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Óâàæàåìàÿ Inga Ilves,

ÿ ñåãîäíÿ ïîëó÷èë ïîäòâåðæäåíèå, ÷òî â 1909 ãîäó Ìèõàèë Èíþøèí ÿâëÿëñÿ ñòóäåíòîì Þðüåâñêîãî óíèâåðñèòåòà. Ñìîòðåë â àðõèâíîé áàçå, êîòîðóþ Âû êîãäà-òî óêàçûâàëè, íî íå íàøåë óïîìèíàíèÿ ôàìèëèè. À â àíãëèéñêîé âåðñèè ñàéòà ñêàçàíî, ÷òî äîêóìåíòû Òàðòóññêîãî óíèâåðñèòåòà èìåþòñÿ ñ 1918 ãîäà. À ãäå æå òî, ÷òî äî 1918 ãîäà, èñêàòü?







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áàíêîâñêîé êàðòîé ìîæíî îïëàòèòü
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Ïî÷åìó æå... ïîèñê íà ñàéòå SAAGA íàõîäèò äîñòàòî÷íî ìíîãî ññûëîê ïî ôàìèëèè Kangropool
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Kangropool
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Voldemar Kangro-pool (Kangropool)
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Íàâåðõ   ## 13 ôåâðàëÿ 2016 20:16
Óâàæàåìûå ôîðóì÷àíå, ïîìîãèòå, ïîæàëóéñòà, ðàçîáðàòüñÿ.
Èùó ñëåäû Ìèõàèëà Íèêîëàåâè÷à Øåðàãèíà (Michaila Nikolajew Scheragin) - ñîãëàñíî ôîðìóëÿðíîìó ñïèñêó, îí çíà÷èòñÿ Ëèôëÿíäñêîé ãóáåðíèè Äåðïòñêîãî óåçäà ïðèïèñàííûì ê ãîðîäó Äåðïòó, èç ðàáî÷åãî îêëàäà.  1846 ãîäó âçÿò â ðåêðóòû.
Åñòü ëè â àðõèâå ïîñåìåéíûå ñïèñêè ðàáî÷åãî îêëàäà ãîðîäà Äåðïòà? Äîñòóïíû ëè îíè íà Saaga? Èëè ýòî íàäî ðåâèçèè ñìîòðåòü? ×òî-òî ÿ çàïóòàëàñü.
Íàäåþñü ÷åðåç Ìèõàèëà âûéòè íà îñòàëüíûõ Øåðàãèíûõ, õî÷ó âûÿñíèòü, îòêóäà îíè â 1826 ãîäó ïðèøëè â Íîé-Áåâåðñõîô Ëèôëÿíäñêîé ãóáåðíèè.
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Èùó: Áåñïàëîâ Ãðèãîðèé ßêîâëåâè÷, (1912 - 1943) õóòîð Ëèõîé Ðîñòîâñêîé îáëàñòè
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 1846 ãîäó âçÿò â ðåêðóòû.
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Íà ñàéòå SAAGA åñòü ðàçäåë Lists of recruits - ðåêðóòñêèå ñïèñêè. Ìîæåò áûòü òàì åãî ïîèñêàòü?
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Ïîñåìåéíûå ñïèñêè åñòü òèïà ïðàâîñëàâíûõ èñïîâåäîê, òîëüêî ãîðàçäî áîëåå èíôîðìàòèâíûå. Â ïðèõîäàõ Äåðïòà, êàê è â ëþáûõ äðóãèõ, ðàçäåë Personaalraamatud - ýòî è åñòü ïîñåìåéíûå ñïèñêè. Íî åñëè îí æèë â äðóãîì ìåñòå, òî åãî ìîæåò íå áûòü â ïðèõîäàõ Òàðòó (Äåðïòà, Þðüåâà). À âîò â ðåâèçèÿõ äîëæåí áûòü, åñëè ïðèïèñàí.
http://www.ra.ee/dgs/explorer....7c383204e0 ýòî ðåâèçèè 1858 ãîäà ïî ãîðîäñêîìó íàñåëåíèþ Òàðòó, åñëè íå îøèáàþñü
http://www.ra.ee/dgs/explorer....27b999bc6c ýòî ðåâèçèè 1850 ãîäà
http://www.ra.ee/dgs/explorer....6b00bb6f8d ýòî 1834 ãîäà
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Ëþá÷èíîâà Ñïàñèáî áîëüøîå, áóäó ïîòèõîíüêó ðàçáèðàòüñÿ! Âñå, ÷òî èçâåñòíî î Ìèõàèëå Øåðàãèíå, ÿ âçÿëà êàê ðàç èç òîãî ñóäåáíîãî äåëà. Äåçåðòèð è êîíîêðàä, íå î÷åíü-òî ïðèÿòíàÿ ëè÷íîñòü. Íî åñëè îí ïðèâåäåò ìåíÿ ê "ãíåçäó" Øåðàãèíûõ, âñå ïðîùó 101.gif
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Íàâåðõ   ## 14 ôåâðàëÿ 2016 11:52 14 ôåâðàëÿ 2016 12:56
Astrantia
Åñòü â Äåðïòå àëôàâèòíûé ðåãèñòð è òàì åñòü Øåðàãèíû. Ðàñêîëüíèêè.
Saaga EAA.1865.2.112/2:301?1396,1155,1081,388,0
Ìèõàèë Íèêîëàåâè÷ åñòü. òîëüêî îêëàä ìåùàíñêèé âðîäå (3). ìîãëè ïåðåïèñàòüñÿ â 1850 ãîäó...

