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Âû äóìàëè âû â ïàïó? Îøèáàåòåñü! Íåìíîãî ôàêòîâ èç ìèðà ãåíåòèêè

ÃÅÍÅÒÈÊÀ (îò ãðå÷. genesis — ïðîèñõîæäåíèå), íàóêà, èçó÷àþùàÿ çàêîíîìåðíîñòè íàñëåäñòâåííîñòè è èçìåí÷èâîñòè îðãàíèçìîâ.
Òàê âîò:

1. Èíòåëëåêò íå ïåðåäàåòñÿ îò îòöà ê ñûíó. Òî åñòü, åñëè âû ãåíèé, òî âàø ñûí 100% íå óíàñëåäóåò âàøèõ ãåíîâ.
2. Èäèîòèçì íå ïåðåäàåòñÿ îò îòöà ê ñûíó. Åñëè âû çàêîí÷åííûé êðåòèí, òî âàø ñûí íå áóäåò òàêèì æå èäèîòîì êàê âû (ñ ÷åì âàñ è ïîçäðàâëÿåì).
3. Èíòåëëåêò îò îòöà ìîæåò ïåðåäàâàòüñÿ òîëüêî äî÷åðè. È òîëüêî íàïîëîâèíó.
4. Óíàñëåäîâàòü èíòåëëåêò ìóæ÷èíà ìîæåò òîëüêî îò ñâîåé ìàòåðè, êîòîðûé îíà, â ñâîþ î÷åðåäü, óíàñëåäîâàëà îò ñâîåãî îòöà.
5. Äî÷åðè ãåíèåâ áóäóò ðîâíî íàïîëîâèíó óìíû, êàê èõ îòöû, íî èõ ñûíîâüÿ áóäóò ãåíèÿìè. Åñëè èõ îòåö òóïèöà, òî äî÷åðè áóäóò ðîâíî íàïîëîâèíó òóïèöàìè, ÷åì èõ îòöû.
6. Ïîýòîìó ãåíèàëüíûõ æåíùèí ïî÷òè íå ñóùåñòâóåò, êàê è íå ñóùåñòâóåò ñòîïðîöåíòíûõ èäèîòîê-æåíùèí. Çàòî ìóæ÷èí-ãåíèåâ è ìóæ÷èí-òóïèö î÷åíü ìíîãî. Îòñþäà è ïîêîëåíèå íåóäà÷íèêîâ-àëêàøåé, ìàòåðåé-îäèíî÷åê, à òàêæå íîáåëåâñêèå ëàóðåàòû (ïî÷òè âñå ìóæ÷èíû).
Âûâîäû äëÿ ìóæ÷èí:

1. ×òîáû ñïðîãíîçèðîâàòü óìñòâåííûå ñïîñîáíîñòè ñâîåãî ñûíà, ãëÿäè íà îòöà ñâîåé æåíû (åñëè îí àêàäåìèê, òî òâîé ñûí òîæå áóäåò óìíûì).
2. Òâîÿ äî÷ü ïîëó÷èò ïîëîâèíó òâîåãî óìà. Íî è ïîëîâèíó òâîåé äåáèëüíîñòè. Ïî èíòåëëåêòó îíà áóäåò áëèæå ê òåáå. Åå ñûí ïîëó÷èò âñå òâîè óìñòâåííûå ñïîñîáíîñòè. Õî÷åøü óìíîå ïîêîëåíèå — ìå÷òàé î äî÷åðè.
3. Òâîè óìñòâåííûå ñïîñîáíîñòè îò ìàìû, à âåðíåå îò äåäóøêè.
Âûâîäû äëÿ æåíùèí:

1. Òâîé ñûí ïî óìó — êîïèÿ òâîåãî îòöà, è ðóãàòü åãî “òû òàêîé æå òóïîé, êàê òâîé îòåö” — íå ñîâñåì âåðíî.
2. Òâîÿ äî÷ü ïî âîñïèòàíèþ áóäåò êàê òû, íî ïî óìó êàê åå îòåö. Ÿ æå ñûíîâüÿ áóäóò óìñòâåííûìè êîïèÿìè âàøèõ ìóæåé.

«Ñ÷èòàåòñÿ, ÷òî ãëàâíûé ðåçóëüòàò ðîñòà ïðîäîëæèòåëüíîñòè æèçíè — òî, ÷òî ïîæèëûå ëþäè òåïåðü äîëüøå æèâóò. Íî ýòî íå òàê.
Ãëàâíûì, îãðîìíûì, ñòðàòåãè÷åñêèì, ìåíÿþùèì íà íàøèõ ãëàçàõ âñå ÷åëîâå÷åñòâî ñëåäñòâèåì ñêà÷êà ïðîäîëæèòåëüíîñòè æèçíè ÿâëÿåòñÿ âîâñå íå òî, ÷òî ñòàðîñòü òåïåðü äîëüøå ïðîäîëæàåòñÿ, à òî, ÷òî îíà íàìíîãî ïîçæå íà÷èíàåòñÿ.

Äëÿ òåõ, êîìó ñåãîäíÿ 40, 50, 55 ëåò, ñòàðîñòü íà÷íåòñÿ òîëüêî ëåò â 75-80. Òî åñòü íà äîáðûõ 25 ëåò — ÷åòâåðòü âåêà! — ïîçæå, ÷åì äëÿ ïîêîëåíèÿ íàøèõ ðîäèòåëåé.

Åùå ñîâñåì íåäàâíî â ÷åëîâå÷åñêîé æèçíè áûëî ëèøü 3 îñíîâíûõ ïåðèîäà: ìîëîäîñòü, çðåëîñòü, ñòàðîñòü. Òåïåðü «çðåëîñòü» ñëó÷àåòñÿ â 50 è îòìå÷àåò ñîáîé íà÷àëî àáñîëþòíî íîâîãî, ïîïðîñòó íå ñóùåñòâîâàâøåãî ðàíüøå ýòàïà â ÷åëîâå÷åñêîé æèçíè.
×òî ìû çíàåì î íåì?

1. Îí ïðîäîëæàåòñÿ ïî÷òè 30 ëåò — ñ 50 äî ïðèìåðíî 75.

2.  îòëè÷èå îò ïðåæíèõ ïðåäñòàâëåíèé, ôèçè÷åñêèå è èíòåëëåêòóàëüíûå âîçìîæíîñòè ÷åëîâåêà â ýòîò ïåðèîä ïðè ïðàâèëüíîì ïîäõîäå íå ñíèæàþòñÿ è îñòàþòñÿ, ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå, íå õóæå, à â íåêîòîðûõ ñëó÷àÿõ è ëó÷øå, ÷åì â ìîëîäîñòè.

3. Ïîòåíöèàëüíî ýòî ëó÷øèé, ñàìûé êà÷åñòâåííûé ïåðèîä â ÷åëîâå÷åñêîé æèçíè, ïîñêîëüêó ñîâìåùàåò â ñåáå çäîðîâüå, ñèëû è æèçíåííûé îïûò. «Åñëè áû ìîëîäîñòü çíàëà, åñëè áû ñòàðîñòü ìîãëà» — ýòî áîëüøå íå ïðî íàñ. Ïî âñåì ñòàòèñòè÷åñêèì äàííûì ïîñëåäíèõ ëåò, ñàìîå ñ÷àñòëèâîå âðåìÿ â æèçíè, åå ïèê íàñòóïàåò òåïåðü ïðèìåðíî â 65 ëåò.

4. Òå, êîìó ñåãîäíÿ 55-65 ëåò, ïðîæèâàþò ýòîò ïåðèîä ïåðâûìè â èñòîðèè ÷åëîâå÷åñòâà. Ðàíüøå åãî ïðîñòî íå áûëî, ïîñêîëüêó ëþäè íàìíîãî ðàíüøå ñòàðåëè.

5. Â áëèæàéøèå íåñêîëüêî äåñÿòèëåòèé ëþäè âîçðàñòà 50-75 ñòàíóò ñàìîé ìàññîâîé âîçðàñòíîé ãðóïïîé íà ïëàíåòå.

×åì îòëè÷àåòñÿ æèçíü ïîñëå 50 îò âñåé ïðåäûäóùåé æèçíè? Äà òåì, ÷òî òîìó, êàê æèòü ïîñëå 50, íàñ íèêòî íèêîãäà íå ó÷èë!

