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31 ãîä äëÿ ìóæ÷èíû äëÿ ðîæäåíèÿ ïåðâîãî ðåá¸íêà ýòî ìíîãî? Äëÿ òîãî âðåìåíè?

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ß âñåì âñåãäà ãîâîðþ, ÷òî âîçðàñò íå èìååò íèêàêîãî çíà÷åíèÿ êàê òîãäà, òàê è ñåé÷àñ. ß íå ïîíèìàþ êîãäà ïûòàþòñÿ óñòàíàâëèâàòü êàêèå-òî âîçðàñòíûå öåíçû êàñàåìî âñòóïëåíèÿ â áðàê. Èìåííî ïî-ýòîìó íèêîãäà íå èíòåðåñîâàëñÿ êòî êîãäà è â êàêîì âîçðàñòå âñòóïàë â áðàê. Ñ÷èòàþ òàêóþ èíôîðìàöèþ ëèøíåé.
Æåëàíèå âñòóïèòü â áðàê äîëæíî èäòè îò ñåðäöà, à íå îò âîçðàñòà.
Ïðîñòèòå, åñëè íå îïðàâäàë Âàøèõ íàäåæä.

Åñòü îòêðûòêà äî 1917
Äðîáûøåâñêèé Ñòåïàí Ì.
Ìîñêâà òåëåãðàô äî âîñòðåáîâàíèÿ
ïèñàëè Äðîáûøåâñêèå À è Ì
Õðèñòîñü Âîñêðåñå

Óçíèê Äàõàó èç Øåïîòîâè÷åé.
ß íå ïîíÿëà, îí áûë ïåðåâåä¸í â èëè èç Áóõåíâàëüäà.

Last Name: DROBYSCHEWSKIJ
First Name: Iwan
Title:
Birth Day: 11
Birth Month: Mar
Birth Year: 1922
Birth Place: Scheptoowitski
Came From:
Residence (town): Scheptoowitski
Residence (street): Kr. Gomel
Prisoner Number: 121606
Date of Arrival: zug. 04 Nov 1944
Disposition: üb. 04 Dec 1944 Bu.
Disposition (translated): transferred 04 Dec 1944 Buchenwald
Category: Sch. R.
Category (translated): prisoner Russian
ID: 51595
Page: 1175/Scha.
Disk: 2
Frame: 840
https://stevemorse.org/dachau/...;image=840

Äîáàâëþ äâîèõ, íå î÷åíü àêòóàëüíûõ. Íî, âäðóã, ëåò ÷åðåç äâàäöàòü, ïðèãîäÿòñÿ.

Îäèí ìîæåò áûòü èç áåëîé ýìèãðàöèè. (À, ìîæåò áûòü, è íåò). Óêàçàíà Ëþáëÿíà, íî íèæå íàïèñàíî - çàêëþ÷¸ííûé ñëîâàê. (Ñëîâåí, ñëîâàê - áåç ðàçíèöû òîãäà áûëî?)
Gnidovčeva ulica ïåðåèìåíîâàíà â 1952 ã. â Kajuhova ulica

Last Name: DROBEZ
First Name: Franz
Title:
Birth Day: 08
Birth Month: Jan
Birth Year: 1916
Birth Place: Vernig Kr. Littai
Came From:
Residence (town): Laibach
Residence (street): Gnidovceva 9
Prisoner Number: 142825
Date of Arrival: zug. 05 Mar 1945
Disposition: befr. Überlingen
Disposition (translated): liberated Überlingen
Category: Sch. Slov.
Category (translated): prisoner Slovakian
ID: 78136
Page: 1174/Fa.
Disk: 2
Frame: 843

https://stevemorse.org/dachau/...;image=843


Åñòü ó ìåíÿ òåîðèÿ, ÷òî Äðîáûøè èçíà÷àëüíî æèëè â Ñèëåçèè. Ïîýòîìó ïðèâîæó âòîðîãî:

