Ðîññèéñêàÿ Èìïåðàòîðñêàÿ àðìèÿ è ôëîò - 2013 / 2019

slavjan56 íàïèñàë:

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ôîòîãðàôèÿ íå ìîÿ. Ïîïðîáîâàë êàäðèðîâàòü,è óâåëè÷èòü ðåçêîñòü, íî ÿ íè÷åãî ðàññìîòðåòü íå ñìîã.

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Êàäðèðîâàòü áåñïîëåçíî - íîâûõ äåòàëåé íå ïîÿâèòñÿ. Äâóõñòðî÷íàÿ øèôðîâêà îáû÷íî óêàçûâàåò íà òûëîâóþ ÷àñòü.  äàííîì ñëó÷àå ïîõîæå ÷òî â âåðõíåé ñòðîêå áîëüøàÿ è ìàëàÿ ëèòåðû - êàêîå-òî ñîêðàùåíèå. ×òî â íèæíåé ïîíÿòü íå ìîãó. Ýòî íå øèôðîâêà ìåñòíîé êîìàíäû, íî âîçìîæíî êàêèå-òî óïðàâëåíèå èëè øòàá.

Ñïàñèáî áîëüøîå çà îòâåòû.
 ñåìüå ïîòîìêîâ Ñåìåíîâà Íèêîëàÿ Âëàäèìèðîâè÷à îñòàëàñü ëåãåíäà î òîì, ÷òî îí áûë ïèñàðåì òî ëè ó Êåðåíñêîãî, òî ëè ó Êîðíèëîâà. Íî ïîäòâåðæäåíèÿ ýòîãî åùå íå óñòàíîâëåíû, íî âû ïîäòâåðäèëè ýòî â ñâî¸ì ïîñòó. Âîçìîæíî îò ýòîãî ó åãî îäåæäû òàêîé ôðåí÷åâàòûé ñòèëü.

"Äàâíåíüêî íå áðàë ÿ â ðóêè øàøåê..."

Òåìíî-çåëåíîå îáìóíäèðîâàíèå îáð. 1907 ã., îïèñàíèå â ïðèêàçå ïî âîåííîìó âåäîìñòâó ¹ 644 îò 22 äåêàáðÿ ò.ã., ââåäåíî ïð. ââ. ¹ 80 îò 19 ôåâðàëÿ 1908 ã., íîñèëîñü de facto â 1909 -1913 ãã.
left -- ìëàäøèé óíòåð-îôèöåð àðìåéñêîé ïåõîòû, âòîðîãî ïîëêà äèâèçèè ( ïîãîíû êðàñíûå, êëàïàíà íà âîðîòíèêå è îêîëûø ôóðàæêè - ñâåòëî-ñèíèå), êàêîãî -- , ò.ê. øèôðîâêà íà ïîãîíàõ íåäîñòóïíà...
Ôóðàæêà ñ êîçûðüêîì ó ñòðîåâîãî óíòåð-îôèöåðà ïîäñêàçûâàåò, ÷òî ýòî îäèí èç îêðóãîâ, ãäå ïîëîæåíû äî 1910 ã. ñòðîåâûì íèæíèì ÷èíàì ôóðàæêè ñ êîçûðüêàìè:
Âàðøàâñêèé, Âèëåíñêèé, Êèåâñêèé, Îäåññêèé, Êàâêàçñêèé / òàì ãäå äèñëîöèðîâàëèñü ïåõîòíûå äèâèçèè/.
À âîò ñâåòëî-ñèíèé êóøàê åìó íå ïîëîæåí...
Ðîäèëñÿ 14 ñåíò.1885 ã., çíà÷èò ê 1 îêòÿáðÿ 1906 ã. åìó ìèíóëî 21 ãîä è îí áûë ïðèçâàí, íà 3 ãîäà.
ØÈÔÐÎÂÊÀ íà ïîãîíàõ ïîìîæåò îïðåäåëèòü ÷àñòü.

Zabellisa íàïèñàë:

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Ñïàñèáî, ñêîïèðîâàëà ññûëêó ñ íàøåé òåìû, îñòàâèëà òàì
äàìà ïîäïèñàëà, ÷òî his birth was in Slutsk, Belarus.

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Ó íåå êàêàÿ-òî íåñòûêîâêà. Îíà íàïèñàëà, ÷òî "This photo is dated 1909, two years after he immigrated to the US" - ôîòî äàòèðîâàíî 1909-ì, äâóìÿ ãîäàìè ïîñëå åãî èììèãðàöèè â ÑØÀ.

Îíà ñìîæåò ïåðåâåñòè îòâåò ñ ðóññêîãî èëè íóæåí ïåðåâîä íà àíãëèéñêèé?

Maria Sandidge íàïèñàë:

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To the left is Ivan Slovasevitch(he changed his name many times) he lists his birth Sliva, Russia in Sept. 14,1885. We were told that he was with the Imperial Russian Army. This photo is dated 1909, two years after he immigrated to the US, via Galveston, Texas. Can anyone identify in specific, his uniform ? Thank you !

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Junior under-officer (on the left) and a soldier (on the right) of the Imperial Russian Army in dark green (practically black) uniform that was initially introduced in 1907 and issued to troops starting in 1909. This pattern was officially replaced by khaki field uniform in 1913 but brought back in 1914 when the WW1 started. Because of the uniform shortage during the war it was issued to various support and reserve units that were not in direct combat with the enemy. The light blue belt (a sash) is non-regulation detail that under-officers were not supposed to wear but it’s a common feature on many photographs from that time period.

The rank of the under-officer (sergeant) is indicated by 2 stripes on shoulder boards and gold lace on the coat’s collar and cuffs. Dark (red) shoulder boards and light (blue) collars and bands on peaked caps are colors of a second regiment of each infantry division. A particular regiment can be identified by either a number or a royal monogram on the shoulder boards. Unfortunately in this case the image resolution is too low to see anything. Theoretically it possible to try to guess the unit based on the city or town where the photo was taken.

In the Russian Empire the draft age was 21. DOB of September 1885 means that he was probably drafted in 1906. At that time the active service in the infantry lasted for 3 years