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Koenigsberg Êàëèíèíãðàä Ñîîáùåíèé: 3418 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2012 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1984 | Íàâåðõ ##
2 îêòÿáðÿ 2012 22:52Àäàìñû Óâàæàåìûå ãîñïîäà!
Ïðîøó âàøåé êâàëèôèöèðîâàííîé ïîìîùè ïî íåìåöêîé òåìå.
Èçó÷àÿ ãåíåàëîãèþ îäíîãî èç äâîðÿíñêèõ ðîäîâ ÀÄÀÌÑÎÂ, âûÿñíèë, ÷òî ýòîò ðîä íå øîòëàíäñêîãî (êàê ðàíåå ñ÷èòàëîñü ïî ñåìåéíûì ïðåäàíèÿì), à íåìåöêîãî ïðîèñõîæäåíèÿ.
Èâàí Àäàìñ, øòàá-ëåêàðü, ïðîæèâàë â Ìîñêâå âî âòîðîé ïîëîâèíå 18-ãî âåêà, ñàì äâîðÿíñêîãî çâàíèÿ íå èìåë, íî òðè åãî ñûíà îñíîâàëè ñîáñòâåííûå äâîðÿíñêèå ðîäû.
Íàèáîëåå èçâåñòåí åãî ñûí - çîîëîã è âðà÷ Ìèõàèë Èâàíîâè÷ Àäàìñ (Johannes Michael Friedrich Adams), 1780 ã.ð., ñïåöèàëèñò ïî ìàìîíòàì.
Äîñòàòî÷íî èíôîðìàöèè òàêæå î äâóõ äðóãèõ åãî ñûíîâüÿõ:
Ëþáèì (Ãîòëèá) Èâàíîâè÷ Àäàìñ (1780 ã.ð.?)
Äàíèëà (Äàíèýëü?) Èâàíîâè÷ Àäàìñ (îðèåíò. 1790 ã.ð.)
Íî î ñàìîì æå "Èâàíå Àäàìñå" íåèçâåñòíî ïî÷òè íè÷åãî.
Íå âñòðå÷àëîñü ëè âàì ñëó÷àéíî â "íåìåöêèõ çåìëÿõ" ... ãäå â Ãåðìàíèè â 18-ì âåêå áûëà íàèáîëåå ðàñïðîñòðàíåíà ôàìèëèÿ Adams, è îòêóäà ìîã ïðèáûòü â Ðîññèþ òîò ñàìûé "øòàá-ëåêàðü" Èâàí (Johannes?) Àäàìñ?
Çàðàíåå áëàãîäàðåí.
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Geo Z LT Ñîîáùåíèé: 19768 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 13337 | Íàâåðõ ##
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Âîò èìåííî, â XVIII âåêå áûë íàáîð ðàçíîêàëèáåðíûõ íåìåöêèõ çåìåëü. Êòî æ òîãäà ìîã çà ðàñïðîñòðàíåíèåì ôàìèëèé ñëåäèòü. À êàê îíà ðàñïðîñòðàíåíà íûí÷å, ìîæåòå çàãëÿíóòü ñþäà. http://www.verwandt.de/karten/absolut/adams.html | | |
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Âîò èìåííî, â XVIII âåêå áûë íàáîð ðàçíîêàëèáåðíûõ íåìåöêèõ çåìåëü. Êòî æ òîãäà ìîã çà ðàñïðîñòðàíåíèåì ôàìèëèé ñëåäèòü.À êàê îíà ðàñïðîñòðàíåíà íûí÷å, ìîæåòå çàãëÿíóòü ñþäà. document.write('<a href="http://www.verwandt.de/karten/absolut/adams.html" rel="nofollow" target=_blank>http://www.verwandt.de/karten/absolut/adams.html</a>' ;http://www.verwandt.de/karten/absolut/adams.html [/q]
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Àôàíàñüåâû, Ïøåíè÷íûå (ñò. Òåìèðãîåâñêàÿ); Äóáèíèíû, Ïðîêîïîâû (ñò. Åññåíòóêñêàÿ); Âåðæáèöêèå, Áåçïîÿñíûå, Êîðçóí, Íàãîí, Êóäåðñêèå (Õåðñîíñêàÿ ãóá., Àíàíüåâñêèé ó.); Äðóæèíèíû, Ñîçîíîâû (ã. Ñîëüöû); Èâàíîâû (ÑÏá, ä. Øàõíèöû) | | |