Ðåâèçèè Äåðïòà òàêæå ëåæàò çäåñü
http://www.ra.ee/dgs/explorer....483642a998
ýòî ñêîðåå êîïèÿ, íî ìîæåò ïðèãîäèòñÿ.
Òàì åñòü: Revisionsliste Arbeiter-Raskolniken
Record EAA.997.1.852 1858

Âîò îíè:
Saaga EAA.1865.2.109/4:66?62,729,1146,318,0
íîìåð ðåâèçèè 1834 ã. - 434

äðóãèå Øåðàãèíû:
Saaga EAA.1865.2.109/2:64?40,758,1148,439,0
1834 - 174. Âîçìîæíî ñîéäóòñÿ â áîëåå ðàííèõ ãîäàõ.
Astrantia

Astrantia

Ðèãà, Ëàòâèÿ
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Íàâåðõ   ## 15 ôåâðàëÿ 2016 0:15
Ñïàñèáî îãðîìíîå! Áëàãîäàðÿ "íàâîäêàì" íàøëà èõ â ðåâèçèÿõ 1834 è 1816 ãîäîâ, äåéñòâèòåëüíî, îíè èç îäíîé ñåìüè!
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Íàâåðõ   ## 16 ôåâðàëÿ 2016 9:21
Ó êîãî-íèáóäü åñòü îïûò ïîëó÷åíèÿ áóìàæíûõ êîïèé èç ýñòîíñêîãî àðõèâà? Ýëåêòðîííûå çàêàçàëà è ïîëó÷èëà. Íî òåïåðü ìíå íóæíû áóìàæíûå êîïèè êîíêðåòíûõ ñòðàíèö. Íî ñ ïå÷àòÿìè àðõèâà. À ìíå îòâåòèëè ñëåäóþùåå. Ïîëó÷àåòñÿ, ÷òî çàâèçèðîâàòü êîïèè âîîáùå íåò íèêàêîé âîçìîæíîñòè?

You can order paper copies of the file, but I am afraid that we don´t put the archive´s seal on the copies. We can only stamp the paper copies, 0.10 euros a page. On the stamp is written the reference number of the file (fond, directory, file and the page number). But if you do decide to order paper copies, you would have to pay for the copies, stamping and the postal fee. You could just print out the copies and write the reference number on the back yourself.

If you need certifed copies, then you would have to apply for an archival notice (www.ra.ee/vau - archives enquiries). In that case we would issue you copies with the archivist´s signature, but again without the seal. For some years now we don´t issue any documents with the seal.