 ìëàäåí÷åñòâå íàñ ãîòîâÿò ê äåòñòâó, â äåòñòâå — ê þíîñòè, â þíîñòè — ê ìîëîäîñòè, à â ìîëîäîñòè ìû ïðîâîäèì äåñÿòêè ÷àñîâ, ãîòîâÿ ñåáÿ ê ïðåäñòîÿùèì èñïûòàíèÿì çðåëîñòè. È òîëüêî ãðàíèöó â 50 ëåò ìû ïåðåñåêàåì, íå èìåÿ íè ìàëåéøåãî ïðåäñòàâëåíèÿ î òîì, êàê, ÷åì è ðàäè ÷åãî æèòü äàëüøå.

Çäåñü íåò íè÷åãî óäèâèòåëüíîãî. Îòêóäà òàêèì çíàíèÿì âçÿòüñÿ, åñëè åùå äëÿ ïîêîëåíèÿ íàøèõ ðîäèòåëåé â 50 ëåò îôèöèàëüíî íà÷èíàëàñü ñòàðîñòü, è æèòü äàëüøå âîîáùå íå ïîëàãàëîñü, à ïîëàãàëîñü íà÷èíàòü ïîíåìíîãó óìèðàòü.

Ìû ðåäêî îñîçíàåì, ÷òî òà æèçíåííàÿ ïðîãðàììà, êîòîðîé ìû íåóêîñíèòåëüíî ñëåäóåì, ïóòåøåñòâóÿ ïî æèçíè, íà ñàìîì äåëå çàëîæåíà â íàñ ïðåäûäóùèìè ïîêîëåíèÿìè. Èìåííî ïðåäûäóùèìè ïîêîëåíèÿìè ñîçäàíû òå êíèãè, ôèëüìû, ñèñòåìà îáðàçîâàíèÿ, êîòîðûå â äåòñòâå è â ìîëîäîñòè ôîðìèðóþò íàøå ñîçíàíèå.

Íî ó ïðåäûäóùèõ ïîêîëåíèé íå áûëî íèêàêèõ ïðåäñòàâëåíèé î æèçíè ïîñëå 50 ïî òîé ïðîñòîé ïðè÷èíå, ÷òî ïîñëå 50 ëåò æèçíè íå áûëî â ïðèíöèïå. Ïîòîìó íåò èõ è â ïðîãðàììå æèçíè, êîòîðàÿ äîñòàëàñü íàì îò íèõ â íàñëåäñòâî.

Ïî âñåé è âñÿ÷åñêîé ñòàòèñòèêå äëÿ òåõ, êîìó ñåãîäíÿ 50-55 èëè îêîëî òîãî, ñòàðîñòü íà÷íåòñÿ íå ðàíüøå 80 ëåò. Ýòî î÷åíü, î÷åíü ïðèÿòíî, êîíå÷íî. Íàì ïðîñòî âçÿëè è ïîäàðèëè àæ 25 ëåò (!) äîïîëíèòåëüíîé àêòèâíîé è íàñûùåííîé æèçíè. Ïðîáëåìà â òîì, ÷òî êàê ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ ýòèì ïîäàðêîì, íå íàó÷èëè. È â ðåçóëüòàòå, ïåðåõîäÿ ãðàíèöó â 50 è ñîãëàøàÿñü ïî íåçíàíèþ íà ïðåæäåâðåìåííóþ ñòàðîñòü, ìû ðèñêóåì ïîòåðÿòü äîáðûõ 25-30 ëåò, êîòîðûå — áåç ïðåóâåëè÷åíèÿ — ìîãëè áû áûòü ëó÷øèìè â íàøåé æèçíè.

Ïîñëå 50 ëåò â æèçíè íàñòóïàåò çàìå÷àòåëüíûé ìîìåíò, êîãäà åñòü âðåìÿ, çäîðîâüå, ñèëû, ñâîáîäà îò ñîöèàëüíûõ îáÿçàòåëüñòâ, îïûò, è äî íà÷àëà ñòàðîñòè, ïî ñîâðåìåííûì ìåðêàì, åùå ÷åòâåðòü âåêà!

Íå òåðÿéòå ýòîãî âðåìåíè çðÿ. Ïîòîì áóäåòå î÷åíü æàëåòü!

Åñëè âàì çà 50, òî äëÿ âàñ ñåãîäíÿ âîçìîæíî àáñîëþòíî âñå: íîâûå óâëå÷åíèÿ, íîâûå ðàäîñòè è âïå÷àòëåíèÿ, íîâàÿ êàðüåðà, íîâàÿ ëþáîâü, íîâûå ïóòåøåñòâèÿ. Ïðè÷åì êà÷åñòâî ýòèõ æèçíåííûõ âïå÷àòëåíèé íàìíîãî ïðåâûøàåò âñå, ÷òî áûëî äîñòóïíî â çåëåíîé, íåóìåëîé þíîñòè èëè îáðåìåíåííîé îáÿçàòåëüñòâàìè çðåëîñòè.
Óðàààà!!! Æèòü äà æèòü!»

àâòîð Yevgeny Levitov
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Þðâåí
Ìîäåðàòîð ðàçäåëà

Þðâåí

ã. Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ñîîáùåíèé: 12737
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 18685
http://gentis.ru/info/ydna-tutorial/hg-i/p37.2

Îïèñàíèå ãàïëîãðóïïû I2a-P37.2

Ñîâðåìåííûå åâðîïåéñêèå ÷àñòîòû ãàïëîãðóïïû I2a ïîêàçûâàþò äîñòàòî÷íî ïëàâíûé ãðàäèåíò èìåþùèé öåíòð ïèêà ÷àñòîò íà Áàëêàíàõ è â ðàéîíå Êàðïàò ñ íàïðàâëåíèåì óìåíüøåíèÿ â ñòîðîíó ñåâåðî-âîñòîêà.

Íàèáîëüøèå ÷àñòîòû ðàñïðîñòðàíåíèÿ I2a âñòðå÷àþòñÿ ó áîñíèéöåâ è õàðâàòîâ îò 40 äî 60%, ó ñåðáîâ è ìàêåäîíöåâ 20-30%, ïðèìåðíî ñòîëüêî æå â Ìîëäàâèè ó ãàãàóçîâ.  Óêðàèíå ÷àñòîòà ðàñïðîñòðàíåíèÿ ãàïëîãðóïïû I2a äîñòèãàåò 15-16%.  Áåëàðóññèè ðåãèîíû ñ íàèáîëüøåé ÷àñòîòîé — ýòî çàïàäíàÿ åå ÷àñòü (22%) è âîñòî÷íîå Ïîëåñüå (27%), â öåíòðàëüíîé ÷àñòè îêîëî 14-16%, è ðåçêîå ñíèæåíèå ê ñåâåðó ñòðàíû, ãäå ÷àñòîòà ïàäàåò äî 7%.  Ðîññèè ÷àñòîòíûé ãðàäèåíò òàêæå íàïðàâëåí ñ þãî-çàïàäà (Áåëãîðîäñêàÿ, Êóðñêàÿ îáëàñòè 18-20%) íà ñåâåð ñ ïîíèæåíèåì ïî÷òè äî íóëÿ.  öåíòðàëüíûõ îáëàñòÿõ Ðîññèè I2a íå èìååò ðåçêèõ âñïëåñêîâ ÷àñòîò è äåðæèòñÿ íà óðîâíå â ñðåäíåì 5-10%).  îñòàëüíûõ åâðîïåéñêèõ ñòðàíàõ ðàñïðîñòðàíåííîñòü ãàïëîãðóïïû I2a êðàéíå íèçêàÿ.

 Ñêàíäèíàâèè îò 0 äî 1%, â ×åõèè 5-8%, â Òóðöèè â ñðåäíåì 1-2%.  Åâðàçèè è íà Áëèæíåì Âîñòîêå, à òàêæå â Àôðèêå ãàïëîãðóïïà I2a èìååò íóëåâûå ÷àñòîòû.
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Þðâåí
Ìîäåðàòîð ðàçäåëà

Þðâåí

ã. Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ñîîáùåíèé: 12737
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 18685
https://www.geni.com/projects/I-P37-2-Y-DNA/10754

This project is for people who have tested and been assigned the paternal haplogroup I2a1 (P37.2) and also for people who are believed to have belonged to this paternal haplogroup based on tests done on descendants.

