Êèòàéñêàÿ Ðåñïóáëèêà (1912-1949)--ÊÍÐ. Ïîèñê
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ß èùó èíôîðìàöèþ î ìîåé ñåìüå, ðîäèâøåéñÿ â Õàðáèíå, Êèòàé, è èõ ðîäèòåëÿõ.
Äåòè, ðîæäåííûå â Êèòàå
Åëåíà Ñòàðêîâà 1908
Âàëåíòèí Ñòàðêîâ 1 ìàÿ 1909 ã.
Àíàòîëü Ñòàðêîâ 19 ñåíòÿáðÿ 1910 ã.
Îëüãà Ñòàðêîâà 1912 ã.
Èõ ðîäèòåëåé çâàëè Äèìèòðèé Âàñèëüåâè÷ Ñòàðêîâ è Åâãåíèÿ Äþðãåðîâà (åå ôàìèëèþ íå çíàþ, îíà ïåðåâåäåíà íà àíãëèéñêèé êàê Jugerov).
Ïîçæå îíè èçìåíèëè ñâîè ôàìèëèè íà Áîðêîâñêèé (Borcovsky), êîãäà óåçæàëè â Àâñòðàëèþ â 1913 ãîäó.[/q]
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Íàøåë èíôîðìàöèþ îá óåõàâøåì èç Õàáàðîâñêà êàäåòå Õàáàðîâñêîãî êàäåòñêîãî êîðïóñà, çàêîí÷èâøåì åãî â 1924 ãîäó â Øàíõàå, Åâãåíèè Ñåìåíîâè÷å Çîçóëåâè÷å. Êàê ÿ ïîíÿë èç ãàçåòíûõ îáúÿâëåíèé (ïðèëàãàþ), îí òàì è îñòàëñÿ, õîòÿ âðîäå áû êàäåòû äîëæíû áûëè óåõàòü â Ñåðáèþ (ÊÑÕÑ).
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23 ÿíâàðÿ 20:06 23 ÿíâàðÿ 20:09 pcharnyÃàçåòû øàíõàéñêèå? Ãîä ñìåðòè Å.Ñ.? Ãîä ðîæäåíèÿ 1904 Î. Çîçóëåâè÷ -- âåðîÿòíî, åãî ñåñòðà Îëüãà Ñåìåíîâíà Ê. Çîçóëåâè÷ ? Áûë åùå áðàò Ãåîðãèé 1909 ã.ð. Ïîñìîòðèòå Ó÷åòíûå êàðòî÷êè ðîññèéñêèõ ýìèãðàíòîâ Øàíõàéñêîé ìóíèöèïàëüíîé ïîëèöèè. Àðõèâ ÑØÀ https://catalog.archives.gov/id/7419885 | | Ëàéê (1) |
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Ãàçåòû øàíõàéñêèå?
Ãîä ñìåðòè Å.Ñ.?
Ãîä ðîæäåíèÿ 1904
Î. Çîçóëåâè÷ -- âåðîÿòíî, åãî ñåñòðà Îëüãà Ñåìåíîâíà
Ê. Çîçóëåâè÷ ?
Áûë åùå áðàò Ãåîðãèé 1909 ã.ð.
Ïîñìîòðèòå
Ó÷åòíûå êàðòî÷êè ðîññèéñêèõ ýìèãðàíòîâ Øàíõàéñêîé ìóíèöèïàëüíîé ïîëèöèè. Àðõèâ ÑØÀ
https://catalog.archives.gov/id/7419885[/q]
Ñïàñèáî. Òàì íàïèñàíî äî÷ü è æåíà. Ïðî Îëüãó äóìàë. Ãåîðãèé è åùå Âåðà 1898 ãð, çíàþ. Ãîä ñìåðòè 1947. Ãàçåòû øàíõàéñêèå. Ñïàñèáî çà èäåþ ïðî êàðòî÷êè! Upd: íàøåë, ïðàâäà ïîêà áåç ñåìüè https://catalog.archives.gov/id/290743212?objectPage=368 ---
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Ãàçåòû øàíõàéñêèå?
Ãîä ñìåðòè Å.Ñ.?
Ãîä ðîæäåíèÿ 1904
Î. Çîçóëåâè÷ -- âåðîÿòíî, åãî ñåñòðà Îëüãà Ñåìåíîâíà
Ê. Çîçóëåâè÷ ?
Áûë åùå áðàò Ãåîðãèé 1909 ã.ð.
Ïîñìîòðèòå
Ó÷åòíûå êàðòî÷êè ðîññèéñêèõ ýìèãðàíòîâ Øàíõàéñêîé ìóíèöèïàëüíîé ïîëèöèè. Àðõèâ ÑØÀ
https://catalog.archives.gov/id/7419885[/q]
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå! Ìîè òîæå æèëè â Êðûê-Îøàê, îòåö ñ áðàòüÿìè è ñåñòðàìè ó÷èëèñü â ïîñîëüñêîé øêîëå â ×óãó÷àêå. Ôàìèëèÿ - Ñèëèíû. Íàñåëåííûå ïóíêòû íå ìîãó òîæå íàéòè, îðèåíòèðîâî÷íî ìåæäó ×óãó÷àê è Äóðáóëüäæèí (Åìèí). Ðàññêàæèòå î ñâîèõ, ïîæàëóéñòà. íàâåðíÿêà ñåìüè áûëè î÷åíü-î÷åíü ñâÿçàíû. Áëàãîäàðþ
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Ãàçåòû øàíõàéñêèå?
Ãîä ñìåðòè Å.Ñ.?
Ãîä ðîæäåíèÿ 1904
Î. Çîçóëåâè÷ -- âåðîÿòíî, åãî ñåñòðà Îëüãà Ñåìåíîâíà
Ê. Çîçóëåâè÷ ?
Áûë åùå áðàò Ãåîðãèé 1909 ã.ð.
Ïîñìîòðèòå
Ó÷åòíûå êàðòî÷êè ðîññèéñêèõ ýìèãðàíòîâ Øàíõàéñêîé ìóíèöèïàëüíîé ïîëèöèè. Àðõèâ ÑØÀ
https://catalog.archives.gov/id/7419885
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https://robertbickers.net/2023...-shanghai/ âîò òàêàÿ èíòåðåñíàÿ áàçà îêàçûâàåòñÿ
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íàâåðíÿêà îíè óåõàëè ïîçæå, à íåâîçìîæíî îáùåíèå ïî÷åìó? èç-çà ÿçûêà èëè çàêðûòî âñå äëÿ âíåøíèõ?
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