Óíèâåðñèòåò Æåíåâû
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå! Ïîíèìàþ, ÷òî ðàçäåë ïðî ðîññèéñêèå óíèâåðñèòåòû, íî âäðóã ñîâåòîì ïîìîæåòå. Ìîÿ ïðàáàáêà â 1913 ã. ïîëó÷èëà Doctore et Medicine â Æåíåâñêîì óíèâåðñèòåòå. ß áû õîòåë ïîïðîáîâàòü íàéòè åå ëè÷íîå äåëî, òàì ìîãóò áûòü âàæíûå ñâåäåíèÿ î ñåìüå , î ïðåäûäóùåì ìåñòå æèòåëüñòâà, îá îáðàçîâàíèè. Êóäà ïèñàòü?  Óíèâåðñèòåò èëè â êóäà-òî èíà÷å, êòî çíàåò? Ìîæåò çíàåòå êàêèå-òî ãåíåàëîãè÷åñêèå ðåñóðñû â Øâåéöàðèè? ÇÛ. Íà êàêîì ÿçûêå ïèñàòü? Äèïëîì, êàê Âû ïîíÿëè, íà ôðàíöóçñêîì, íî â ñîâðåìåííîé Øâåéöàðèè ïî êð ìåðå 3 ÿçûêà øèðîêî ðàñïðîñòðàíåíû ---
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ÓÑÏÅÍÑÊÈÅ (áåëîå äóõîâåíñòâî,íèæåãîð.), ÏÎÊÐÎÂÑÊÈÅ (áåëîå äóõîâåíñòâî, íèæåãîð.), ÑÅÌÅÍÎÂÛ (íèæåãîð.), ÁÎËÒÓØÊÈÍÛ (ÑÏá), ÂÅÉÑÎÂÛ (íèæåãîð.), Ñèìàíñêèå (íèæåãîð.), Äåäþëèíû (Ñïá) | | |
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2 äåêàáðÿ 2014 20:16 2 äåêàáðÿ 2014 20:26 Ìíå ïðèñëàëè îòâåò èç óí-òà Æåíåâû.
Ìîæåò ëè êòî-íèáóäü ïîäñêàçàòü - êàêèå óëèöû íàçâàíû â ïðèëàãàåìûõ äîêóìåíòàõ è íå ïåðåèìåíîâûâàëèñü ëè îíè?
ß íåìîãó èõ íàéòè íà ñîâðåìåííûõ êàðòàõ
Ïðèêðåïëåííûé ôàéë (InscriptionMedecine1.pdf, 448965 áàéò)---
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ÓÑÏÅÍÑÊÈÅ (áåëîå äóõîâåíñòâî,íèæåãîð.), ÏÎÊÐÎÂÑÊÈÅ (áåëîå äóõîâåíñòâî, íèæåãîð.), ÑÅÌÅÍÎÂÛ (íèæåãîð.), ÁÎËÒÓØÊÈÍÛ (ÑÏá), ÂÅÉÑÎÂÛ (íèæåãîð.), Ñèìàíñêèå (íèæåãîð.), Äåäþëèíû (Ñïá) | | |
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 ïî÷òå. Óë.Ôåðìû è Äîðîãà Âåëèêèõ Ôèëîñîôîâ (ñåé÷àñ åñòü áóëüâàð Â.Ô.). Î ïåðåèìåíîâàíèÿõ íå çíàþ.
Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Åëåíà Í. | | |
adroff Ñîîáùåíèé: 1757 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1038 | Íàâåðõ ##
2 äåêàáðÿ 2014 23:48 3 äåêàáðÿ 2014 0:15 bada íàïèñàë: [q] êàêèå óëèöû íàçâàíû â ïðèëàãàåìûõ äîêóìåíòàõ è íå ïåðåèìåíîâûâàëèñü ëè îíè[/q]
Chemin des Grands Philosophes 16 äîðîæêà, òðîïà, ïðîõîä=óëèöà âåëèêîãî ôèëîñîôà 16, ÿ äóìàþ, ÷òî ñåé÷àñ ýòî óëèöà Æàí-Æàêà Ðóññî (Rue Rousseau). à íà êàðòå ïîêàçûâàåò îòðåçîê, ãäå ñåé÷àñ äðóãàÿ óëèöà Boulevard Georges Favon îòðåçîê ìåæäó Rue Alexandre Calame & Rue Jean-Francois Bartholoni ---
Èùó èíôîðìàöèþ ïî ñëåäóþùèì ôàìèëèÿì:
ßêóøå(o)â, Ìàçóíèí = Ïåðìñêèé êðàé
Àäðîâ = Ìåëèòîïîëü, Îðëîâñêàÿ, ×åëÿáèíñêàÿ è Òþìåíñêàÿ îáëàñòè, Õàðáèí
Ñîëîâüåâû, Íîâèêîâû = Îðëîâñêàÿ îáë. | | |
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3 äåêàáðÿ 2014 0:07 3 äåêàáðÿ 2014 0:09 adroff, ñïàñèáî.