Formerly: I2a
Defining Mutations

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Origin

Haplogroup I2 might have originated in southeastern Europe about 15,000 to 17,000 years ago. The P37.2 subgroup seems to have originated about 10,700 years ago (plus or minus 4,800 years). However, the known members of this group seem to share an ancestor who lived more recently, only about 8,000 years ago (plus or minus 4,000 years).

Source: Wikipedia, Haplogroup I2

I2a1-P37.2 - Two examples of I2a1 have been found in the DNA of Neolithic farmers. They were among the burials in the Cave of Treilles in Aveyron, in the South of France. The Treilles culture of c. 3000 BC is the very last phase of the Neolithic in the region before the arrival of copper-workers and the Bell Beaker culture. 4 Ken Nordtvedt considers their haplotypes consistent with I2a1a -M26.

Source: BuildingHistory.org, Haplogroup I

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_I2_Y-DNA.shtml
Distribution

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Subclades of I

I - I-M170
I1 - I-M253
I1a3a1d - I-L803
I2 - I-M438
I2a1 - I-P37.2 (ISOGG: I2a1. formerly I2a)
I2a1b - I-M423 (formerly I2a2)
I2a2a - I-M223 (formerly I2b1)
I2a2a (L69.2) - I-L69.2
I2a2a1 - I-M284 (ISOGG: I2a2a, formerly I2b1a)

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To participate in this project, join or follow the project, then add your oldest known ancestor who belonged to this haplogroup. The profile must be set to public in order to add it.

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Ïåðåâîä íà ðóññêèé ÿçûê:

Ýòîò ïðîåêò ïðåäíàçíà÷åí äëÿ ëþäåé, êîòîðûå áûëè ïðîòåñòèðîâàíû è îòíåñåíû ê îòöîâñêîé ãàïëîãðóïïå I2a1 (P37.2), à òàêæå äëÿ ëþäåé, êîòîðûå, êàê îæèäàåòñÿ, ïðèíàäëåæàëè ê ýòîé îòöîâñêîé ãàïëîãðóïïå íà îñíîâå òåñòîâ, ïðîâåäåííûõ íà ïîòîìêàõ.
Ðàíåå: I2a
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ïðîèñõîæäåíèÿ

Ãàïëîãðóïïà I2 ìîãëà ïîÿâèòüñÿ â þãî-âîñòî÷íîé Åâðîïå îêîëî 15 000 - 17 000 ëåò íàçàä. Ïîäãðóïïà P37.2, êàæåòñÿ, âîçíèêëà îêîëî 10 700 ëåò íàçàä (ïëþñ èëè ìèíóñ 4800 ëåò). Îäíàêî èçâåñòíûå ÷ëåíû ýòîé ãðóïïû, ïîõîæå, èìåþò îáùåãî ñ ïðåäêîì, êîòîðûé æèë ñîâñåì íåäàâíî, âñåãî îêîëî 8000 ëåò íàçàä (ïëþñ èëè ìèíóñ 4000 ëåò).

Èñòî÷íèê: Âèêèïåäèÿ, Ãàïëîãðóïïà I2s.
I2a1-P37.2 - Äâà ïðèìåðà I2a1 áûëè îáíàðóæåíû â ÄÍÊ íåîëèòè÷åñêèõ ôåðìåðîâ. Îíè áûëè ñðåäè çàõîðîíåíèé â ïåùåðå Òðåéëü â Àâåðîíå, íà þãå Ôðàíöèè. Òðåéëüñêàÿ êóëüòóðà c. 3000 äî í.ý. - ñàìàÿ ïîñëåäíÿÿ ôàçà íåîëèòà â ðåãèîíå ïåðåä ïðèáûòèåì ìåäíèêîâ è êóëüòóðû êîëîêîëüíîãî ñòàêàíà. 4 Êåí Íîðäòâåäò ñ÷èòàåò, ÷òî èõ ãàïëîòèïû ñîîòâåòñòâóþò I2a1a -M26.

Èñòî÷íèê: BuildingHistory.org, Ãàïëîãðóïïà I

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_I2_Y-DNA.shtml.
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Ïîäêëàäû I

ß - ß-Ì170
Îò I1 äî I-M253
I1a3a1d - I-L803
I2 - I-M438
I2a1 - I-P37.2 (ISOGG: I2a1. Ðàíåå I2a)
I2a1b - I-M423 (ðàíåå I2a2)
I2a2a - I-M223 (ðàíåå I2b1)
I2a2a (L69.2) - I-L69.2
I2a2a1 - I-M284 (ISOGG: I2a2a, ðàíåå I2b1a)

Ñì. Äåðåâî äëÿ I1 â Ïðîåêòíûõ äîêóìåíòàõ äëÿ Êåíà Íîðäòâåäòà (ìàé 2012)

Äåðåâî äëÿ I1
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Äåðåâî ISOGG I http://www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpI.html

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Ñâûøå 20,000 ëåò èñòîðèè ãàïëîãðóïïû I1b1 (P37.2+)

Ïðèìå÷àíèå ïåðåâîä÷èêà.

Êîðîòêîå ýññå Êåíà Íîðäâåäòà íàïèñàíî â ìàå 2008 ãîäà, ïîýòîìó âìåñòî I1b1 (íàçâàíèÿ ãàïëîãðóïïû ïî ñòàðîé íîìåíêëàòóðå) íóæíî ÷èòàòü I2à.  ñâîåì ýññå Êåí Íîðäâåäò äàåò êðàòêóþ õàðàêòåðèñòèêó ñëåäóþùèì cóáêëàäàì:

• • I2a P37.2
• • • I2a*
• • • I2a1 M26
• • • • I2a1*
• • • • I2a1a M161
• • • I2a2 M423
• • • • I2a2*
• • • • I2a2a P41.2/M359.2
• • • • I2a2b L69 (=T)

Ïî ñîñòîÿíèþ íà íà÷àëî 2009 ãîäà ñòðóêòóðà äðåâà I2a îïðåäåëÿåòñÿ äâóìÿ ñíèïàìè:


áàçîâûé âõîäÿùèé ñíèï — ýòî îáùèé ñíèï P37+, âñå I2a èìåþò ïîçèòèâíûé ðåçóëüòàò àíàëèçà íà P37.2 ìóòàöèþ;
ñíèï M423 — äðåâíÿÿ SNP ìóòàöèÿ, êîòîðàÿ ðàçäåëÿåò ñàðäèíñêóþ âåòâü I2a (ó êîòîðûõ îòñóòñòâóåò ýòà ìóòàöèÿ) îò äðóãèõ I2a.

 ñâÿçè ñ âûøåñêàçàííûì âñòàåò âîïðîñ êàê îïðåäåëÿòü ïðèíàäëåæíîñòü ê òîìó èëè èíîìó êëàäó ïî çíà÷åíèÿì STR-ìàðêåðîâ. Îñîáåííî àêòóàëåí ýòîò âîïðîñ äëÿ äèíàðñêîé âåòâè I2a, òàê êàê èç âñåõ âåòâåé ãåíåòè÷åñêîå ðàçíîîáðàçèå ãàïëîòèïîâ ýòîé ãðóïïû ìèíèìàëüíî. Êåí Íîðäòâåäò ïðåäëàãàåò îïðåäåëÿòü ïðèíàäëåæíîñòü ïî êîëè÷åñòâó ìóòàöèé â ìàðêåðàõ DYS388 è DYS385a ìîäàëüíûõ ãàïëîòèïîâ ñîîòâåòñòâóþùèõ âåòâåé:

Çàïàäíàÿ âåòâü I2a èìååò ñòàáèëüíîå çíà÷åíèå 15 â ìàðêåðå DYS388;
Îñòðîâíàÿ âåòâü I2a èìååò êëàññè÷åñêîå çíà÷åíèå 13 â ìàðêåðå DYS388 è 11-12 â ìàðêåðå DYS385a;
Äèíàðñêàÿ âåòâü, êàê ïðàâèëî, èìååò â ìàðêåðå DYS385a çíà÷åíèÿ 14 è 15, à òàêæå çíà÷åíèÿ âûøå, ÷åì 12 â ìàðêåðå DYS 461. Âíóòðè äèíàðñêîé âåòâè ìîëîäàÿ þæíàÿ (þãîñëàâñêàÿ) âåòâü äèíàðèêîâ I2a õàðàêòåðèçóåòñÿ çíà÷åíèåì ìàðêåðà DYS448 ðàâíûì 19, è íèçêèì çíà÷åíèåì ìàðêåðà DYS449. Ñåâåðíàÿ (ñòàðàÿ) âåòâü ñî çíà÷åíèåì ìàðêåðà DYS448 ðàâíûì 21 è âûñîêèì çíà÷åíèåì ìàðêåðà DYS449.

