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Äîáðîãî âðåìåíè ñóòîê! Ïîäñêàæèòå ñîõðàíèëèñü ëè ìåòðè÷åñêèå êíèãè ïî ñ. Êàðïîâè÷è Íîâîçûáêîâñêîãî óåçäà? Èíòåðåñóþò 1914, 1904 ãã, äà è âîîáùå â ïðèíöèïå ëþáûå ãîäà ïî ýòîìó ñåëó.
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Äîáðûé äåíü, ìåíÿ òîæå èíòåðåñóåò èíôîðìàöèÿ ïî ñ. Êàðïîâè÷è. Êîå-÷òî óäàëîñü íàéòè, íî ìàëî. Âàñ èíòåðåñóþò èìåííî ìåòðè÷åñêèå êíèãè? À ó âàñ ÷òî åñòü?


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Ìåòðè÷åñêàÿ êíèãà
ÃÀ×Î. Ôîíä 679, îïèñü 10, äåëà 3280, 3282.
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Êàðïîâè÷è (Íîâîçûáêîâ).

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Ïðàâîñëàâíàÿ öåðêîâü. Êàðïîâè÷è (Íîâîçûáêîâ)

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Ôîíä 679, îïèñü 1, äåëà 308, 310, 319-322, 326, 382, 388-389, 393, 397-398, 452, 490.
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Ô. 679, î. 1, ä. 322 (ïðîäîëæåíèå) Èñïîâåäíûå âåäîìîñòè 1775 (ñòð. 461-478)
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Ìåòðè÷åñêèå êíèãè : Ìèõàèëî-Àðõàíãåëüñêàÿ öåðêîâü, 1798
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Äîáðîãî âðåìåíè ñóòîê! Ïîäñêàæèòå ñîõðàíèëèñü ëè ìåòðè÷åñêèå êíèãè ïî ñ. Êàðïîâè÷è Íîâîçûáêîâñêîãî óåçäà? Èíòåðåñóþò 1914, 1904 ãã, äà è âîîáùå â ïðèíöèïå ëþáûå ãîäà ïî ýòîìó ñåëó.
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Äîáðûé äåíü, ÿ â ñâî¸ âðåìÿ òîæå ðàçìåùàë íà ôîðóìå âîïðîñû ïî ñ. Êàðïîâè÷è.
Òàê ïîëó÷èëîñü, ÷òî çäåñü ìíå ìàëî ïîìîãëè.  îñíîâíîì ïîìîãëè ñ íàïðàâëåíèåì ïîèñêîâ. Âñå îñòàëüíîå ïëàòíàÿïîìîùü â ×åðíèãîâå. Äà è ýòà âîçìîæíîñòü ñåé÷àñ âèäèìî îòïàëà â ñâÿçè ñ èçâåñòíûìè ñîáûòèÿìè íà Óêðàèíå è â ×åðíèãîâå â ÷àñòíîñòè.
À âàì ÷òî-íèáóäü óäàëîñü íàêîïàòü ïî Êàðïîâè÷àì?
Åñëè Êîíòàêòû ïðîäîëæàòñÿ, òî äëÿ èõ îáëåã÷åíèÿ ìåíÿ çîâóò Ãåííàäèé Ïàâëîâè÷.
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Ãîãåí íàïèñàë:
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ñ. Êàðïîâè÷è Íîâîçûáêîâñêîãî óåçäà
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Êàðïîâè÷è, Íîâîðîïñêàÿ âîëîñòü, Íîâîçûáêîâñêèé óåçä
Êàðïîâè÷è, Ñåìåíîâñêèé ðàéîí, ×åðíèãîâñêàÿ îáëàñòü
Öåðêîâíûé ïðèõîä - Ìèõàéëîâñêàÿ öåðêîâü ñ. Êàðïîâè÷è
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ÃÀ×Î.
Ôîíä 679, îïèñü 1, äåëà 308, 310, 319-322, 326, 382, 388-389, 393, 397-398, 452, 490.
Ô. 679, î. 1, ä. 308 Èñïîâåäíûå âåäîìîñòè 1744 (ñòð. 479-492)
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Äðóçüÿ, ïîäñêàæèòå êóäà äâèãàòüñÿ äàëüøå. Ìû íàøëè ñâîèõ èñêîìûõ ïðåäêîâ â ïåðåïèñè åâðååâ çà 1882 è 1888 ãîä. Æèëè îíè â ñåëå Êàìåííûé Õóòîð , Íîâîçûáêîâñêèé óåçä, ×åðíèãîâñêîé ãóáåðíèè. Âîîáùå èñêàëè ïðàäåäà, èìÿ Íàóì (Íîõèì). Âîò â ïåðåïèñè îí ôèãóðèðóåò êàê ñûí Ãîëóáîâñêèé, êîòîðîìó 30 ëåò (íà ìîìåíò 1882 ã). Òî åñòü îí 1852 ãîäà ðîæäåíèÿ. Ïîòîì Íîõèì æåíèëñÿ è ðîäèë òðîèõ äî÷åðåé : Èäó 1895 ã.ð., Áåëëó 1897ã.ð. è Ñîôüþ 1899 ã.ð. Íî äàííûõ îá ýòîì íèêàê íå íàéäåì. Òî åñòü èíòåðåñóåò ïåðåïèñü óæå ïîñëå 1895/97 ãîäà. Íàâåðíÿêà òàêèå áûëè? Ïîäñêàæèòå, ïîæàëóéñòà, ãäå èñêàòü.
Çíàþ, ÷òî åñòü Äåëî ¹ 4121: Ñïèñêè åâðååâ Íîâîçûáêîâñêîãî óåçäà, 1910 ãîä. Êàê ìîæíî íàéòè â îöèôðîâêå?

