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Äîí Êàðëîñ! Âñïîìèíàþ Âàñ äîáðûì ñëîâîì. Ñ Âàøåé ïîäà÷è íàøëà â Èðêóòñêå áðàòüåâ Ëèññíåðîâ Êàðëà è Âëàäèìèðà (Âîëüäåìàðà).

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È ñëàâà Áîãó! Ñî âðåìåíåì âñåõ íàéä¸òå.

À ýòî êòî?

Ñàìà ÿ ïðèíàäëåæó ðîäó Ëèññíåð.Ó ìåíÿ åñòü ðîäîñëîâíàÿ íà íåìåöêîì ÿçûêå ñ 1738 ã.Ìû â ðîäñòâå ñ Àðòóðîì Ãåøåëåì.Òàì òîæå åñòü î í¸ì óïîìèíàíèå.Ãåøåëü -ìóæ Âèëüãåëüìèíû Ýðíåñòîâíû Ëèññíåð,äâîþðîäíîé ñåñòðû îáåèõ áàáóøåê ìîåãî ïàïû.Òàêæå ìíå ò¸òóøêà(Ëèññíåð òîæå)ðàññêàçûâàëà,÷òî îíà ïîñëå âîéíû åçäèëà ê íåêîé áàáå Ôëîðå Çàéòö,êîòîðàÿ åé áûëà ðîäí¸é.(êñòàòè,Ëèññíåðû æèëè è ñåé÷àñ,áûòü ìîæåò,æèâóò â Ëàòâèè)À ïî êàêîé ëèíèè è êåì-íå çíàëà.Êîãäà áàáà Ôëîðà óìåðëà,òî íà ïîõîðîíàõ îäíà ðîäñòâåííèöà ïî ôàìèëèè Çàéòö ñêàçàëà :"äåâî÷êà,òû íàì âñ¸-òàêè ðîäñòâåííèöà"Íî íà íå¸ âñå çàøèêàëè,ñêàçàëè,"íåëüçÿ ýòîãî ãîâîðèòü!"Âðåìÿ áûëî ñëîæíîå,áîÿëèñü âñåãî.Òàê ìû îñòàëèñü â íåâåäåíüå-êòî íàì ýòè Çàéòö.Äóìàåì,÷òî Çåéòö è Çàéòö-îäíà è òà æå ôàìèëèÿ.

wetrowaleda@yandex.ru

Åñëè ó ìàìû Âàäèìà òàêîé îáøèðíûé àðõèâ, òî çà÷åì îí åù¸ äàâàë îáúÿâëåíèå è êîãî îí òîãäà èùåò?

My name is Ursula Lisners and I am the daughter of Eduard Lisners and Nina Domasevskis
I was born in Posen on March 30th 1941. My father and mother moved to Posen in 1939 from Riga, Latvia. My father had completed naval college in Latvia and was the captain of a ship. I have been searching for information about my family for many years, having travelled to Riga in 1994 and to Irkutsk in 2008. My Father's father was Carl lisners and his mother was Elizabeth Lisners. I don't know if they were related. They were married in Odessa and moved to Irkutsk where my father was born in 1912. (April 3rd). My father died in Adelaide in 1966 of a heart attack. My mother died in 2007 of cancer. I live in Adelaide, Australia. I would love to be in contact with relatives as we grew up without any . I speak Latvian, German and English.

Çäðàâñòâóéòå Óðñóëà! Î÷åíü ðàäà Âàøåìó ïèñüìó! ß æèâó â Ñàìàðå. Çàíèìàþñü ðîäîñëîâíîé. Ñîâñåì íåäàâíî óçíàëà, ÷òî ðîäñòâåííèêè ïî ìîåé ëèíèè æèâóò â Àâñòðàëèè. Ìîåãî ïðàäåäóøêó çâàëè Ãåíðèõ Âèëüãåëüì (1835-1900ã.ã.) - îí óìåð â Ìîñêâå, åãî æåíó Õåäâèãà Åãåð. Ãäå è êîãäà îíà óìåðëà íå çíàþ. Ó íèõ áûëî 6 äåòåé.
Ïðî Àäîëüôà Ýìèëÿ íè÷åãî íå çíàþ.
Ãåðìàí Àðòóð (1870-1901ã.ã.). Äî÷ü Ãåðìàíà Àðòóðà õóäîæíèê Åëåíà Ëèññíåð-Áëîìáåðã (1897-1978ã.ã.) -óìåðëà â Áåðëèíå. Ïðî å¸ äåòåé Êàòþ è Ìàéêëà íè÷åãî íå çíàþ.
Ãåíðèåòòà Ëþñè , ðîäèëàñü â 1879 ãîäó, çíàþ, ÷òî áûëà äâà ðàçà çàìóæåì Ñî âòîðûì ìóæåì óåõàëà â Ñåðáèþ â 1920 ãîäó.
Ãåíðèõ Îòòî (1872-1912ã.ã.) - ìîé äåäóøêà. Åãî æåíó çâàëè Âàëåñêà Ëóèçà Èîãàííà (1875-1928ã.ã.). Ó íèõ áûëî 7 äåòåé. 2 ìàëü÷èêà óìåðëè ïîäðîñòêàìè. Âàëåñêà, Ãåíðèõ, Ýðíà, Ìàðãàðèòà è Âîëüäåìàð (ìîé îòåö) äî 1941 ãîäà æèëè â Ìîñêâå. Ïîòîì èõ äîðîãè ðàçîøëèñü. Ñåé÷àñ â Ìîñêâå æèâóò ìîÿ äâîþðîäíàÿ ñåñòðà è å¸ äåòè, è äåòè äâîþðîäíîãî áðàòà. ß ÷àñòî áûâàþ â Ìîñêâå.  ïðîøëîì ãîäó îòâîçèëà ðîäñòâåííèêàì ðîäîñëîâíóþ. Âñåì áûëî î÷åíü èíòåðåñíî.
Åù¸ â Ìîñêâå æèâóò ïîòîìêè ìëàäøåãî ñûíà Ãåíðèõà Âèëüãåëüìà Éîõàíà Âîëüäåìàðà (ðîäèëñÿ â 1873 ãîäó). Êîãäà è ãäå óìåð íå çíàþ. Ïûòàëàñü ñâÿçàòüñÿ ñ åãî ïðàâíóêîì, íî îí íå îòâåòèë.
 Ìîñêâå æèâóò åù¸ ðîäñòâåííèêè - ýòî ïîòîìêè áðàòà Ãåíðèõà Âèëüãåëüìà -Ýðíåñòà è ñåñòðû Ëóèçû Èçàáåëëû.
ß Î÷åíü, î÷åíü ðàäà, ÷òî ïîëó÷èëà îò Âàñ ïîñëàíèå! ß î÷åíü âîëíóþñü. Ïðèøëèòå ìíå ôîòîãðàôèè è ðàññêàæèòå î ðîäñòâåííèêàõ ïîäðîáíåå.
Ìîé ýëåêòðîííûé àäðåñ: Íàäåæäà Ãëîìàäî glomado-nadegda@mail.ru ß Âàì âûøëþ Ðîäîñëîâíûå òàáëèöû.
Ñ óâàæåíèåì Íàäåæäà.
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