Last Name: DROBISCH
First Name: Adolf
Title:
Birth Day: 15
Birth Month: Jun
Birth Year: 1883
Birth Place: Zalezie
Came From:
Residence (town): Bismarckhütte
Residence (street): Lideritscht.
Prisoner Number: 26266
Date of Arrival: zug. 13 Jun 1941
Disposition: üb. 05 Jul 1941 Bu.
Disposition (translated): transferred 05 Jul 1941 Buchenwald
Category: Sch. VD.
Category (translated): prisoner German
ID: 78143
Page: 1174/Fa.
Disk: 2
Frame: 843

https://stevemorse.org/dachau/...;image=843

Æèë â
Bismarckhütte (ïîëüñêèå íàçâàíèÿ: Bismarckhuta èëè Ìåòàëëóðãè÷åñêèé çàâîä Áèñìàðêà) – íàñåëåííûé ïóíêò, â íàñòîÿùåå âðåìÿ ïðèíàäëåæèò ðàéîíó Õîæóâ Áàòîðèÿ.
Ðîäèëñÿ â
Çàëåñüå - ñåëî â àäìèíèñòðàòèâíîì îêðóãå ãìèíà-Òîøåê, â ïðåäåëàõ Ãëèâèöêîãî óåçäà, Ñèëåçñêîå âîåâîäñòâî, â þæíîé Ïîëüøå. Îí íàõîäèòñÿ ïðèìåðíî â 4 êì ê þãî-çàïàäó îò Òîøåêà, â 22 êì ê ñåâåðî-çàïàäó îò Ãëèâèöå è â 44 êì ê ñåâåðî-çàïàäó îò ñòîëèöû ðåãèîíà Êàòîâèöå.


Èñêàòü äðóãèõ:
https://stevemorse.org/dachau/dachau.html

×òî íàïèñàíî, ÿ íå çíàþ, â êíèãå íà ñòð. 34
Title:
Przydomki polskie, litewskie i rusińskie
Creator:
Stekert, Aleksander
Publisher:
nakładem autora
Place of publication:
Kraków
Date:
1897

pk. ýòî przydomek ïðîçâèùå

Íàâåðíîå, êîððåêòíî ïåðåâåñòè òàê:
Ðîäû ïîëüñêèå, ëèòîâñêèå è ðóññêèå.

http://www.kpbc.ukw.edu.pl/dlibra/plain-content?id=35282

pdf çäåñü:
http://rcin.org.pl/Content/12802/przydom.pdf

Çàäàëà âîïðîñ, ðàññ÷èòûâàÿ ïîëó÷èòü «äà» èëè «íåò», à ïîëó÷èëà øèêàðíûé ðàçâ¸ðíóòûé îòâåò, êîòîðûì è äåëþñü. Ðå÷ü èä¸ò î ïåðåâîäå ñëîâà
<przydomek>

Çàòðóäíÿþñü ñêàçàòü, êàê ýòî áóäåò ïî-ðóññêè; ì.á., áëèæå âñåãî òåðìèí êîãíîìåí .

Åñòåñòâåííî, ïîëüñêèé przydomek ýòî íå ñîâñåì ðèìñêèé êîãíîìåí, íî íå÷òî áëèçêîå ïî ôóíêöèè è ñìûñëó.
Ñëîâî ïðèäîìîê åñòü â ìîâå, î÷åâèäíûé ïîëîíèçì .
Ôàìèëèè øëÿõòû â îñíîâíîì ïðîèñõîäèëè îò íàçâàíèÿ èìåíèÿ, ïîòîìó â ñåìåéíîì ãíåçäå (ïðè äîìå øëÿõòû), ÷òîáû íå ïóòàòü îäíîôàìèëüöåâ, ïîëüçîâàëèñü èìåíàìè-ïðèäîìêàìè.

Íî åñëè ñìîòðåòü â îáùåì, êîíå÷íî, ïðèäîìêè ñòàëè â êîíå÷íîì èòîãå ôàìèëèÿìè ðîäîâ â ñîâðåìåííîì ñìûñëå.

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