À ïî÷åìó Âû òàê äóìàåòå?
Òàì æå âðîæäå ìíîæåñòâåííîå ÷èñëî (-es)
 Æåíåâå ñåé÷àñ åñòü ïðîñòî áóëüâàð ôèëîñîôîâ, ïî÷åìó íå ìîæåò áûòü, ÷òî îí?
Ýõ... ñòàðóþ áû êàðòó Æåíåâû
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ÓÑÏÅÍÑÊÈÅ (áåëîå äóõîâåíñòâî,íèæåãîð.), ÏÎÊÐÎÂÑÊÈÅ (áåëîå äóõîâåíñòâî, íèæåãîð.), ÑÅÌÅÍÎÂÛ (íèæåãîð.), ÁÎËÒÓØÊÈÍÛ (ÑÏá), ÂÅÉÑÎÂÛ (íèæåãîð.), Ñèìàíñêèå (íèæåãîð.), Äåäþëèíû (Ñïá) | | |
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3 äåêàáðÿ 2014 0:18 bada íàïèñàë: [q] áóëüâàð ôèëîñîôîâ,[/q]
íàâåðíîå Âû ïðàâû, òàì ìí. ÷èñëî, à óëèöà Ðóññî ñóùåñòâóåò ñ 1793 ãîäà ---
Èùó èíôîðìàöèþ ïî ñëåäóþùèì ôàìèëèÿì:
ßêóøå(o)â, Ìàçóíèí = Ïåðìñêèé êðàé
Àäðîâ = Ìåëèòîïîëü, Îðëîâñêàÿ, ×åëÿáèíñêàÿ è Òþìåíñêàÿ îáëàñòè, Õàðáèí
Ñîëîâüåâû, Íîâèêîâû = Îðëîâñêàÿ îáë. | | |
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4 äåêàáðÿ 2014 18:25 Êîëëåãè, ïîäñêàæèòå, ÷òî èç ñåáÿ ïðåäñòàâëÿåò ãðîññáóõ, ôîòîãðàôèÿ ñòðàíèöû êîòîðîé ïðèêðåïëåíà ê òåêñòó ñîîáùåíèÿ (ïîëó÷èë ýòî ôîòî ñåãîäíÿ ïî e-mail).
Äîïîëíèòåëüíî, â òåêñòå ïèñüìà íàïèñàíî ÷òî ýòî:
"-The Notebook Serie (Cahier Souche) of Bachelor of Medical Sciences"
Òàêæå áûëî íàïèñàíî, ÷òî
"As you see in notebook Series, the diploma was torn and was put in possession of the student. So there is no degree at the University."
È òóò ÿ ïåðåñòàë ÷òî-ëèáî ïîíèìàòü. Ëèáî ñ ìîèì àíãëèéñêèì ÷òî-òî íå òàê, ëèáî øâåéöàðöû ì âëàäåþò åùå õóæå, ÷åì ÿ.
ß èçíà÷àëüíî äóìàë, ÷òî ýòà êíèãà ñîäåðæèò òåêñò ñàìîé äèïëîìíîé ðàáîòû (ïðîñòî âÿçëè âñå äèïëîìíûå ðàáîòû è ïîäùèëè â îäíó êíèãó). Íî ôîðìàò âûãëÿäèò ñòðàííûì, è áîëüøå ïîõîæ ïðîñòî íà ðåãèñòðöèîííóþ òåòðàäü. Íî òîãäà - çà÷åì îòâîäèòü öåëûé ëèñò íà îäíó çàïèñü?
À óæ êîììåíòàðèé î òîì, ÷òî " the diploma was torn and was put in possession of the student. So there is no degree at the University" âîîáùå ðàçðóøèë ìîå ïîíèìàíèå. Òî åñòü ÿ äóìàþ, ÷òî èìåëîâü â âèäó, ÷òî ñòóäåíò (Åëåíà Ñåìåíîâà) ñâîé äèïëîì ïðîñòî íàïðîñòî çàáðàëà, íî êàê ÿ ìîãó óâèäåòü ýòî èç ýòîé ôîòîãðàôèè (ôðàçùà â ïèñüå "As you see in notebook Series")
Èäåè? Êîììåíòàðèè?
