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Finding a lost relative, army officer from Nikolai II army


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Íàâåðõ   ## 7 ÿíâàðÿ 2022 19:50 7 ÿíâàðÿ 2022 19:51

jrw íàïèñàë:
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Êèðååâ Àíäðåé Ãðèãîðüåâè÷
ïîäïîðó÷èê
281-é ïåõîòíûé Íîâîìîñêîâñêèé ïîëê
ðàíåí â ëåâîå áåäðî 23.06.1916
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Âèäèìî, íå îí. Ýòîò Àíäðåé ðîäîì èç Êàëóæñêîé ãóáåðíèè. È ïîëê åãî â Ôèíëÿíäèè íå áûë.
Îáñóæäåíèå âñåõ èçâåñòíûõ ìëàäøèõ îôèöåðîâ ïî èìåíè Àíäðåé Êèðååâ èäåò â âåòêå "Ðîññèéñêàÿ èìïåðàòîðñêàÿ àðìèÿ è ôëîò", è òàì óæå îïðåäåëèëè ñàìîãî âåðîÿòíîãî êàíäèäàòà, ïîëê êîòîðîãî ñòîÿë â Ôèíëÿíäèè â 1917-18.
https://forum.vgd.ru/post/148/104756/p4041728.htm#pp4041728
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jrw

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Íàâåðõ   ## 7 ÿíâàðÿ 2022 19:55 7 ÿíâàðÿ 2022 19:57
NiinaR íàøëà îò÷åñòâî - Ãðèãîðüåâè÷.


NiinaR íàïèñàë:
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Hi!
I found out his fathers name! It was Grigor Ãðèãîð
My mother in laws sister once was travelling in Jalta and found it out by asking the local red cross.
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Íàâåðõ   ## 7 ÿíâàðÿ 2022 20:04

NiinaR íàïèñàë:
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Seems that he was that he was prisoned or travelling with the "red".
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Do you know about the events in Vyborg and Terioka in April-June 1918?
Whites were in power In Vyborg and Terioka. White terror in Vyborg against Russians, hundreds people were shot, including Russians officers. Àfter 20 000 Russians forced to leave Finland. Àíäðåé Êèðååâ was probably among them.
Question: Did he leave Finland or was he sent to a camp for Russians?
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Íàâåðõ   ## 7 ÿíâàðÿ 2022 20:09

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jrw kirjoitti:
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Kireev Andrei Grigorjevitš 281. Jalkaväen Novomoskovskin rykmentin
2. luutnantti haavoittui vasempaan reiteen 23.6.1916



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Ilmeisesti ei hän. Tämä Andrey on kotoisin Kalugan maakunnasta. Ja hänen rykmenttinsä ei ollut Suomessa.
"Venäjän keisarillinen armeija ja laivasto" -ketjussa käsitellään kaikkia kuuluisia nuorempia upseereja nimeltä Andrei Kireev, ja siellä on jo tunnistettu todennäköisin ehdokas, jonka rykmentti sijaitsi Suomessa vuosina 1917-18.
https://forum.vgd.ru/post/148/104756/p4041728.htm#pp4041728
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Seems good! But how to ever find out what happened to him...
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Íàâåðõ   ## 7 ÿíâàðÿ 2022 21:23

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NiinaR kirjoitti:
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Näyttää siltä, ​​​​että hän oli vankilassa tai matkusti "punaisen" kanssa.
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Tiedätkö Viipurin ja Teriokan huhti-kesäkuun 1918 tapahtumista?
Valkoiset olivat vallassa Viipurissa ja Teriokalla. Valkoinen terrori Viipurissa venäläisiä vastaan, satoja ihmisiä ammuttiin, mukaan lukien venäläisiä upseereita. Sen jälkeen kun 20 000 venäläistä pakotettiin lähtemään Suomesta. Andrei Kireev oli luultavasti heidän joukossaan.
Kysymys: Lähtikö hän Suomesta vai lähetettiinkö venäläisten leirille?
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Yes I do know about the events at that time. I have been trying to find his name in finnish war prisoner sites but didn't find him. At least for now. Have to try again. And try to connect some finnish history reachers that could point me to the right place or site. I'm such a novice in this all that can't seem to find anything. And possibleis that he was just shot and his name wount be anywhere.
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Íàâåðõ   ## 8 ÿíâàðÿ 2022 9:23
NiinaR
Hi, Nina !
Do you know where Lyyli Anni Talvitie lived in 1917?
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Íàâåðõ   ## 8 ÿíâàðÿ 2022 11:41

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NiinaR
Hei, Nina!
Tiedätkö missä Lyyli Anni Talvitie asui vuonna 1917?
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Yes, I believe that She lived in Ulvila Finland.
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Íàâåðõ   ## 8 ÿíâàðÿ 2022 12:08 8 ÿíâàðÿ 2022 13:21
NiinaR
Is it near Pori (Björneborg) ?

Ïðèêðåïëåííûé ôàéë: Ïîðè-Áüîðíåáîðã.jpg
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Íàâåðõ   ## 8 ÿíâàðÿ 2022 14:30

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NiinaR
Onko se lähellä Poria (Björneborg)?
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Yes, it is. =)
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Íàâåðõ   ## 8 ÿíâàðÿ 2022 19:53

NiinaR íàïèñàë:
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NiinaR
Onko se lähellä Poriaa (Björneborg)?
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Kyllä se on. =)
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His son Reijo Olavi Talvitie was fighting in the war between Russia and Finland. He intentionally wanted to captured by the Russian to find out what happened to his dad alltough he never saw him. He tould afterwards that he found out that Andrei was a navy amiral. But we think that that was not true. He was not all well balanced and had quite good imagination.
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