Êåí Íîðäâåäò. Ñâûøå 20,000 ëåò èñòîðèè ãàïëîãðóïïû I1b1 (P37.2+) (ñêà÷àòü â ôîðìàòå pdf, 910êá)

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https://zen.yandex.ru/media/bo...3c2a197bc2

Îáèòàåìûé 10 òûñÿ÷åëåòèé íàçàä íîñèòåëÿìè R1a Ðóññêèé Ñåâåð, ÷üÿ ïðàðîäèíà?
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Äåðåâî ãàïëîãðóïïû Ð37

https://forum.molgen.org/index.php?topic=410.1590

... Ñåâåðíûé Äèíàðñêèé êëàñòåð ýòî óñëîâíîå äåëåíèå ïî ðåçóëüòàòàì ìàðêåðîâ DYS448 è DYS449 ïðèìåíÿþùèåñÿ äëÿ ïðîãíîçà ãðóïï âåòâåé ïî ìàðêåðàì; Ñåâåðíûé Äèíàðñêèé êëàñòåð âêëþ÷àåò âñå âåòâè îò l2a-Y3120, êðîìå êðóïíåéøåé ïî ÷èñëåííîñòè I-PH908 (îêîëî 40% ïîïóëÿöèè îò âñåõ l2a-Y3120). Òåððèòîðèÿ ðàññåëåíèÿ ïîìèìî óêàçàííûõ Âàìè ñòðàí âêëþ÷àåò è Ðîññèþ.

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https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_I2_Y-DNA.shtml

Haplogroup I2 (Y-DNA)
Version française

Author: Maciamo Hay.
Last update June 2020 (famous people)

Geographic distribution

Haplogroup I2 is the most common paternal lineage in former Yugoslavia, Romania, Bulgaria and Sardinia, and a major lineage in most Slavic countries. Its maximum frequencies are observed in Bosnia (55%, including 71% in Bosnian Croats), Sardinia (39.5%), Croatia (38%), Serbia (33%), Montenegro (31%), Romania (28%), Moldova (24%), Macedonia (24%), Slovenia (22%), Bulgaria (22%), Belarus (18.5%), Hungary (18%), Slovakia (17.5%), Ukraine (13.5%), and Albania (13.5%). It is found at a frequency of 5 to 10% in Germanic countries.

Phylogeny of I2

If you are new to genetic genealogy, please check our Introduction to phylogenetics to understand how to read a phylogenetic tree.

The phylogenetic tree of I2 evolved a lot over the last 10 years and top-level subclades were renamed more often than for any other haplogroup except R1b. To avoid all confusion it is recommended to double-check the defining mutations (SNP's) when reading older studies or making references to a particular subclade. Several minor subclades were not included due to lack of space.

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Àâòîð: Ìàñèàìî Õýé.
Ïîñëåäíåå îáíîâëåíèå èþíü 2020 ã. (èçâåñòíûå ëþäè)

Ãåîãðàôè÷åñêîå ðàñïðîñòðàíåíèå

Ãàïëîãðóïïà I2 ÿâëÿåòñÿ íàèáîëåå ðàñïðîñòðàíåííîé îòöîâñêîé ëèíèåé â áûâøåé Þãîñëàâèè, Ðóìûíèè, Áîëãàðèè è Ñàðäèíèè, à òàêæå îñíîâíîé ëèíèåé â áîëüøèíñòâå ñëàâÿíñêèõ ñòðàí. Ìàêñèìàëüíûå åãî ÷àñòîòû íàáëþäàþòñÿ â Áîñíèè (55 %, â òîì ÷èñëå 71 % ó áîñíèéñêèõ õîðâàòîâ), Ñàðäèíèè (39,5 %), Õîðâàòèè (38 %), Ñåðáèè (33 %), ×åðíîãîðèè (31 %), Ðóìûíèè (28 %), Ìîëäîâå. (24%), Ìàêåäîíèÿ (24%), Ñëîâåíèÿ (22%), Áîëãàðèÿ (22%), Áåëàðóñü (18,5%), Âåíãðèÿ (18%), Ñëîâàêèÿ (17,5%), Óêðàèíà (13,5%) è Àëáàíèÿ ( 13,5%). Âñòðå÷àåòñÿ ñ ÷àñòîòîé îò 5 äî 10% â ãåðìàíñêèõ ñòðàíàõ.

Ôèëîãåíèÿ I2

Åñëè âû íîâè÷îê â ãåíåòè÷åñêîé ãåíåàëîãèè, îçíàêîìüòåñü ñ íàøèì Ââåäåíèåì â ôèëîãåíåòèêó, ÷òîáû ïîíÿòü, êàê ÷èòàòü ôèëîãåíåòè÷åñêîå äåðåâî.

Ôèëîãåíåòè÷åñêîå äðåâî I2 ñèëüíî èçìåíèëîñü çà ïîñëåäíèå 10 ëåò, è ñóáêëàäû âåðõíåãî óðîâíÿ ïåðåèìåíîâûâàëèñü ÷àùå, ÷åì äëÿ ëþáîé äðóãîé ãàïëîãðóïïû, êðîìå R1b. Âî èçáåæàíèå ïóòàíèöû ðåêîìåíäóåòñÿ ïåðåïðîâåðÿòü îïðåäåëÿþùèå ìóòàöèè (SNP) ïðè ÷òåíèè áîëåå ñòàðûõ èññëåäîâàíèé èëè ïðè ññûëêàõ íà êîíêðåòíûé ñóáêëàä. Íåñêîëüêî âòîðîñòåïåííûõ ñóáêëàäîâ íå áûëè âêëþ÷åíû èç-çà íåõâàòêè ìåñòà.

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Origins & History

Haplogroup I is the oldest major haplogroup in Europe and in all probability the only one that originated there (apart from very minor haplogroups like C1a2 and deep subclades of other haplogroups). Haplogroup IJ would have arrived from the Middle East to Europe some 35,000 years ago, then developed into haplogroup I soon afterwards. It has now been confirmed by ancient DNA test that the first Homo sapiens to colonize Europe during the Aurignacian period (45,000 to 28,000 years ago), belonged to haplogroups CT, C1a, C1b, F and I.

2 (M438/P215/S31) is thought to have originated during the Late Paleolithic, around the time of the Last Glacial Maximum (LGM), which lasted approximately from 26,500 to 19,000 years ago. I2 probably appeared in western Europe, although its exact region of origin cannot be determined since Paleolithic Europeans were nomadic hunter-gatherers. The oldest I2 sample recovered from archeological skeletons is a 13,500 year-old man from the Grotte du Bichon in Switzerland associated with the Azilian culture (see Jones et al. (2015)). His maternal lineage was U5b1h. As of October 2016, 15 Mesolithic European Y-DNA samples have been tested. Among them one belonged to haplogroup C1a2 (in Spain), one to F (in Germany), two to I* (in France), and six to I2 (Luxembourg and Sweden), including to I2a1* (P37.2), I2a1a1a (L672), I2a1b (M423) and I2c2 (PF3827). The maternal (mtDNA) lineages that they carried were U2e, U4, U5a1, U5a2 and U5b. The four samples from Russia belonged to Y-haplogroup J*, R1a1 (2x) and R1b1a. This shows that there was already a certain amount of diversity among Mesolithic European lineages, although many of these lineages (C1a2, F, I*, J*) are now exceedingly rare. Haplogroup I2a1 seems to have come out of the Neolithic period as the big winner for reasons that are not yet clear.