Ïðèêðåïëåííûé ôàéë (CahierSoucheSemenoff.pdf, 252685 áàéò)---
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ÓÑÏÅÍÑÊÈÅ (áåëîå äóõîâåíñòâî,íèæåãîð.), ÏÎÊÐÎÂÑÊÈÅ (áåëîå äóõîâåíñòâî, íèæåãîð.), ÑÅÌÅÍÎÂÛ (íèæåãîð.), ÁÎËÒÓØÊÈÍÛ (ÑÏá), ÂÅÉÑÎÂÛ (íèæåãîð.), Ñèìàíñêèå (íèæåãîð.), Äåäþëèíû (Ñïá) | | |
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4 äåêàáðÿ 2014 18:42 4 äåêàáðÿ 2014 19:03 badabada íàïèñàë: [q] À óæ êîììåíòàðèé î òîì, ÷òî " the diploma was torn and was put in possession of the student. So there is no degree at the University" âîîáùå ðàçðóøèë ìîå ïîíèìàíèå. [/q]
Íó êàê-òî óæ ñòðàííî íàïèñàíî. Degree - ñòåïåíè, ò.å. bada íàïèñàë: [q] So there is no degree at the University[/q]
Íàäî ÷èòàòü êàê: ñòåïåíü íå ïðèñóæäàëàñü âîîáùå. Degree èìååò ÷åòêèé ñìûñë, â îòëè÷èè îò Diploma. bada íàïèñàë: [q] Íî ôîðìàò âûãëÿäèò ñòðàííûì, è áîëüøå ïîõîæ ïðîñòî íà ðåãèñòðöèîííóþ òåòðàäü. Íî òîãäà - çà÷åì îòâîäèòü öåëûé ëèñò íà îäíó çàïèñü?[/q]
Îíà è åñòü. Òàê ïðèíÿòî áûëî, íàâåðíîå. bada íàïèñàë: [q] ß èçíà÷àëüíî äóìàë, ÷òî ýòà êíèãà ñîäåðæèò òåêñò ñàìîé äèïëîìíîé ðàáîòû (ïðîñòî âÿçëè âñå äèïëîìíûå ðàáîòû è ïîäùèëè â îäíó êíèãó).[/q]
Ýòî òî÷íî íå âàðèàíò. Äèïëîìíàÿ ðàáîòà âñåãäà èäåò îòäåëüíûì òîìèêîì, åñëè âîîáùå ñîõðàíÿåòñÿ.  Ðîññèè 25 ëåò õðàíÿò âðîäå áû. bada íàïèñàë: [q] Òî åñòü ÿ äóìàþ, ÷òî èìåëîâü â âèäó, ÷òî ñòóäåíò (Åëåíà Ñåìåíîâà) ñâîé äèïëîì ïðîñòî íàïðîñòî çàáðàëà[/q]
Îíà äîëæíà áûëà çàáðàòü ñâîé äèïëîì, â ýòîì-òî è ñìûñë. Áîþñü, ÷òî ó ñîòðóäíèêà, êòî Âàì ïèñàë çíàíèå àíãëèéñêîãî "ïîòðÿñàþùåå". Âåðîÿòíî, ÷òî òàì íà ìåñòå torn êàêàÿ-òî îðôîãðàôè÷åñêàÿ îøèáêà. Ëèáî êîðÿâî ïåðåäàí ñìûñë "Äèïëîìíàÿ ðàáîòà óíè÷òîæåíà, äèïëîì ïåðåäàí ñòóäåíòó". Íå îíà? ÃÀÐÔ: À461 3 5991 Ñåìåíîâà Åëåíà Àëåêñàíäðîâíà 01 ôåâðàëÿ 1957 - 23 àâãóñòà 1957 [q] Íîìåð äåëà: 5991 Äåëîïðîèçâîäñòâåííûé íîìåð:
Ðóáðèêà îïèñè - óðîâåíü 1: Ãîðüêîâñêàÿ îáëàñòü Ðóáðèêà îïèñè - óðîâåíü 2: Íàäçîðíûå ïðîèçâîäñòâà ïî ñïåöäåëàì
Ðóáðèêà îïèñè - óðîâåíü 3: Ðóáðèêà îïèñè - óðîâåíü 4:
Çàãîëîâîê äåëà: Ñåìåíîâà Åëåíà Àëåêñàíäðîâíà
Àííîòàöèÿ:
Êðàéíèå äàòû äåëà: 01 ôåâðàëÿ 1957 - 23 àâãóñòà 1957
Êîëè÷åñòâî ëèñòîâ: 20[/q]
À461 9 6269 Ñåìåíîâà Åëåíà Àëåêñàíäðîâíà 29 ìàðòà 1949 - 09 èþëÿ 1949 [q] Íîìåð äåëà: 6269 Äåëîïðîèçâîäñòâåííûé íîìåð:
