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Ñþðïðèç! Ó ìàìû ãàïëîãðóïïà N9a3. Äîâîëüíî ðåäêàÿ, íà 23èß âñåãî 8 (?) ÷åëîâåê èç ïðîòåñòèðîâàâøèõñÿ èìåþò ýòó ãðóïïó. Áóäó æäàòü îêîí÷àòåëüíûõ ðåçóëüòàòîâ.


https://forum.molgen.org/index...#msg145843
Mich Glitch
Haplogroup N9a.
Haplogroup N9a is characteristic of eastern Asian populations, where it is detected at a highest frequencies in Japan (4.6%), China (2.8%), Mongolia (2.1%) and Korea (3.9%) [8], [21], [32], [34]. Haplogroup N9a is rare in Taiwan (1.2%) and Island southeastern Asia (1.1%) [22], [30], but appears at greater frequencies in Mainland southeastern Asia (1.5–4.5%) [24], [33]. With the comparable frequencies this haplogroup is detected in several populations of northern (0.9%–4.6%) and central Asia (1.2–2.5%), but it is virtually absent in western and southern Asia [8], [32], [35], [36]. Interestingly, haplogroup N9a is rarely found in the Volga-Ural region Tatars (~1%) and Bashkirs (1.5%) as well as in some eastern Europeans, like Russians from southwestern Russia (1.5%) and Czechs (0.6%) [37]–[40].

In the current study we have reconstructed the phylogeny of haplogroup N9a based on 59 complete mtDNA genomes including ten newly sequenced samples and revised the classification of this haplogroup that was defined earlier as having seven main branches – N9a1'3; N9a2'4'5; N9a6–N9a10 [18]. Information from complete mtDNA sequencing reveals that Buryat sample (Br_623) and previously published Japanese sample (HNsq0240) from Tanaka et al. [21] share mutations at nps 11368 and 15090 and therefore belong to a rare N9a8 haplogroup (Figure S3). It should be noted that these two sequences showed deep divergence with each other being characterized by unique sets of seven and six mutations respectively. As follows from phylogenetic analysis data, our Barghut sample (Bt_81) shares transversions at nps 4668 and 5553 with two published Japanese samples [21] and therefore can be ascribed to a previously reported subcluster N9a2a3, Tatar sample (Tat_411G) which is identical to Japanese sample KAsq0018 [21] is a part of N9a2a2, Khamnigan (Khm_36) and Korean (Kor_87) mtDNAs belong to N9a1, whereas Korean (Kor_92) and Buryat (Br_433) variants can be identified as members of N9a3. Interestingly, Russian (Rus_BGII-19) and Czech (CZ_V-44) samples bearing transitions at nps 4913 and 12636 apparently belongs to a new subbranch N9a3a within haplogroup N9a3. Despite the low coalescence time estimates obtained for N9a3a (~1.3–2.3 kya) it is quite probable that its founder had been introduced into eastern Europe much earlier taking into account the age of a whole N9a3 estimated as 8–13 kya and the discovery of a N9a haplotypes in a Neolithic skeletons from several sites, located in Hungary and belonged to the Körös Culture and Alföld Linear Pottery Culture, which appeared in eastern Hungary in the early 8th millennium B.P. [41], [42].

Íó ñâîè ðåçóëüòàòû ÿ çíàþ, à ïîòîì óâèäåëà åù¸ 8õ è âñ¸.... èëè Âàñ èíòåðåñóåò èìåííî êàê??...
- Íàæàëà íà ýòîé êàðòèíêå íà N9a3 - è ÿ òàê ïîíÿëà ñèñòåìà îòñîðòèðîâàëà ìîèõ ñîâïàäåíöåâ ïî ýòîìó ïðèíöèïó= ïîêàçàëà òîëüêî èìåþùèõ ãàïëîòèï N9a3.

Âûõîäèò ïî âñåìó, ÷òî è êèòàÿíêà!.... Î÷åíü íåîæèäàííî.
Ãðóïïó íà 23èß âèäåëà.. ìíîãèå êðàéíå óäèâëåíû , çà ìàìîé è çà ñîáîé íèêîãäà íè÷åãî êèòàéñêîãî íå çàìå÷àëà... ìîæåò îíè ðåçóëüòàòû ïåðåïóòàëè - íàøè ñ ÷óæèìè??


kbg_dnepr íàïèñàë:

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÷òî íå âåñü íàðîä ñ N9a3 ìîæåò áûòü ó Âàñ â ñîâïàäåíöàõ

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ÿ ïîíÿëà, ÷òî âåñü.... èìåþùèå N9, à "à" ó íèõ äðóãàÿ ïðèñóòñòâóþò íà ñàéòå, íî òåõ, êîòîðûå ïðîñòî à3 - êàê ó ìîåé ìàìû - íå ìíîãî - âñåãî 8 ÷åëîâåê!

"N9a is a rare haplogroup, which having originated in East Asia about 23,000 years ago, later migrated westward into central Asia. The haplogroup is widespread in Asia today, but extremely rare. Though it may have arrived in East Asia prior to the spread of agriculture, its presence in Southeastern Asia may be the result of the spread of rice agriculture from China 10,000 years ago." - öèòàòà èç ñàéòà - ãîâîðÿò - ðåäêàÿ ãðóïïà.

Èíòåðåñíî, åñëè ÿ ñàìà ïðîòåñòèðóþñü, òî âûÿñíèòñÿ, ÷òî ÿ òîé æå ãðóïïû?

kbg_dnepr íàïèñàë:

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íó êàêàÿ ðàçíèöà, èõ 8 èëè 80? Êàê ïî ìíå, ãëàâíîå - ýòî ñêîëüêî ó Âàñ áëèçêèõ ñîâïàäåíöåâ è èäóò ëè îíè íà øåðèíã.

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ñîãëàñíà..ýòî òîëüêî íà÷àëî - áóäåì æäàòü, ê ñîæàëåíèþ, îî÷åíü ìàëî ñâåäåíèé ó íàñ ïî ïðÿìîé æåíñêîé ëèíèè, äàæå åñëè áóäåò áëèçêèé ñîâïàäåíåö - êàê åãî "îïîçíàòü"??

Íà Ìîëãåíå òîëüêî 2 ÷åëîâåêà ñ N - òàêè ðåäêàÿ!..