LYSEN

Collin,

The territory of Lviv during 1921-1940 was a part of Poland as Lwów Voivodeship.


colinE-GB íàïèñàë:

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and the rest of his history is known up to his death in 1990.

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Do you have any immigration records when he came to England? The reason why I ask you is because LYSEN might have at least 6 possible russian transcriptions and I want to see what is the original last name with which he came to England. In my experience, for example, Buyanovsky (polish- Bujanowski) was written as Bonianovsky in England. Russian/Ukranian last names are not easily and uniformly converted to English.


colinE-GB íàïèñàë:

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We have applied to a german archive which should give us his hometown and that should make the search more easy.

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This is good. In Russian genealogy the knowledge of place is crucial.

Stefan Lysen: German Phone Directories, 1915-1981 (in German)
http://search.ancestry.com/bro...n&st=g


Andrey

Ïåðåâîä (îáà ïîñòà):

Ìîé òåñòü Ôåäîð Ëûñåíü áûë óêðàèíöåì. Îí ðîäèëñÿ 18.05.1921 â êðåñòüÿíñêîé ñåìüå ãäå-òî íåäàëåêî îò Ëüâîâà. Ðîäèòåëè - Äìèòðèé è Ïàðàñêà Ëûñåíü, ó íèõ áûëî ïÿòåðî äåòåé: Îëüãà, Ñîôèÿ, Ïàðàñêà, Ñòåôàí è Ôåäîð. Äìèòðèé óìåð â 1936-1937 ãã.
Ôåäîðà íåìöû óãíàëè â 1941 â Ãåðìàíèþ, â 1947 îí îêàçàëñÿ â Àíãëèè. Îñòàëüíàÿ ÷àñòü åãî æèçíè (óì. â 1990) íàì èçâåñòíà.

Ìû çàïðîñèëè íåìåöêèé àðõèâ - âîçìîæíî, òàì óêàçàíî ìåñòî ðîæäåíèÿ. Ìû õîòåëè áû óçíàòü, âûæèë ëè êòî-òî èç ðîäíè è áûëè áû ïðèçíàòåëüíû çà ëþáóþ èíôîðìàöèþ.

My wife says he never liked to be called Polish! He was very proud of his Ukranian roots. In England he went to a church bought by the Ukranian community so they could continue to worship in the Ukranian manner.
I have learned from another site that the Germans will have directly changed his name to the Western European spelling to LYSEN. However this may change once I hear from the German Archive service in Bad Arolsen.

Hi Colin,

I looked up names quoted by Geo Z, called the phone info center in Lviv and the first phone they gave me said - yes, his grandmother was Paraska Lysen from Shklo (poln. Szklo http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szk%C5%82o_%28osiedle%29).

You can write me for details.

Hi Colin,

sorry for the vain hope. The guy must be a bad genealogist (me too ), he is not your relative.
I also called the village Starychi where the most Lysens come from. The ladies in the village office were very excited and tried their best, but coul find no relation.

So it remains to wait for the answer from Germany and then to search more precisely.