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Andrey Maslennikov íàïèñàë:
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P.P.S.: Maybe you noticed that in St. Petersburg address book of 1909 and 1910 has a record of Arkadiy Ivanovich Krestovozdvizhenskiy, Podpolkovnik (military rank lower than Colonel), dies in 1909/1910. His wife Anna Timofeevna.
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Andrey! Many thanks for your answers.

This entry I know and in 1910 I found Dmitrij Krestovozdwizhenski (1910 Krestowozdwiżenskij Dmitrij: podpolkovnik, Zagorodnyj 43, St. Peterburg). Where do you know about Arkadiy's death? Because it could be the reason, why Dmitrij was in St. Petersburg in 1910?
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Andrey Maslennikov

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Kelli_D íàïèñàë:
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Where do you know about Arkadiy's death?
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This is my assumption. Look at the left part of the attached image from 1910 calendar. In the record of "ÊÐÅÑÒÎÂÎÇÄÂÈÆÅÍÑÊÀß ÀÍ. ÒÈÌ. âä. ïäïëê. Çíàìåíñêàÿ 16", "âä. ïäïëê." means widow of a Podpolkovnik. On the right side (1909), there is the same record for "Anna Timofeevna", but, it is "æ. ïäïëê" means WIFE of Podpolkovnik and slightly below a record for Arcady who lived at the same address.


Kelli_D íàïèñàë:
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Because it could be the reason, why Dmitrij was in St. Petersburg in 1910?
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Possibly. However, Anna lived in St. Petersburg in 1916. In 1924 there are no record for her and I do not have anything in period of 1917-1923.

P.S. Is it ok that I made a small russian text citation above?

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Okay, it is very interesting. I saw the entries, but I don't read, that Anna was his wife.

Arkadij was a Russian border officer. It seems, I need his personnel file, too.

Why the personnel files, which I have, all end in the year 1908/09?
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Kelli_D íàïèñàë:
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Why the personnel files, which I have, all end in the year 1908/09?
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Dmitriy's? Personal files are not updated after a person retired, for whatever reason.
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No, I have a personnel file of Dmitriy's brother-in-laws, too. This file ends in 1908 and it seems, that this file was not closed.
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Kelli_D íàïèñàë:
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No, I have a personnel file of Dmitriy's brother-in-laws, too. This file ends in 1908 and it seems, that this file was not closed.
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I have the same situation with my great grandfather. The possible reason is that he was working in Siberia at the Department of Railroads and his personal file was stored in St. Petersburg, so docs starting from 1915 were not sent from Siberia to St. Petersburg and later in 1919 they were gone due to Civil war.

Maybe you can send it (a personnel file of Dmitriy's brother-in-laws) to me and will take a look?
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I will send the file via mail!
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Kelli_D íàïèñàë:
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I will send the file via mail!
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got it.

About Nikolay Evald (Ivan) von Hunnius. (link: http://regiment.ru/bio/G/80.htm). See here: rosgenea.ru/?alf=4&serchcatal=%C3%F3%ED%ED%E8%F3%F1&r=4.
He dies in 1957 in Germany, he was serving in White army during Russian Civil war. Source is the Volkov's book Officers of Army Cavalry. It also states that Nikolay serves in Zaamurskiy kray (Siberia). So that could be the reason why his personal file is ended by 1908. He might be send at that time to a new place in Siberia. I am not able to recognize the lastly mentioned name of troops where he was a commander in his personal file.

He is in the Calendar of Kovenskaya gubernia for 1908 and 1909 but not for 1910.

btw.

link - personal file of von Hunnius Karl Robert Emmanuil Fedor. Fedor is the middle name, dated 1900.

http://opisi.garf.su/default.a...elo=253921 - Is also his personal file as policeman dated 1905
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About Nikolay Evald (Ivan) von Hunnius. (link: http://regiment.ru/bio/G/80.htm). See here: rosgenea.ru/?alf=4&...1&r=4.
He dies in 1957 in Germany, he was serving in White army during Russian Civil war. Source is the Volkov's book Officers of Army Cavalry. It also states that Nikolay serves in Zaamurskiy kray (Siberia). So that could be the reason why his personal file is ended by 1908. He might be send at that time to a new place in Siberia. I am not able to recognize the lastly mentioned name of troops where he was a commander in his personal file.

He is in the Calendar of Kovenskaya gubernia for 1908 and 1909 but not for 1910.

btw.

link - personal file of von Hunnius Karl Robert Emmanuil Fedor. Fedor is the middle name, dated 1900.

http://opisi.garf.su/default.a...elo=253921 - Is also his personal file as policeman dated 1905
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Many thanks!

I don't open the first link.

But now I have to look for further information in Germany. Well it should be easier to find more information.

At the moment I don't know, how Karl Robert Emmanuil Fedor is related to Nikolaj. But in Germany there are "Deutsches Geschlechterbücher", where the history of the Hunnius familiy is described.
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Many thanks!
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You are welcome


Kelli_D íàïèñàë:
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But now I have to look for further information in Germany. Well it should be easier to find more information.
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About Nikolay it should be a record at White Army Catalog at Russian State Archive.
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