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Looking For A Marriage Record

Looking for a marriage record in Russian Empire

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I tried to find a Daniel Tolstoy via Yandex archives service in the metrics of Moscow city archive, but failed.
You can try it yourself: https://yandex.ru/archive
The search in based on AI, meaning it doesn't always scan the old handwritten text correctly. It's not an easy search at all.

But there's the service by Moscow city administration allowing access to scanned Moscow metrical books

https://cgamos.ru/metric-books/

So you can find those of 1826 and go through yourself.
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OlgaKob написал:
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I tried to find a Daniel Tolstoy via Yandex archives service in the metrics of Moscow city archive, but failed.
You can try it yourself: https://yandex.ru/archive
The search in based on AI, meaning it doesn't always scan the old handwritten text correctly. It's not an easy search at all.

But there's the service by Moscow city administration allowing access to scanned Moscow metrical books

https://cgamos.ru/metric-books/

So you can find those of 1826 and go through yourself.
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Thank you. I will try as soon as I get home
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Hello!
I found another document where retired captain Grigory Nechaev is mentioned.
Grigory Mikhailovich had a brother, a Moscow bourgeois Konstantin Mikhailovich Nechaev. Alexander Konstantinovich, a teacher from Kolomna, is Grigory Mikhailovich's nephew.

Moscow Church of Our Lady of Kazan in Sushchev
1890 February 2, The groom is a teacher of the 1st parish school in Kolomna, Alexander Konstantinovich Nechaev, Orthodox confession, 27 years. by his first marriage
The bride of the Moscow province of the city of Zvenigorod is a petty bourgeois girl Anna Egorovna, of Orthodox confession, 19 years old
The guarantors for the groom: retired captain Grigory Mikhailovich Nechaev and the Moscowbourgeois of the Sadovaya Sloboda Bolshoy Konstantin Mikhailovich Nechaev.
According to the bride: nobleman Alexander Alexandrovich Tarasevich and a real student Sergey Nikolaevich Petrovsky.

https://yandex.ru/archive/cata...%8F%2C+27.
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death of Konstantin Nechaev
Moscow Church of the Healer of the Ailing Mother of God in the hospital named after Emperor Alexander III
1898 May 1, Konstantin Mikhailov Nechaev, a tradesman of the Moscow Bolshaya Sloboda, 70 years olddied of heart obesity.
https://yandex.ru/archive/cata...%80%D0%B0.

marriage of his daughter Elizabeth
Moscow Church of the Transfiguration in Spasskaya
1881 February 2 The groom of the Nobility, the son of the Titular Councilor, the rural parish teacher Pavel Pavlov Domogatsky. Orthodox confession, first marriage; lives in the parish of this Church, in the house of Yurkevich.
The bride is a Moscow philistine of the Sadovaya Sloboda, a big girl, Elisaveta Konstantinova Nechaeva. of Orthodox confession, lived for 24.5 years in the parish of the same Church; in Firsanov's house.
Guarantors for the groom. Moscow philistine Ivan Mikhailovich Panov and collegiate secretary Grigory Petrov Solovyov.
According to the bride, collegiate adviser Nikolai Sergeyev Saltanov and retired captain Pyotr Matveev Sukhotin.
https://yandex.ru/archive/cata...0%B0-.+22.

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А это, вероятно, брат Марии Даниловны.
And this is probably Maria Danilovna's brother.

Сhurch of the Moscow district of the village of Vsekhsvyatsky
1884 June 7 5th year student of the Moscow University Faculty of Medicine Mikhail Daniilov Sinyavsky 23 years old from consumption

https://yandex.ru/archive/cata...%BE%D0%B2.

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>> Ответ на сообщение пользователя Atkara-EV от 27 августа 2023 18:32

Thanks a lot for your help ! It allowed me to rebuild part of my family.
I have a question regarding the age of Konstantin Netchaiev. When he died in 1898, you indicate that he was 70 years old, which gives a birth in 1828. According to the ages of the children at their marriage, Elisaveta was born in 1856 and Aleksandr in 1863, Konstantin was therefore 28 and 35 years old respectively. when her children were born. Does this all seem consistent to you? He seems quite old when compared to his brother Grigoriy. I mean it looks like Grigoriy was born around 1850
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I found this document which, I believe, speaks of a certain Maria daughter of Pavel Pavlovich Domogatsky and Elisaveta Konstantinovna Netchaeva. Could you confirm that this is what I read and tell me when she was born exactly? Is it July 21, 1884?

birth certificate
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Could you confirm that this is what I read and tell me when she was born exactly? Is it July 21, 1884?
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Yes, you read everything correctly
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Does this all seem consistent to you? He seems quite old when compared to his brother Grigoriy. I mean it looks like Grigoriy was born around 1850
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I found Biography of Grigory Nechaev from the Memorial Book of the Vilna province 1877

Acting battalion quartermaster Staff Captain Grigory Mikhailovich Nechaev has a cross for service in the Caucasus and a silver medal for the conquest of Chechnya and Dagestan and a bronze medal in memory of the war of 1853-56 and the pacification of the Polish rebellion of 1863-64. Orthodox confession, in office since January 17, 1877

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Исполняющий должность батальонного квартирмейстера штабс-капитан Григорий Михайлович Нечаев, имеет крест за службу на Кавказе и медаль серебряную за покорение Чечни и Дагестана и бронзовую в память войны 1853-56 года и усмирение польского мятежа 1863-64. Православного исповедания, в должности с 17 января 1877 года https://viewer.rusneb.ru/ru/00...heme=white

The dates perfectly coincides with the dates of Konstantin Nechaev 's life, but do not coincide with the biography of Maria Tolstoy....


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>> Ответ на сообщение пользователя Atkara-EV от 27 августа 2023 18:32

I have a question regarding the age of Konstantin Netchaiev. When he died in 1898, you indicate that he was 70 years old, which gives a birth in 1828. According to the ages of the children at their marriage, Elisaveta was born in 1856 and Aleksandr in 1863, Konstantin was therefore 28 and 35 years old respectively. when her children were born. Does this all seem consistent to you? He seems quite old when compared to his brother Grigoriy. I mean it looks like Grigoriy was born around 1850
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The age in the Russian metrical books is rarely acurate, meaning it was never based on documents but on words. In case of the deсeased, sometimes, it could be even based on the evaluation of their age by theшк looks (young, old, very old) by the priest himself. Thus, some metrical books give the unrealistic age of over 100 years.
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