If you still want to order paper copies, you can submit your copy order through VAU as you did last time. You should write to the client comment field, that you want the copies stamped. But again, stamp is not a seal, it olny contains the reference numbers.
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Íàâåðõ   ## 8 ìàðòà 2016 21:38
Ïîõîæå, ìû ñ âàìè ðîäñòâåííèêè. Ó ìîåãî ïðàäåäà Êàíãðîïîëü ßêîâà Ìàðòèíîâè÷à (Kangropool Jaagup) (1881 ã.ð.) áûë áðàò - Àëåêñàíäð Ìàðòèíîâè÷ (1883 ã.ð.) Êàê ÿ ïîíÿëà ïî ìîèì ïîèñêàì â ýñòîíñêîì èñòîðè÷åñêîì àðõèâå, ôàìèëèÿ Kangropool ÷ðåçâû÷àéíî ðåäêàÿ. È â êîðíÿõ (1811 ãîä - ðåâèçñêèå ñêàçêè, 1826 ãîä óæå ñ ôàìèëèåé; à òàêæå ìåòðè÷åñêèå êíèãè) îíà ïðèíàäëåæàëà òîëüêî îäíîé ñåìüå, êîòîðàÿ âïîñëåäñòâèè ðàçðîñëàñü. Âñå íèæå ïðèâåäåííûå ññûëêè íà ýñòîíñêèé àðõèâ - ïðèíàäëåæàò èìåííî ýòîé ñåìüå.
Èç Ýñòîíèè ìîé ïðàäåä óåõàë âìåñòå ñ áðàòüÿìè (âîçìîæíî, äàæå âìåñòå ñ ðîäèòåëÿìè) ñíà÷àëà â ßìáóðã, ïîòîì â Ïåòåðáóðã, à ïîòîì â 1904 ãîäó â Ìèíóñèíñêèé êðàé, íåäàëåêî îò Àáàêàíà, çàòåì â Áàðíàóë (Àëòàéñêèé êðàé).
Èç êíèãè Ïàìÿòè Àëòàéñêîãî êðàÿ: "Àëåêñàíäð Ìàðòèíîâè÷ – 1883 ã.ð. ýñòîíåö, ñòîðîæ ïðîìàðòåëè «Ëååê». Ïðîæèâàë â ñåëå Ýñòîíèÿ Áåëîãëàçîâñêîãî ð-íà Àëòàéñêîãî êðàÿ. Àðåñòîâàí 4 èþíÿ 1938 ã. ïðèãîâîðåí òðîéêîé ïðè ÓÍÊÂÄ ïî ÀÊ 5 îêòÿáðÿ 1938 ã. îáâ. Ïî ñò. 58-2, 6,7,9,10, 11 ÓÊ. Ïðèãîâîð: 10 ëåò. Ðåàáèëèòèðîâàí 5 àâãóñòà 1958 ã. âîåííûì òðèáóíàëîì ÑèáÂÎ. Äåëî ïðåêðàùåíî çà îòñóòñòâèåì ñîñòàâà ïðåñòóïëåíèÿ."
Åùå îäèí áðàò - Èîñèô Ìàðòèíîâè÷ – 1874 ã.ð. ýñòîíåö, ñëåñàðü ïðîìàðòåëè «Ëååê». Ïðîæèâàë â ñåëå Ýñòîíèÿ Áåëîãëàçîâñêîãî ð-íà Àëòàéñêîãî êðàÿ. Àðåñòîâàí 4 èþíÿ 1938 ã. ïðèãîâîðåí ÓÍÊÂÄ ïî ÀÊ 16 àâãóñòà 1939 ã. îáâ. Ïî ñò. 58-10 ÓÊ. Äåëî ïðåêðàùåíî çà íåäîñòàòî÷íîñòüþ óëèê äëÿ ïðåäàíèÿ ñóäó.
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Àëüáåðò Àâãóñò Ãåðìàí (Albert August Herrmann) ðîäèëñÿ 1829-1830 â ã. Õàéëüñáåðã (Ãåèëüñáåðã), ïðîâèíöèÿ Âîñòî÷íàÿ Ïðóññèÿ (íûíå ã. Ëèäçáàðê-Âàðìèíñêè, Âàðìèíüñêî-Ìàçóðñêîå âîåâîäñòâî, Ïîëüøà), êàòîëèê, äàãåððîòèïíûé ìàñòåð.
 1856-1858 ïðèåõàë â Ýñòëÿíäñêóþ ãóáåðíèþ, ãäå áûëî ïÿòü ãîðîäîâ : 1) Ðåâåëü (Òàëëèíí), 2) Âåçåíáåðã (Ðàêâåðå), 3) Ãàïñàëü (Õààïñóëó), 4) Âåéñåíøòåéí (Ïàéäå), 5) Áàëòèéñêèé Ïîðò (Ïàëäèñê)).
Ïðåäïîëîæèòåëüíî ïðèåõàë èç Âîñòî÷íîé Ïðóññèè.
 1858 óåõàë â Îð¸ë (ÃÀÎÎ, ô. 580, ñòîë 2, îï. 1, ä. 1405, ë. 4).
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Âîïðîñû :
1) ×åðåç êàêèå ïóíêòû â 1856-1858 ìîæíî áûëî âúåõàòü â Ýñòëÿíäñêóþ ãóáåðíèþ èç Âîñòî÷íîé Ïðóññèè ?
2) Êàêèå îðãàíû çàäîêóìåíòèðîâàëè ïðèåçä ïðóññêîãî ïîääàííîãî â Ðîññèþ (òàìîæíÿ, êàíöåëÿðèÿ Ýñòëÿíäñêîãî ãóáåðíàòîðà, æàíäàðìû, Òðåòüå îòäåëåíèå Ñîáñòâåííîé Åãî Èìïåðàòîðñêîãî Âåëè÷åñòâà êàíöåëÿðèè, äð.) ?
3) Â êàêèõ àðõèâàõ Ýñòîíèè âûøåóêàçàííûå äîêóìåíòû ìîæíî íàéòè ?

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Èùó ñâåäåíèÿ î Ãåðìàí (Herrmann), Ñòîëüòåíáåíðã (Stoltenberg), Êðàñóñêèõ, Çåëåíêî, Îäèíã (Oding).
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