark green (practically black) uniform that was initially introduced in 1907 and issued to troops starting in 1909. This pattern was officially replaced by khaki field uniform in 1913 but brought back in 1914 when the WW1 started. Because of the uniform shortage during the war it was issued to various support and reserve units that were not in direct combat with the enemy. The light blue belt (a sash) is non-regulation detail that under-officers were not supposed to wear but it’s a common feature on many photographs from that time period. The rank of the under-officer (sergeant) is indicated by 2 stripes on shoulder boards and gold lace on the coat’s collar and cuffs. Dark (red) shoulder boards and light (blue) collars and bands on peaked caps are colors of a second regiment of each infantry division. A particular regiment can be identified by either a number or a royal monogram on the shoulder boards. Unfortunately in this case the image resolution is too low to see anything. Theoretically it possible to try to guess the unit based on the city or town where the photo was taken. In the Russian Empire the draft age was 21. DOB of September 1885 means that he was probably drafted in 1906. At that time the active service in the infantry lasted for 3 years | | |
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27 àïðåëÿ 2017 23:01 êíÿçü Àëåêñàíäð íàïèñàë: [q] .Ïîäñêàæèòå ÷òî ìîæíî óçíàòü î âîåííîì ïî ýòîìó ôîòî.
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Ïîcîâåòóþ ñêàíèðîâàòü îáëàñòü ïîãîíà ñ ðàçðåøåíèåì áîëåå 1200 dpi, òîãäà, âîçìîæíî, øèôðîâêà íà ïîãîíå áóäåò áîëåå ÷¸òêîé è óäàñòñÿ îïðåäåëèòü ïîëê.
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28 àïðåëÿ 2017 8:16 alexlushpa íàïèñàë: [q] Õîòåë ñïðîñèòü åñëè êòî çíàåò. Íà ôîòî ìîé ðîäñòâåííèê Ëóøïà Àíäðåé Ô¸äîðîâè÷, äàòèðîâàíî Ìàåì 1917ãî ãîäà. Îí áûë ïîëêîâíèêîì, ñëóæèë â 27ì Âîñòî÷íî- Ñèáèðñêîì ñèðåëêîâîì ïîëêó. Íî íà ýòîé ôîòîãðàôèè âèäíî öèôðó 3 íà ïîãîíå, õîòÿ ïî èäåå äîëæíî áûòü 27. [/q]
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28 àïðåëÿ 2017 8:21 28 àïðåëÿ 2017 8:30 alexlushpa Íà ïîãîíå ìíå âèäèòñÿ øèôðîâêà "32Ñá" - 32 Ñèáèðñêèé ñòðåëêîâûé ïîëê (ñêàí âûñîêîãî ðàçðåøåíèÿ âåñüìà æåëàòåëåí). Âîçìîæíî, áûë ïåðåâîä ïî ñëóæáå. Íàäî ñìîòðåòü ïî äîêóìåíòàì â ÐÃÂÈÀ (ô.3361 - 27-é Ñèáèðñêèé ñòðåëêîâûé ïîëê, ô.3366 - 32-é Ñèáèðñêèé ñòðåëêîâûé ïîëê), ïðàâäà, âñ¸ ýòî ó íèõ ñåé÷àñ â îöèôðîâêå.
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Ýñêàäðåííûé áðîíåíîñåö «Åâñòàôèé» . ÒÒÕ: Âîäîèçìåùåíèå 14000-14500 òîíí Ãëàâíûå ðàçìåðåíèÿ: - äëèííà 123 ì - øèðèíà 23 ì - îñàäêà 8ì ÊÌÓ - êîòëû Áåëüâèëÿ, ÏÌ òðîéíîãî ðàñøèðåíèÿ Ìîùíîñòü ìàøèí 16000 - 16500 ë/ñ Ñêîðîñòü: 17 óçëîâ äîëãîâðåìåííî, 18,5 êðàòêîâðåìåííî ïðè ôîðñèðîâàíèè. Äàëüíîñòü ïëàâàíèÿ - 5000 ìèëü 10-òè óçëîâûì õîäîì. Âîîðóæåíèå: 4 - 305/40 ìì/êàë., 8 - 203/ 45 ìì/êàë., 12 - 120/45 ìì/êàë., îäèí íàäâîäíûé è äâà ïîäâîäíûõ òîðïåäíûõ àïïàðàòà. Áðîíèðîâàíèå: ãëàâíûé áðîíåâîé ïîÿñ, òðàâåðñû, áàðáåòû è áàøíè ãëàâíîãî êàëèáðà, áîåâàÿ ðóáêà - 305 ìì 2-é ïðîòèâîôóãàñíûé ïîÿñ, 3-é ïîÿñ áàòàðåè 120 ìì îðóäèé, áàòàðåÿ 203ìì îðóäèé - 152 ìì áðîíåâàÿ ïàëóáà ñî ñêîñîì, êàðàïàñ, ýëåâàòîðû ïîäà÷è áîåïðèïàñîâ ê 120 ìì îðóäèÿì, îêîíå÷íîñòè - 76 ìì Îñíîâàíèå ìà÷ò, äûìîâûõ òðóá, âåíòèëÿòîðîâ - 38 ìì https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/...%B5%D1%86) --- Âèëèíû,Êàðìàêîâû-Ïåòåðáóðã,ßðîñëàâñêàÿ ãóá.,Ìîñêâà
Áîæåíîâû,Àõìàòîâû-Òóëà,Ìîñêâà,Ïåòåðáóðã.
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... îïðåäåëÿòü ÷àñòü ïî öâåòàì â äàííîì ñëó÷àå -- "ãàäàíèå", ðåòóøü âñå èñêàçèëà.
Äâóáîðòíûé ìóíäèð îáð. 1907 ã., íîñèìûé â ïåðèîä 1909 - 1913 ãã.
Íå âèäèì óíòåðñêîãî ãàëóíà íà âîðîòíèêå, ó êîòîðîãî ðàññòåãíóò îäèí êðþ÷îê -- òåñíî ?
Ê.Ä., 28.04, 3:15.