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Ãàïëîãðóïïà I ÿâëÿåòñÿ ñòàðåéøåé êðóïíîé ãàïëîãðóïïîé â Åâðîïå è, ïî âñåé âåðîÿòíîñòè, åäèíñòâåííîé, âîçíèêøåé òàì (çà èñêëþ÷åíèåì î÷åíü âòîðîñòåïåííûõ ãàïëîãðóïï, òàêèõ êàê C1a2, è ãëóáîêèõ ñóáêëàäîâ äðóãèõ ãàïëîãðóïï). Ãàïëîãðóïïà IJ ïðèáûëà ñ Áëèæíåãî Âîñòîêà â Åâðîïó îêîëî 35 000 ëåò íàçàä, à çàòåì âñêîðå ïîñëå ýòîãî ïðåâðàòèëàñü â ãàïëîãðóïïó I.  íàñòîÿùåå âðåìÿ ñ ïîìîùüþ àíàëèçà äðåâíåé ÄÍÊ áûëî ïîäòâåðæäåíî, ÷òî ïåðâûå Homo sapiens, êîëîíèçèðîâàâøèå Åâðîïó â îðèíüÿêñêèé ïåðèîä (îò 45 000 äî 28 000 ëåò íàçàä), ïðèíàäëåæàëè ê ãàïëîãðóïïàì CT, C1a, C1b, F è I.

2 (M438/P215/S31), êàê ïîëàãàþò, âîçíèê âî âðåìÿ ïîçäíåãî ïàëåîëèòà, ïðèìåðíî âî âðåìÿ ïîñëåäíåãî ëåäíèêîâîãî ìàêñèìóìà (LGM), êîòîðûé äëèëñÿ ïðèìåðíî îò 26 500 äî 19 000 ëåò íàçàä. I2, âåðîÿòíî, ïîÿâèëñÿ â Çàïàäíîé Åâðîïå, õîòÿ åãî òî÷íûé ðåãèîí ïðîèñõîæäåíèÿ íå ìîæåò áûòü îïðåäåëåí, ïîñêîëüêó ïàëåîëèòè÷åñêèå åâðîïåéöû áûëè êî÷åâûìè îõîòíèêàìè-ñîáèðàòåëÿìè. Ñàìûì ñòàðûì îáðàçöîì I2, èçâëå÷åííûì èç àðõåîëîãè÷åñêèõ ñêåëåòîâ, ÿâëÿåòñÿ ìóæ÷èíà âîçðàñòîì 13 500 ëåò èç Ãðîòà äþ Áèøîí â Øâåéöàðèè, ñâÿçàííûé ñ àçèëèéñêîé êóëüòóðîé (ñì. Jones et al. (2015)). Åãî ìàòåðèíñêàÿ ëèíèÿ áûëà U5b1h. Ïî ñîñòîÿíèþ íà îêòÿáðü 2016 ã. áûëî ïðîòåñòèðîâàíî 15 îáðàçöîâ ìåçîëèòè÷åñêîé åâðîïåéñêîé Y-ÄÍÊ.
Ñðåäè íèõ îäèí ïðèíàäëåæàë ê ãàïëîãðóïïå C1a2 (â Èñïàíèè), îäèí ê F (â Ãåðìàíèè), äâà ê I* (âî Ôðàíöèè) è øåñòü ê I2 (Ëþêñåìáóðã è Øâåöèÿ), â òîì ÷èñëå ê I2a1* (P37.2), I2a1a1a (L672), I2a1b (M423) è I2c2 (PF3827). Ìàòåðèíñêèå ëèíèè (ìòÄÍÊ), êîòîðûå îíè íåñëè, áûëè U2e, U4, U5a1, U5a2 è U5b. ×åòûðå îáðàçöà èç Ðîññèè ïðèíàäëåæàëè ê Y-ãàïëîãðóïïå J*, R1a1 (2x) è R1b1a. Ýòî ïîêàçûâàåò, ÷òî ñðåäè ìåçîëèòè÷åñêèõ åâðîïåéñêèõ ëèíèé óæå ñóùåñòâîâàëî îïðåäåëåííîå ðàçíîîáðàçèå, õîòÿ ìíîãèå èç ýòèõ ëèíèé (C1a2, F, I*, J*) â íàñòîÿùåå âðåìÿ ÷ðåçâû÷àéíî ðåäêè. Ãàïëîãðóïïà I2a1, êàæåòñÿ, âûøëà èç ïåðèîäà íåîëèòà êàê áîëüøîé ïîáåäèòåëü ïî ïðè÷èíàì, êîòîðûå ïîêà íå ÿñíû.

The analysis of Early Neolithic genomes from Anatolia by Mathieson et al. (2015) shows that I2c (L596) was already present in north-western Turkey 8,500 years ago, and had been assimilated by the Neolithic farmers on their way from the Fertile Crescent to Europe. Various ancient DNA studies conducted between 2014 and 2016 revealed that all Mesolithic European lineages became absorbed by the wave of Neolithic farmers. Yet I2a stood out as the most common among them, amounting to 16% of the 69 Neolithic Y-DNA samples tested. That places it as the second most common paternal lineage after G2a, the original lineage lineage of Anatolian farmers. I2a1 seems to have particularly prospered in the Starčevo–Kőrös–Criş culture (6000-4500 BCE) in Southeast Europe, where it is still one of the main male lineages today. I2a1 also appeared in the Printed-Cardium Pottery culture (5000-1500 BCE) in the western Mediterranean. The modern Sardinians and Basques inherited the biggest share of their genome from those Neolithic farmers from the Printed-Cardium Pottery culture.

Although only one I2a2 has been found during the early or middle Neolithic samples so far (a I2a2a-M223 from Spain), many of them showed up during the Copper and Bronze Ages. Copper and Bronze Age samples consist of one I2a2, two I2a2a and one I2a2a1 (CTS616) in Spain, one I2a2a1b1b2 (S12195) in southern Russia (Yamna culture), one I2a2a1 (CTS9183) and one I2a2a1a2a (L229) in Hungary (Vatya culture), six I2a2b (L38) in Germany (Unetice and Urnfield cultures). I2a1 samples from the Copper Age include an I2a1a1 from northern Italy (Remedello culture), an I2a1 from Hungary (Vatya culture). I2c2 was also found in the Unetice culture in Germany.

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Àíàëèç ãåíîìîâ ðàííåãî íåîëèòà èç Àíàòîëèè, ïðîâåäåííûé Ìýòèñîíîì è äð. (2015) ïîêàçûâàåò, ÷òî I2c (L596) óæå ïðèñóòñòâîâàë íà ñåâåðî-çàïàäå Òóðöèè 8500 ëåò íàçàä è áûë àññèìèëèðîâàí íåîëèòè÷åñêèìè çåìëåäåëüöàìè íà ïóòè èç Ïëîäîðîäíîãî ïîëóìåñÿöà â Åâðîïó. Ðàçëè÷íûå èññëåäîâàíèÿ äðåâíåé ÄÍÊ, ïðîâåäåííûå â ïåðèîä ñ 2014 ïî 2016 ãîä, ïîêàçàëè, ÷òî âñå ìåçîëèòè÷åñêèå åâðîïåéñêèå ëèíèè áûëè ïîãëîùåíû âîëíîé íåîëèòè÷åñêèõ ôåðìåðîâ. Òåì íå ìåíåå, I2a âûäåëÿëñÿ êàê íàèáîëåå ðàñïðîñòðàíåííûé ñðåäè íèõ, ñîñòàâëÿÿ 16% èç 69 ïðîòåñòèðîâàííûõ îáðàçöîâ Y-ÄÍÊ ýïîõè íåîëèòà. Ýòî ñòàâèò åãî íà âòîðîå ìåñòî ïî ðàñïðîñòðàíåííîñòè ïî îòöîâñêîé ëèíèè ïîñëå G2a, ïåðâîíà÷àëüíîé ëèíèè àíàòîëèéñêèõ ôåðìåðîâ. I2a1, ïî-âèäèìîìó, îñîáåííî ïðîöâåòàë â êóëüòóðå Ñòàð÷åâî-ʸð¸ø-Êðèø (6000–4500 ãã. Äî í.ý.) â Þãî-Âîñòî÷íîé Åâðîïå, ãäå îí äî ñèõ ïîð îñòàåòñÿ îäíîé èç îñíîâíûõ ìóæñêèõ ëèíèé. I2a1 òàêæå ïîÿâèëñÿ â êóëüòóðå ïå÷àòíîé êåðàìèêè (5000-1500 äî í.ý.) â çàïàäíîì Ñðåäèçåìíîìîðüå. Ñîâðåìåííûå ñàðäèíöû è áàñêè óíàñëåäîâàëè áîëüøóþ ÷àñòü ñâîåãî ãåíîìà îò íåîëèòè÷åñêèõ ôåðìåðîâ èç êóëüòóðû ïå÷àòíîé êåðàìèêè.