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Ñïàñèáî Âàì, igolka97, íî, ê ñîæàëåíèþ, íåìåöêèé ÿçûê ó ìåíÿ îòñóòñòâóåò êàê êëàññ  Áëàãî, çíàêîì íåìíîãî ñ åãî áèîãðàôèåé íà ðóññêîì. ×òî êàñàåòñÿ ôîðìû ôàìèëèè "ÀÄÀÌ", îíà òîæå èíîãäà âñòðå÷àåòñÿ, íî ÿ íå óâåðåí, ÷òî ýòî íå îïèñêè äåëîïðîèçâîäèòåëåé 18-ãî âåêà. Òàì òàêèå ÷óäåñà ñ ÔÈÎ òâîðèëè ... îñîáåííî ñ èìïîðòíûìè. Íåêîòîðûå Àäàìñû (êîòîðûå øîòëàíäñêèå), òàê âîîáùå óñòàëè áîðîòüñÿ è òèõî-ìèðíî "ïåðåèìåíîâàëèñü" â Àäàìîâûõ ... | | |
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Koenigsberg íàïèñàë:[q] ×òî êàñàåòñÿ ôîðìû ôàìèëèè "ÀÄÀÌ"[/q]
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2 îêòÿáðÿ 2012 23:57 3 îêòÿáðÿ 2012 0:32 igolka97 íàïèñàë: [q]
KoenigsbergÏîñìîòðèòå, Ìèõàèë Èâàíîâè÷ åñòü ó Àìáóðãåðà. document.write('<a href="http://88.217.241.77/amburger/index.php?id=4896" rel="nofollow" target=_blank>http://88.217.241.77/amburger/index.php?id=4896</a>';http://88.217.241.77/amburger/index.php?id=4896 è â êàðòî÷êå èìååòñÿ èíòåðåñíûé êîììåíòàðèé: ðàíåå Àäàì Èîãàíí Ôðèäðèõ [/q]
Èçâèíèòå, óâàæàåìûå ãîñïîäà, Âû íå ïîìîæåòå ìíå ïåðåâåñòè îäíó ñòðî÷êó? Berufsklasse: fürstlicher "Grenadier" - im Original: läßt tau fen 1. Peter Paul 1.7.1781, 2. Kind 1783Ïî èäåå, ýòî íàïèñàíî ïðî îòöà Ìèõàèëà Èâàíîâè÷à Àäàìñà, åñëè ïåðåéòè ïî ñõåìå http://88.217.241.77/amburger/index.php?id=1002409 | | |
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3 îêòÿáðÿ 2012 0:26 Koenigsberg
öàðñêèé ãðåíàäåð, â îðèãèíàëå: êðåñòèò 1. Ïåòåð Ïàóëü è äàòà, 2 ðåáåíîê 1783 ---
Àôàíàñüåâû, Ïøåíè÷íûå (ñò. Òåìèðãîåâñêàÿ); Äóáèíèíû, Ïðîêîïîâû (ñò. Åññåíòóêñêàÿ); Âåðæáèöêèå, Áåçïîÿñíûå, Êîðçóí, Íàãîí, Êóäåðñêèå (Õåðñîíñêàÿ ãóá., Àíàíüåâñêèé ó.); Äðóæèíèíû, Ñîçîíîâû (ã. Ñîëüöû); Èâàíîâû (ÑÏá, ä. Øàõíèöû) | | |
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Koenigsberg öàðñêèé ãðåíàäåð, â îðèãèíàëå: êðåñòèò 1. Ïåòåð Ïàóëü è äàòà, 2 ðåáåíîê 1783 [/q]
Áëàãîäàðþ Âàñ, óâàæàåìàÿ igolka97. Âîîáùå-òî, íåìíîãî ñòðàííî. Ïî âñåì èçâåñòíûì ìíå èñòî÷íèêàì (íà ðóññêîì), îòåö Ì.È. Àäàìñà - ìåäèê. È òðè åãî ñûíà, î êîòîðûõ ÿ ïèñàë âûøå, ïîøëè èìåííî ïî ìåäèöèíñêîé ÷àñòè. Çà èñêëþ÷åíèåì Äàíèëû Àäàìñà, êîòîðûé ñ äîëæíîñòè áèáëèîòåêàðÿ Ìåäèêî-Õèðóðãè÷åñêîé àêàäåìèè âñêîðå óø¸ë â Ìîñêîâñêóþ êàç¸ííóþ ïàëàòó, ãäå è ñëóæèë äî ïåíñèè â îòäåëå ïèòåéíûõ ñáîðîâ. Ïîäêèíóëè Âû ìíå çàäà÷êó  Íî âñ¸ ðàâíî Ñïàñèáî. Õîòÿ ... âîçìîæíî ... â ïîëêó äâîðöîâûõ ãðåíàä¸ðîâ òîæå áûë ñâîé øòàá-ëåêàðü. | | |
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