Ðóáðèêà îïèñè - óðîâåíü 1: 1949 ãîä Ðóáðèêà îïèñè - óðîâåíü 2: Ãîðüêîâñêàÿ îáëàñòü
Ðóáðèêà îïèñè - óðîâåíü 3: Íàäçîðíûå ïðîèçâîäñòâà ïî ñïåöäåëàì: Ðóáðèêà îïèñè - óðîâåíü 4:
Çàãîëîâîê äåëà: Ñåìåíîâà Åëåíà Àëåêñàíäðîâíà
Àííîòàöèÿ:
Êðàéíèå äàòû äåëà: 29 ìàðòà 1949 - 09 èþëÿ 1949
Êîëè÷åñòâî ëèñòîâ: 6[/q]
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4 äåêàáðÿ 2014 20:12 bada íàïèñàë: [q] "As you see in notebook Series, the diploma was torn and was put in possession of the student. So there is no degree at the University." [/q]
À êðîìå ýòîãî ôàíòàñòè÷åñêîãî íàáîðà ñëîâ â òåêñòå ïèñüìà ÷òî-òî åùå íàïèñàíî? Äðóãèå-òî ôðàçû ïîíÿòü ìîæíî? Èëè îíî âñå â òàêîì ñòèëå? | | |
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4 äåêàáðÿ 2014 23:51 5 äåêàáðÿ 2014 1:11 Kfin íàïèñàë: [q] À êðîìå ýòîãî ôàíòàñòè÷åñêîãî íàáîðà ñëîâ â òåêñòå ïèñüìà ÷òî-òî åùå íàïèñàíî?
Äðóãèå-òî ôðàçû ïîíÿòü ìîæíî? Èëè îíî âñå â òàêîì ñòèëå?[/q]
 öåëîì ìûñëü ïîíÿòíà: Please find attached : -two copies of paper sheets for both Bachelor and Doctorate degrees; (èç ÷åãî ñëåäóåò. ÷òî îáå ñòåïåíè Ñåìåíîâà ïîëó÷èëà, ïðèëîæåíû ëèñòî÷êè- ñì. âëîæåíèå -The Notebook Serie (Cahier Souche) of Bachelor of Medical Sciences; (ýòî òî, ÷òî áûëî â ïðåä. ïîñòå) -a copy of the list of graduates (DiesAcademicus) for the year 1913-1914 (for his doctorate. Bachelor's degree in medical sciences, as mentione top lists, not included). (ýòî êîïèÿ ñòðàíèöû êíèãè, â êîòîðîé ïåðå÷èñëåíû âñå ïîëó÷èâøèå äîêòîðñêóþ ñòåïåíü â äàííîì ãîäó ) As you see in notebook Series, the diploma was torn and was put in possession of the student. So there is no degree at the University. But, you can apply for a certificate from secretarial diplomas from the University of Geneva Sonia Kessler Sonia.Kessler@unige.ch I have spoken with her and shi is ready to send you the modalities sent of the certificate. (íó à ýòî òî, ÷òî ÿ íå ìîãó ïîíÿòü) Kfin íàïèñàë: [q] Íàäî ÷èòàòü êàê: ñòåïåíü íå ïðèñóæäàëàñü âîîáùå. Degree èìååò ÷åòêèé ñìûñë, â îòëè÷èè îò Diploma.[/q]
Íó ýòî î÷åâèäíî íå òàê èç ïðèâåäåííîãî äîêóìåíòà , ê òîìó æå ó ìåíÿ íà ðóêàõ ôîòîêîïèÿ ñàìîãî äèïëîìà (íå çíàþ, êàê ïðèêðåïèòü âòîðîé ôàéë, àòî áû ÿ ïîêàçàë) Andrey Maslennikov íàïèñàë: [q] Íå îíà?