Õîòÿ ïîêà òîëüêî îäèí I2a2 áûë îáíàðóæåí âî âðåìÿ ðàííåãî èëè ñðåäíåãî íåîëèòà (I2a2a-M223 èç Èñïàíèè), ìíîãèå èç íèõ ïîÿâèëèñü â ìåäíîì è áðîíçîâîì âåêàõ. Îáðàçöû ìåäíîãî è áðîíçîâîãî âåêîâ ñîñòîÿò èç îäíîãî I2a2, äâóõ I2a2a è îäíîãî I2a2a1 (CTS616) â Èñïàíèè, îäíîãî I2a2a1b1b2 (S12195) íà þãå Ðîññèè (ÿìíàÿ êóëüòóðà), îäíîãî I2a2a1 (CTS9183) è îäíîãî I2a2a1a2a (L229) â Âåíãðèè (êóëüòóðà Âàòüÿ). ), øåñòü I2a2b (L38) â Ãåðìàíèè (êóëüòóðû Unetice è Urnfield). Îáðàçöû I2a1 èç ìåäíîãî âåêà âêëþ÷àþò I2a1a1 èç ñåâåðíîé Èòàëèè (êóëüòóðà Ðåìåäåëëî), I2a1 èç Âåíãðèè (êóëüòóðà Âàòüÿ). I2c2 òàêæå áûë îáíàðóæåí â êóëüòóðå Unetice â Ãåðìàíèè.

Haplogroup I2a1 (P37.2)

Haplogroup I2a1 is by far the largest branch of I2 and the one most strongly linked to Neolithic cultures in south-east, south-west and north-west Europe.
Distribution of haplogroup I2a1 (formerly I2a) in Europe

Ãàïëîãðóïïà I2a1 (P37.2)

Ãàïëîãðóïïà I2a1 íà ñåãîäíÿøíèé äåíü ÿâëÿåòñÿ ñàìîé êðóïíîé âåòâüþ I2 è íàèáîëåå òåñíî ñâÿçàíà ñ íåîëèòè÷åñêèìè êóëüòóðàìè íà þãî-âîñòîêå, þãî-çàïàäå è ñåâåðî-çàïàäå Åâðîïû.

Ðàñïðîñòðàíåíèå ãàïëîãðóïïû I2a1 (ðàíåå I2a) â Åâðîïå

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Íà ó÷àñòêàõ Y-õðîìîñîìû ñ ðàçíîé ÷àñòîòîé (ðàç â íåñêîëüêî ñîòåí ëåò, â çàâèñèìîñòè îò ó÷àñòêà) âîçíèêàþò ìóòàöèè, êîòîðûå íàâñåãäà îñòàþòñÿ â ãåíîìå áóäóùèõ ïîêîëåíèé. Áëàãîäàðÿ ýòîìó ñâîéñòâó, ñðàâíèâ ÄÍÊ ðàçíûõ ýòíè÷åñêèõ ãðóïï ïëàíåòû, ó÷¸íûå ñìîãëè ñîçäàòü âñåîáùåå ãåíåòèêî-ãåíåàëîãè÷åñêîå äåðåâî. Âåòêè íà í¸ì – ãàïëîãðóïïû, òî åñòü áîëüøèå ñîîáùåñòâà ëþäåé ñ îäèíàêîâîé ìóòàöèåé è äàë¸êèì îáùèì ïðåäêîì, êîòîðûé êîãäà-òî å¸ ïåðåäàë. Èñõîäÿ èç âñåãî âûøåñêàçàííîãî, â õîäå ÄÍÊ-ýêñïåðòèçû Y-õðîìîñîìû ìîæíî îïðåäåëèòü ãàïëîãðóïïó, à òàêæå êîëè÷åñòâî ïîêîëåíèé, îòäåëÿþùåå èññëåäóåìûõ ëèö îò îáùåãî ïðåäêà ïî ïðÿìîé ìóæñêîé ëèíèè.
 ðåçóëüòàòå ïðîâåäåííîãî ëàáîðàòîðíîãî èññëåäîâàíèÿ ... îïðåäåëåíà ... ãàïëîãðóïïà – I2a-Y3120 òàêæå óñòàíîâëåíà ïðèíàäëåæíîñòü ê ñåâåðíîìó å¸ êëàñòåðó), â ñâîþ î÷åðåäü ÿâëÿþùàÿñÿ ÷àñòüþ ðÿäà áîëåå êðóïíûõ, â òîì ÷èñëå I è I2.
Ýòî ñâèäåòåëüñòâóåò î òîì, ÷òî ïî ïðÿìîé ìóæñêîé îòöîâñêîé ëèíèè ïîòîìêè ... – íàñëåäíèêè «ñòàðûõ åâðîïåéöåâ», òî åñòü äîèíäîåâðîïåéñêîãî íàñåëåíèÿ Åâðîïû; èíûìè ñëîâàìè, ïîòîìêè êðîìàíüîíöåâ – ïåðâûõ ëþäåé ñîâðåìåííîãî òèïà, ïðèøåäøèõ â çåìëè, ëåæàùèå ê ñåâåðó îò Ñðåäèçåìíîãî ìîðÿ îêîëî 30000 - 45000 ëåò íàçàä. Èìåííî â èõ ñðåäå, âñêîðå ïîñëå ïåðåñåëåíèÿ â Åâðîïó, è âîçíèêëà ãàïëîãðóïïà I.

Ãåíåàëîãè÷åñêîå äðåâî âûøåíàçâàííûõ ãàïëîãðóïï âûãëÿäèò ñëåäóþùèì îáðàçîì.

• Ãàïëîãðóïïà I (Ì170) – âîçíèêëà îêîëî 42 900 ëåò íàçàä è ÿâëÿåòñÿ ñàìîé ñòàðîé ãàïëîãðóïïîé â Åâðîïå è, ïî âñåé âåðîÿòíîñòè, åäèíñòâåííîé èç êðóïíûõ ãàïëîãðóïï, êîòîðàÿ âîçíèêëà íåïîñðåäñòâåííî òàì. Ÿ íîñèòåëè – ïðÿìûå ïîòîìêè êðîìàíüîíöåâ. Îðèåíòèðîâî÷íîå âðåìÿ æèçíè îáùåãî ïðåäêà äëÿ ïðåäñòàâèòåëåé ýòîé ãàïëîãðóïïû – 27500 ëåò íàçàä. Äî âòîðæåíèÿ èíäîåâðîïåéöåâ (5000-7000 ëåò íàçàä) îáëàäàòåëè I ñîñòàâëÿëè áîëüøèíñòâî íàñåëåíèÿ Åâðîïû. Ñåé÷àñ îíè ñîñòàâëÿþò îêîëî 20% íàñåëåíèÿ Åâðîïû: îò 10 äî 45% â áîëüøèíñòâå åâðîïåéñêèõ ñòðàí.

