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Ïðèõîäû è öåðêâè Òóëüñêîé åïàðõèè 1895ã. çäåñü
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Êóäåâåðü Íîâîðæåâ. ó. Ïñêîâñêîé ãóá.; Ëåíèíãðàä: ÁÅËÀÂÈÍÑÊÈÅ
Êàçà÷üÿ ñëîáîäà ×åðíñêîãî ó. Òóëüñêîé ãóá.: ØÀÒÊÎÂÛ, ØÀÖÊÈÅ/ØÀÄÑÊÈÅ
Íîâîñèëüñêèé ó. Òóëüñêîé ãóá.: ÁÐÓÑÅÍÖÅÂÛ (Ïîëÿíêè); ÇÎËÎÒÓÕÈÍÛ (Âûñîêàÿ; Ìåëûíü; Íèæíÿÿ Ñàâèíà), ÀËÅÊÑÅÅÂÛ (Ìåëûíü)
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå. Ìîè ïðåäêè áûëè êðåñòüÿíàìè ïîìåùèêà Øàòèëîâà. Ïîñëå 1857 ã. æèëè â Êðûìó. Âîçìîæíî, ïðèáûëè èç Íîâîñèëüñêîãî óåçäà. Ôàìèëèè Ìîðêèíû (Ìàðêèíû) è Ïîëþøêèíû.
Ìîæåò áûòü âñòðå÷àëèñü êîìó íèáóäü ýòè ôàìèëèè.
Ïîäñêàæèòå ïîæàëóéñòà, åñòü ëè ãäå-íèáóäü ñïèñêè êðåñòüÿí ïîìåùèêîâ Øàòèëîâûõ?
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Ìîè ïðåäêè áûëè êðåñòüÿíàìè ïîìåùèêà Øàòèëîâà.
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Ó ÃÀÒÎ ðåàëèçîâàí ïîèñê ïî êàòàëîãó. Íå 100%, íî ïî ôàìèëèÿì ìîæíî ìíîãî ÷åãî íàéòè:

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Ôàìèëèè ñâîèõ ïðåäêîâ ìîæåò äîïîëíèòåëüíî ïðîðàáîòàòü ïî ñàéòå "Ãåðîè âîéíû 1914-1918". Ìîæåò êàêèå ëèáî âåòâè îñòàâàëèñü â Íîâîñèëüñêîì óåçäå.

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Ïóøêèíî, Ìîñêîâñêàÿ îáë.
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå. Ìîè ïðåäêè áûëè êðåñòüÿíàìè ïîìåùèêà Øàòèëîâà. Ïîñëå 1857 ã. æèëè â Êðûìó. Âîçìîæíî, ïðèáûëè èç Íîâîñèëüñêîãî óåçäà. Ôàìèëèè Ìîðêèíû (Ìàðêèíû) è Ïîëþøêèíû.
Ìîæåò áûòü âñòðå÷àëèñü êîìó íèáóäü ýòè ôàìèëèè.
Ïîäñêàæèòå ïîæàëóéñòà, åñòü ëè ãäå-íèáóäü ñïèñêè êðåñòüÿí ïîìåùèêîâ Øàòèëîâûõ?
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Íà âñêèäêó, Øàòèëîâû âëàäåëüöû â Ìîõîâîì, Êàðíàäè.
Âû ñìîòðåëè ó ìîðìîíîâ ìåòðèêè? Åñëè íå îøèáàþñü îíè åñòü ó íèõ ïî Êðûìó. Îáû÷íî, òàì ïèøóò, êðåñòüÿíå òàêîé òî äåðåâíè. Ýòî, êîíå÷íî ïðè óñëîâèè, ÷òî îíè ïðèåõàëè íà çàðàáîòêè, äà òàì è îñòàëèñü

ps/ Óâèäåëà Âàøè âîïðîñû â âåòêå ïî Êðûìó. Ïîëó÷àåòñÿ, ÷òî êðåñòüÿí ïåðåâåëè â 1864ã? Îòêóäà, íåèçâåñòíî.
À, êàê èíèöèàëû ïîìåùèêà? È êàêèå åùå ôàìèëèè ó êðåñòüÿí åñòü, íåîáû÷íûå, ÷òîáû çàöåïèòüñÿ?
À òàê íàâåðíîå, íóæíî èñêàòü äîêóìåíòû î ïåðåâîäå, èëè ïðîñìàòðèâàòü ðåâèçèè ïî ýòèì ïîìåùèêàì


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Êðåñòüÿí ïåðåâåëè òóäà, ÿ äóìàþ, â 1855-1856ã.. ïîñêîëüêó çàïèñè â ìåòðèêàõ íå âñòðå÷àþòñÿ óæå â 1855 ã.
Èíèöèàëû ïîìåùèêà íå óêàçàíû â ìåòðèêàõ. Íàïèñàíî òàê "ïîìåùèêà Øàòèëîâà äåðåâíè Òàìàê êðåñòüÿíèí òàêîé òî".  1858 ãîäó óæå î÷åíü ìíîãî òàêèõ çàïèñåé.
Ôàìèëèè êðåñòüÿí, âûïèñàííûå èç ìåòðèê 1857-1858 ã. Èëüèíñêîé öåðêâè ã. Êàðàñóáàçàðà ïîìåùèêà Øàòèëîâà:
(Ïðèìå÷àíèå: â ðàçíûõ çàïèñÿõ ôàìèëèè çàïèñàíû ïî ðàçíîìó. Âàðèàöèè ïðåäñòàâëåíû)
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À äîêóìåíòû î ïåðåâîäå â êàêîì àðõèâå íàäî èñêàòü:êóäà ïåðåâåëè êðåñòüÿí èëè îòêóäà?
Øàòèëîâ Èîñèô Íèêîëàåâè÷ âëàäåë â Êðûìó äåðåâíåé Òàìàê, êîòîðàÿ åìó äîñòàëàñü îò äÿäè Èâàíà Âàñèëüåâè÷à Øàòèëîâà â 1852 ã.
Èìåíèå åãî äÿäè-Äæàïàðè (Äæàôàð, Äæåïàð), íûíå Ñåâåðíîå.
Ä. Êîðïå (Öâåòóùåå) òîæå èõ .
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Ýòó èíôîðìàöèþ ÿ íàøëà â Âèêèïåäèè.
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Íà ñàéòå ñ 2019 ã.
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