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georgie57 íàïèñàë:
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ãäå îíè ðàáîòàëè, âîçìîæíî, çíàåòå? Íå íà ñïè÷å÷íîé ôàáðèêå?
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Ñòîèò ó÷åñòü, ÷òî åñòü ã. Çëûíêà (îíà æå ïîñàä) è åñòü ñò.Çëûíêà (ïãò. Âûøêîâ).
Åñëè íå èçìåíÿåò ïàìÿòü, òî äî ðåâîëþöèè ñïè÷å÷íûõ ôàáðèê òàì áûëî íåñêîëüêî:

"Çëûíêà ñëàâèëàñü èñêóñíûìè ìàñòåðàìè ïî èçãîòîâëåíèþ óïðÿæè, èçäåëèé èç ñòåêëà, êîòîðîå âûðàáàòûâàëîñü â âîñüìè ñåëàõ. Çëûíêîâñêèå óìåëüöû ñóìåëè îòëè÷èòüñÿ äàæå â èçãîòîâëåíèè òàêîé íåõèòðîé âåùè, êàê ñïè÷êà: èç âîñüìè ôàáðèê - ïÿòü èìåëè äèïëîìû ìåæäóíàðîäíûõ âûñòàâîê ñïè÷åê. Ýêîíîìè÷åñêîìó ïîäúåìó ãîðîäà ñïîñîáñòâîâàëà ïðîøåäøàÿ îêîëî íåãî â 1883 ãîäó æåëåçíàÿ äîðîãà. Ê 1910 ãîäó â ãîðîäå áûëî 8 öåðêâåé è 6 ðàñêîëüíè÷üèõ ñêèòîâ. Ê òîìó æå ñàìà Çëûíêà îáëàäàëà ñâîèì îñîáûì, íåïîâòîðèìûì àðõèòåêòóðíûì êîëîðèòîì."


Elrozan íàïèñàë:
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Îòëè÷èòåëüíàÿ îñîáåííîñòü ñåìüè - ñòàðîîáðÿäöû, è ñóäÿ ïî ðàññêàçàì, ýòî áûëà ñåìüÿ æåñòêèõ ñòðàðîîáðÿä÷åñêèõ ïðàâèë è ýòî áûëî íå îäíî ïîêîëåíèå.
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Äëÿ Çëûíêè òåõ âðåìåí ýòî áûëî íå îòëè÷èòåëüíàÿ îñîáåííîñòü, à íîðìà - îñíîâàëè åå ñòàðîîáðÿäöû (â òîì ÷èñëå âûõîäöû èç áåëîðóññêîé Âåòêè, êîòîðûå òàê æå îñíîâàëè Ïîêðîâñêèé ìîíàñòûðü â ðàéîíå ñ. Ìèòüêîâêà ).

" Ìíîãèå ïóòåøåñòâåííèêè 19 âåêà îòìå÷àëè îáèëèå â ãîðîäå íåïðèñòóïíûõ äîìîâ-êðåïîñòåé, ÷òî îáúÿñíÿëîñü äîâîëüíî ïðîñòî: ñèëüíàÿ ñòàðîîáðÿä÷åñêàÿ îáùèíà, òàêèì îáðàçîì, ñîõðàíÿëà ïàòðèàðõàëüíûé, "äåäîâñêèé", áûò è âåðó îòöîâ, ñòðîÿ ñâîåîáðàçíûå îãðàæäåíèÿ îò ìèðà ïðàâîñëàâíûõ õðèñòèàí è èíîâåðöåâ."
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Íà ñàéòå ñ 2014 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 757
Ê ñîæàëåíèþ, íè÷åãî íå îòêðûâàåòñÿ...Ïðè÷åì ïðîáîâàëà ñ 3õ áðàóçåðîâ..Äà , ýòî Ôîíä 127, îï.1, òîì 1
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Ñîîáùåíèé: 2085
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2014 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 757

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