Ãàïëîãðóïïà I2 âûäåëèëàñü èç I (Ì170) îêîëî 27500 ëåò íàçàä, åù¸ äî îêîí÷àíèÿ ëåäíèêîâîãî ïåðèîäà. Îáùèé ïðåäîê å¸ ïðåäñòàâèòåëåé æèë îêîëî 21500 ëåò íàçàä. Âîçìîæíî, ýòà ãàïëîãðóïïà âîçíèêëà â îäíîì èç «ëåäíèêîâûõ óáåæèù», ïðèþòèâøèõ ïîòîìêîâ êðîìàíüîíöåâ: íà Áàëêàíàõ, â Öåíòðàëüíîé èëè Þãî-Âîñòî÷íîé Åâðîïå, èëè æå â Àíàòîëèè. Òî÷íî îïðåäåëèòü ìåñòî èëè ðåãèîí, ãäå ïðîèçîøëî çàðîæäåíèå ãàïëîãðóïïû I2 êðàéíå ïðîáëåìàòè÷íî, ïîñêîëüêó â òîò ïåðèîä âñå åâðîïåéöû áûëè îõîòíèêàìè-ñîáèðàòåëÿìè – êî÷åâíèêàìè, êîòîðûå ïîñòîÿííî ìåíÿëè ìåñòà ñâîèõ ñòîÿíîê. Ïîñëå ïîòåïëåíèÿ (14000 - 12000 ëåò íàçàä) ïðåäñòàâèòåëè ýòîé ãàïëîãðóïïû ðàñïðîñòðàíèëèñü ïî îñòàëüíîé Åâðîïå. Òàêèì îáðàçîì, ïðåäñòàâèòåëè ãàïëîãðóïïû I2 – ïðÿìûå ïîòîìêè ïàëåîëèòè÷åñêèõ íàðîäîâ Çàïàäíîé, Öåíòðàëüíîé è Þãî-Âîñòî÷íîé Åâðîïû: îò ñåâåðíîé Èñïàíèè äî Êàðïàò è îò Áðèòàíñêèõ îñòðîâîâ äî Áàëêàí.
Âïåðâûå êîíöåíòðàöèÿ ýòîé ãàïëîãðóïïû ñíèçèëàñü îêîëî 7000 - 8000 ëåò íàçàä, êîãäà â Åâðîïó èç Ìàëîé Àçèè è ñ Áëèæíåãî Âîñòîêà ïðèøëà âîëíà ïåðåñåëåíöåâ – íåîëèòè÷åñêèõ çåìëåäåëüöåâ.
Âåðîÿòíî, îíè – ïðåäñòàâèòåëè ãàïëîãðóïïû I2 ñîâìåñòíî ñî ñâîèìè íîâûìè ñîñåäÿìè, ñòîÿëè â ïðîöåññå ñîçäàíèÿ òàêèõ êóëüòóð, êàê Íåà-Íèêîìèäèÿ (VII òûñÿ÷åëåòèå äî í.ý., ãðå÷åñêàÿ Ìàêåäîíèÿ), Ñåñêëî (VII - VI òûñÿ÷åëåòèå äî í.ý., Ôåññàëèÿ, Ãðåöèÿ), Ñòàð÷åâî-êðèøñêàÿ êóëüòóðà (VII - V òûñÿ÷åëåòèå äî í.ý., Ïîäóíàâüå), êóëüòóðà Âèí÷à (êîíåö VI - íà÷àëî V òûñÿ÷åëåòèÿ äî í.ý., ñåâåð Áàëêàíñêîãî ïîëóîñòðîâà) è Òðèïîëüñêàÿ êóëüòóðà (VI – III òûñ. äî í.ý., ìåæäóðå÷üå Äóíàÿ è Äíåïðà). Îíè ñòðîèëè ãîðîäà, ðàçðàáîòàëè ïèêòîãðàôè÷åñêóþ ïðîòîïèñüìåííîñòü. Äðóãàÿ âåòâü íîñèòåëåé I2 â ýòî æå ñàìîå âðåìÿ (îêîëî 5000 - 1200 äî í.ý.) âîçâîäèëà ìåãàëèòû – «êàìåííûå îáñåðâàòîðèè» – â Èñïàíèè, Ôðàíöèè è äðóãèõ óãîëêàõ Åâðîïû, äåìîíñòðèðóÿ âûäàþùèåñÿ äëÿ ñâîåé ýïîõè ïîçíàíèÿ â àñòðîíîìèè. Ðàñöâåò ñîçäàííûõ èìè êóëüòóð çàêîí÷èëñÿ ñ ïðèõîäîì â Åâðîïó èíäîåâðîïåéöåâ îêîëî 5000 - 7000 ëåò íàçàä.

 íàñòîÿùåå âðåìÿ ãàïëîãðóïïà I2 îñòà¸òñÿ îäíîé èç íàèáîëåå ðàñïðîñòðàí¸ííûõ â Åâðîïå, óñòóïàÿ òîëüêî èíäîåâðîïåéñêèì ãàïïëîãðóïïàì R1a è R1b.  ñåãîäíÿøíåé Åâðîïå ãàïëîãðóïïà I2 âñòðå÷àåòñÿ ïðàêòè÷åñêè íà âñåé å¸ òåððèòîðèè, à ìàêñèìàëüíîé êîíöåíòðàöèè äîñòèãàåò ó æèòåëåé Áîñíèè-Ãåðöåãîâèíû, Ñåðáèè è Õîðâàòèè. Ñëåäóåò çàìåòèòü, ÷òî ìóæ÷èíû, íîñèòåëè ýòîé ãàïëîãðóïïû, èìåþò ðåêîðäíûé äëÿ ìèðîâîé ñòàòèñòèêè ñðåäíèé ðîñò – 185,6 ñì.

Ãàïëîãðóïïà I2à-P37 âûäåëèëàñü èç I2 îêîëî 21100 ëåò íàçàä. Îáùèé ïðåäîê å¸ ïðåäñòàâèòåëåé æèë îêîëî 18500 ëåò íàçàä. Îêîëî 8000 ëåò íàçàä å¸ íîñèòåëè ðàññåëèëèñü ïî âñåé Âîñòî÷íîé, Çàïàäíîé è Ñåâåðíîé Åâðîïå, âêëþ÷àÿ Áðèòàíñêèå îñòðîâà. Îíà îáíàðóæåíà ó ïàëåîëèòè÷åñêîãî îáèòàòåëÿ Áèøîíñêîãî ãðîòà â Øâåéöàðèè (13560 - 13770 ëåò íàçàä), ó ïðåäñòàâèòåëåé Ñòàð÷åâî-êðèøñêîé êóëüòóðû (VII - V òûñÿ÷åëåòèå äî í.ý., Ïîäóíàâüå), êóëüòóð Ðåìåäåëëî (IV - III òûñÿ÷åëåòèå äî í.ý., Ïàäàíñêàÿ äîëèíà, Èòàëèÿ) è Ëåíäüåëü (III òûñÿ÷åëåòèå äî í.ý., Öåíòðàëüíàÿ Åâðîïà).

Ïîñëå ïðèõîäà â Åâðîïó èíäîåâðîïåéöåâ, ñ òå÷åíèåì âðåìåíè I2à âëèëàñü â èõ ñðåäó, â òîì ÷èñëå ïðèíÿâ ó÷àñòèå ñîâìåñòíî ñ èíäîåâðîïåéöàìè ãàïëîãðóïïû R1a â ôîðìèðîâàíèè ñëàâÿíñêîé îáùíîñòè.
 íàøè äíè íàèâûñøàÿ êîíöåíòðàöèÿ ýòîé ãàïëîãðóïïû I2à íàáëþäàåòñÿ â Áîñíèè è Ãåðöåãîâèíå, Ñåðáèè è Õîðâàòèè. Ÿ íîñèòåëÿìè ÿâëÿþòñÿ: áîñíèéöû è õîðâàòû (40-60%), ñåðáû, ìàêåäîíöû, ìîëäàâàíå è ãàãàóçû (20-30%), áåëîðóñû (Âîñòî÷íîå Ïîëåñüå – 27%, Çàïàäíàÿ Áåëàðóñü – 22%, Öåíòðàëüíàÿ Áåëàðóñü – 14-16%, Ñåâåðíàÿ Áåëàðóñü – 7%), ðóññêèå (Áåëãîðîäñêàÿ, Êóðñêàÿ îáëàñòè – 18-20%, íà îñòàëüíîé ÷àñòè Ðîññèè ïðè äâèæåíèè ñ þãî-çàïàäà íà ñåâåð ïîíèæàåòñÿ ïî÷òè äî íóëÿ), óêðàèíöû (15-16%), ÷åõè (5-8%).