ÃÀÐÔ: À461 3 5991 Ñåìåíîâà Åëåíà Àëåêñàíäðîâíà 01 ôåâðàëÿ 1957 - 23 àâãóñòà 1957
À461 9 6269 Ñåìåíîâà Åëåíà Àëåêñàíäðîâíà 29 ìàðòà 1949 - 09 èþëÿ 1949[/q]
Íå çíàþ. Ïî ìåñòó æèòåëüñòâó ïîõîæå, à áîëüøå ñóäèòü íå ïî÷åìó. Åñëè áû âû åùå õîòÿ áû ñêàçàëè, ÷òî ýòî çà ôîíä (÷üè äåëà â íåãî ïîïàäàëè). Åñëè ýòî êàê-òî ñâÿçàíî ñ ðåïðåññÿìè è ïîñëåäóþùåé ðåàáèëèòàöèåé, òî âïîëíå ìîæåò áûòü, ÷òî îíà ÇÛ. Êàê ó âàñ ó âñåõ ïîëó÷àåòñÿ íàéòè ÷òî-òî â ýòèõ îãðîìíûõ àðõèâàõ???? ß âñåãäà ïîëó÷àþ îòâåò â äóõå "ñåðâåð ðàçîðâàë ñîåäèíåíèå, íå îòïðàâèâ äàííûå" ñïóñòÿ 1.5 ìèíóòû îæèäàíèÿ
Ïðèêðåïëåííûé ôàéë (FichesDoctBach.pdf, 154730 áàéò)---
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ÓÑÏÅÍÑÊÈÅ (áåëîå äóõîâåíñòâî,íèæåãîð.), ÏÎÊÐÎÂÑÊÈÅ (áåëîå äóõîâåíñòâî, íèæåãîð.), ÑÅÌÅÍÎÂÛ (íèæåãîð.), ÁÎËÒÓØÊÈÍÛ (ÑÏá), ÂÅÉÑÎÂÛ (íèæåãîð.), Ñèìàíñêèå (íèæåãîð.), Äåäþëèíû (Ñïá) | | |
Andrey MaslennikovÌîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 4200 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2010 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 2671 | Íàâåðõ ##
5 äåêàáðÿ 2014 6:11 bada íàïèñàë: [q] As you see in notebook Series, the diploma was torn and was put in possession of the student. So there is no degree at the University.
But, you can apply for a certificate from secretarial diplomas from the University of Geneva Sonia Kessler Sonia.Kessler@unige.ch
I have spoken with her and shi is ready to send you the modalities sent of the certificate.[/q]
Ýòî èìåííî: Andrey Maslennikov íàïèñàë: [q] Ëèáî êîðÿâî ïåðåäàí ñìûñë "Äèïëîìíàÿ ðàáîòà óíè÷òîæåíà, äèïëîì ïåðåäàí ñòóäåíòó".[/q]
Íó è ïëþñ Âû ìîæåòå çàïðîñèòü ñåðòèôèêàò, ïîäòâåðæäàþùèé âûäà÷ó äèïëîìà. Âîò è âåñü ñìûñëû. Ïîñëåäíåå ïðåäëîæåíèå èìååò ñìûñë, ÷òî îíà ñ íåé ðàçãîâàðèâàëà è îíà (Êåññëåð) ãîòîâà ýòî ñäåëàòü. bada íàïèñàë: [q] Íå çíàþ. Ïî ìåñòó æèòåëüñòâó ïîõîæå, à áîëüøå ñóäèòü íå ïî÷åìó. Åñëè áû âû åùå õîòÿ áû ñêàçàëè, ÷òî ýòî çà ôîíä (÷üè äåëà â íåãî ïîïàäàëè). Åñëè ýòî êàê-òî ñâÿçàíî ñ ðåïðåññÿìè è ïîñëåäóþùåé ðåàáèëèòàöèåé, òî âïîëíå ìîæåò áûòü, ÷òî îíà[/q]
Íó òàê ïðîáåéòå ïî áàçå ÃÀÐÔ =) Ïëþñ, âñå ñêàçàíî: bada íàïèñàë: [q] Íàäçîðíûå ïðîèçâîäñòâà ïî ñïåöäåëàì[/q]
, òàê ÷òî ñâÿçàíî ñ ðåïðåññèÿìè è ðåàáèëèòàöèåé. bada íàïèñàë: [q] ÇÛ. Êàê ó âàñ ó âñåõ ïîëó÷àåòñÿ íàéòè ÷òî-òî â ýòèõ îãðîìíûõ àðõèâàõ???? ß âñåãäà ïîëó÷àþ îòâåò â äóõå "ñåðâåð ðàçîðâàë ñîåäèíåíèå, íå îòïðàâèâ äàííûå" ñïóñòÿ 1.5 ìèíóòû îæèäàíèÿ [/q]
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