Ãàïëîãðóïïà I2a-M423 âûäåëèëàñü îêîëî 18500 ëåò íàçàä, âîçìîæíî, â ðàéîíå ôðàíöóçñêèõ èëè øâåéöàðñêèõ Àëüï. Îáùèé ïðåäîê å¸ ïðåäñòàâèòåëåé æèë îêîëî 14100 ëåò íàçàä. Íîñèòåëè ýòîé ãàïëîãðóïïû ìèãðèðîâàëè ê ñåâåðó è ñåâåðî-âîñòîêó îò ñâîåé ðîäèíû, âñëåä çà îòñòóïàþùèì ëåäíèêîì è òóíäðîâîé ôàóíîé. Èñêîïàåìûå îáðàçöû I2a-M423 íàéäåíû ó «×åëîâåêà èç Ëîøáóðà» – îõîòíèêà-ñîáèðàòåëÿ ñ ìåçîëèòè÷åñêîé ñòîÿíêè Õåôôèíãåí-Ëîøáóð (îêîëî 5998 ãîäà äî í.ý., Ëþêñåìáóðã) è ó íåêîòîðûõ åãî ñîâðåìåííèêîâ – ÷àñòè ìåçîëèòè÷åñêîé ïîïóëÿöèè Ìîòàëà (îêîëî 8000 ëåò íàçàä, Ýñòãåòåðëàíä, Øâåöèÿ).

Ãàïëîãðóïïà I2a-L621 – âûäåëèëàñü ïðèìåðíî 11400 ëåò íàçàä, íà òåððèòîðèè Ãåðìàíèè. Îáùèé ïðåäîê å¸ ïðåäñòàâèòåëåé æèë îêîëî 6500 ëåò íàçàä.  ìåçîëèòå è íåîëèòå íîñèòåëè I2a-L621 îáèòàëè ìåæäó Ïîëüøåé è Áðèòàíèåé, â òîì ÷èñëå íà òåððèòîðèè Äîããåðëåíäà – áîëüøîãî ó÷àñòêà ñóøè, ñîåäèíÿâøåãî Áðèòàíñêèå îñòðîâà ñ ìàòåðèêîì è óøåäøåãî ïîä âîäó îêîëî 8200 ëåò íàçàä. Ïðåäïîëîæèòåëüíî, ñâÿçàíû ñî Ñâèäåðñêîé êóëüòóðîé (ôèíàëüíûé ïàëåîëèò, 11000 - 7000 ëåò íàçàä, Öåíòðàëüíàÿ è Âîñòî÷íàÿ Åâðîïà), ïðåäñòàâèòåëè êîòîðîé áûëè êî÷åâûìè îõîòíèêàìè (ÿäðî êóëüòóðû: Ïîëüøà, Ëèòâà, Áåëàðóñü, íî îíà ïðîñëåæèâàåòñÿ òàêæå â Ïñêîâñêîé îáëàñòè Ðîññèè, Óêðàèíå, â Êðûìó).
Ãàïëîãðóïïà I2a-L621 âñòðå÷àåòñÿ â îñíîâíîì â ñëàâÿíñêèõ ñòðàíàõ è ÿâëÿåòñÿ îäíîé èç ñàìûõ ðàñïðîñòðàí¸ííûõ ó âîñòî÷íûõ è îñîáåííî þæíûõ ñëàâÿí. Ê íåé îòíîñèòñÿ äî 1/4 óðîæåíöåâ óêðàèíñêîãî è áåëîðóññêîãî Ïîëåñüÿ è íå ìåíåå 1/3 ñåðáîâ è õîðâàòîâ.  ñðåäíåì æå ó ðóññêèõ, óêðàèíöåâ è áåëîðóñîâ ýòà âåòâü ïðåäñòàâëåíà íà óðîâíå 4-7%, 12-17% è 10-15%, ñîîòâåòñòâåííî.

Âåòâü I-CTS-10228 ãàïëîãðóïïû I2a – âûäåëèëàñü îêîëî 5100 ëåò íàçàä. Îáùèé ïðåäîê å¸ ïðåäñòàâèòåëåé æèë îêîëî 3400 ëåò íàçàä.

Ïî îäíîé èç ãèïîòåç, îíà è âîçíèêëà : – â Àäðèàòè÷åñêîì ðåãèîíå ñîâðåìåííîé Õîðâàòèè,
êîòîðûé âî âðåìÿ ïîñëåäíåãî ëåäíèêîâîãî ìàêñèìóìà ìîã ñëóæèòü óáåæèùåì äëÿ äðåâíèõ åâðîïåéöåâ.

Ñîãëàñíî äðóãîé ãèïîòåçå, äàííàÿ âåòâü ïîÿâèëàñü ê ñåâåðî-âîñòîêó îò Êàðïàò, â Þãî-Âîñòî÷íîé Ïîëüøå – Çàïàäíîé Óêðàèíå, à íà Áàëêàíû áûëà ïðèíåñåíà â õîäå ìèãðàöèè ñëàâÿí ìåæäó II - VII âåêàìè í.ý. Ñ ïðèõîäîì â Åâðîïó èíäîåâðîïåéöåâ, ýòà âåòâü (êàê è ìíîãèå äðóãèå âåòâè I) âëèëàñü â èõ ãåíîôîíä, è äàëåå ðàñïðîñòðàíÿëàñü óæå, â îñíîâíîì, âìåñòå ñ ìèãðàöèåé ñëàâÿí.  íûíåøíåå âðåìÿ îñíîâíîé àðåàë å¸ ðàñïðîñòðàíåíèÿ – Þãî-Âîñòî÷íàÿ Åâðîïà: íàèáîëåå âûñîêàÿ ïëîòíîñòü – â Äàëìàöèè (Õîðâàòèÿ), Áîñíèè-Ãåðöåãîâèíå, à òàêæå â Ìîëäîâå. Ÿ íîñèòåëÿìè ÿâëÿþòñÿ þæíûå ñëàâÿíå, ðóìûíû, áåëîðóñû, óêðàèíöû, âåíãðû, þæíûå ëèòîâöû, àëáàíöû, ãðåêè, æèòåëè Ñåâåðî-Âîñòîêà Èòàëèè, Çàïàäíîé Àíàòîëèè è Ñåâåðíîãî Êàâêàçà.
Âåòâü I-Y3120 ãàïëîãðóïïû I2à âûäåëèëàñü èç ðîäèòåëüñêîé I-CTS-10228 îêîëî 3400 ëåò íàçàä. Îáùèé ïðåäîê å¸ ïðåäñòàâèòåëåé æèë îêîëî 2200 ëåò íàçàä. Âûäåëåíèå Ñåâåðíîãî êëàñòåðà ýòîé ãàïëîãðóïïû ïðîèçîøëî îêîëî 2200-2500 2200 ëåò íàçàä â áàññåéíå Ïðèïÿòè íà Ïîëåñüå – íà ãðàíèöå Áåëàðóñè è Óêðàèíû – òî åñòü â êîíòàêòíîé çîíå ìåæäó ïðîòîáàëòàìè è ïðîòîñëàâÿíàìè. Åãî ïðåäñòàâèòåëè ýòîé âåòâè îáèòàþò, â îñíîâíîì, ê ñåâåðó îò Äóíàÿ: â Ïîëüøå, Óêðàèíå, Áåëàðóñè, Ðîññèè, ñòðàíàõ Áàëòèè, íî òàêæå âñòðå÷àþòñÿ â Ãðåöèè è Áîëãàðèè. Ñåâåðíûé êëàñòåð ãàïëîãðóïïû I2à-Y3120 äåëèòñÿ åù¸ íà íåñêîëüêî âåòâåé. Íî äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû òî÷íî îïðåäåëèòü, ê êàêîé èç íèõ ïðèíàäëåæèò ðîä ..., íóæíû ðåçóëüòàòû äîïîëíèòåëüíîãî òåñòà. Âìåñòå ñ òåì, èñõîäÿ èç èìåþùèõñÿ ó íàñ çíà÷åíèé Y-õðîìîñîìíûõ ìàðêåðîâ ..., ïóòåì ñîïîñòàâëåíèÿ èõ ñ äàííûìè äðóãèõ ïðåäñòàâèòåëåé Ñåâåðíîãî êëàñòåðà, ñäåëàí ïðîãíîç, ñîãëàñíî êîòîðîìó ïîòîìêè ... ñ âåðîÿòíîñòüþ â 53,8 % îòíîñÿòñÿ ê âåòâè S17250 (îáùèé ïðåäîê äëÿ âñåõ å¸ ïðåäñòàâèòåëåé æèë îêîëî 1850 ëåò íàçàä), à òàêæå âõîäÿùåé â íå¸ âåòâè A815 (îáùèé ïðåäîê äëÿ âñåõ å¸ ïðåäñòàâèòåëåé æèë îêîëî 1650 ëåò íàçàä).

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