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10 ������ 2008 21:42Ëåãëåð, Âàêåð astanaÇäðàâñòâóéòå! Ê ñîæàëåíèþ, ÿ íè ôàìèëèè Ëåãëåð, íè ôàìèëè Âàêåð íå âèæó â àëôàâèòíûõ ñïèñêàõ. Ïîñìîòðèòå, ïîæàëóéñòà ñàìè. Ñïèñêè â ïåðâûõ äâóõ ñîîáùåíèÿõ ýòîé òåìû, âîò ññûëêà: https://forum.vgd.ru/post/2/12345/p221823.htm#pp221823Åñëè íàéäåòå ÷òî-òî õîòÿ áû ïîõîæåå, äàéòå çíàòü. ß, ñî ñâîåé ñòîðîíû, ïðîâåðþ ïî ìîèì çàïèñÿì. Ìîæåò áûòü, ÷òî ôàìèëèÿ â àëôàâèòíûå ñïèñêè íå âîøëà èëè íàéäó ÷òî-íèáóäü ïîõîæåå. Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Ëèëèÿ ---
Âñå ìîè ëè÷íûå äàííûå ðàçìåùåíû ìíîþ íà ñàéòå äîáðîâîëüíî è ñïåöèàëüíî äëÿ ïîèñêà ðîäñòâåííèêîâ
Àáûçîâ (Ñàìàðñêàÿ è Êàçàíñêàÿ ãóá.), Êîíäóðóøêèí (âñå íàøè), Çåëåí÷óêîâ è Ñåëèâàíîâ (Ïåíçåíñêàÿ ãóá.), Ôëîðîâ, Øèãèí (Ñàìàðà), ×åðíÿâñêèé, Êóçüìèí, Ñåðãèåâñê | | |
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10 ������ 2008 21:47Áåêêåð Jannett
Ïî ôàìèëèè Áåêêåð èíôîðìàöèè îêàçàëîñü íå òàê óæ ìíîãî.
Èç ñïèñêîâ ðîäèâøèõñÿ:
1875 ã. Áåêêåð (Åêàòåðèíîñëàâ)
1907 ã. Áåêêåð Íàòàëèÿ, ðîäèëàñü 02.07. Îòåö Ãóñòàâ, ìàòü Îëüãà (ó ìåíÿ åñòü êñåðîêîïèÿ ñòðàíèöû ñ ýòîé çàïèñüþ. Åñëè íàäî, äàéòå çíàòü, îòñêàíèðóþ è ïðèøëþ).
Èç çàïèñåé î áðàêîñî÷åòàíèÿõ:
¹ çàïèñè — ìåñòî — ñâåäåíèÿ î âñòóïèâøåì â áðàê — ñâåäåíèÿ î âñòóïèâøåé â áðàê
¹ 287 -- Ñàìàðà -- ÑÌÈÐÍÎÂ Ëåîíèä -- ãð. ã. Åêàòåðèíîñëàâà ÁÅÊÊÅÐ Ôðèäåðèêå Èäà Àâãóñòîâíà
Êòî-íèáóäü èç Âàøèõ åñòü?
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Àáûçîâ (Ñàìàðñêàÿ è Êàçàíñêàÿ ãóá.), Êîíäóðóøêèí (âñå íàøè), Çåëåí÷óêîâ è Ñåëèâàíîâ (Ïåíçåíñêàÿ ãóá.), Ôëîðîâ, Øèãèí (Ñàìàðà), ×åðíÿâñêèé, Êóçüìèí, Ñåðãèåâñê | | |
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10 ������ 2008 21:53 montem
Ñïàñèáî! Íî èç ìîèõ íèêîãî íåò.
ß èùó Ôëîðåíòèíó Áåêêåð | | |
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10 ������ 2008 21:56 Jannett
Ñîæàëåþ. Áîëüøå ó ìåíÿ íè÷åãî íåò.
Âû çíàåòå òî÷íûé ãîä åå ðîæäåíèÿ?
 äàííûõ î ðîæäåíèÿõ çà 1875 ãîä âåäü âîîáùå èìÿ íå óêàçàíî.
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Âñå ìîè ëè÷íûå äàííûå ðàçìåùåíû ìíîþ íà ñàéòå äîáðîâîëüíî è ñïåöèàëüíî äëÿ ïîèñêà ðîäñòâåííèêîâ
Àáûçîâ (Ñàìàðñêàÿ è Êàçàíñêàÿ ãóá.), Êîíäóðóøêèí (âñå íàøè), Çåëåí÷óêîâ è Ñåëèâàíîâ (Ïåíçåíñêàÿ ãóá.), Ôëîðîâ, Øèãèí (Ñàìàðà), ×åðíÿâñêèé, Êóçüìèí, Ñåðãèåâñê | | |
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10 ������ 2008 22:13 montem
Ãîä ðîæäåíèÿ Ôëîðåíòèíû Áåêêåð 1877.
Óâàæàåìàÿ Ëèëèÿ!
Ìû îáðàùàëèñü â Ãîñ. èñòîðè÷åñêèé àðõèâ íåìöåâ Ïîâîëæüÿ ã. Ýíãåëüñà ïî ðîçûñêó Sommer è Bekker. Íî èìåííî ñâåäåíèÿ ïî ñåëó Áðàáàíäåð, ãäå ïðîæèâàëè íàøè ïðåäêè, íåò è, êàê îòâåòèëè íàì, î ìåñòå èõ íàõîæäåíèÿ àðõèâ íå ðàñïîëàãàåò. Ñåìüÿ áûëà ëþòåðàíñêîé âåðû, íàäåÿëèñü, ÷òî â öåðêâè ëþòåðàíñêîé (êîò. íàõîäèëàñü â äåðåâíå) ìîãëè áû áûòü õîòü êàêèå-òî çàïèñè, íî ïîíÿëè, ÷òî ïîèñêè î÷åâèäíî áåñïîëåçíû. Óõâàòèòüñÿ íå çà ÷òî.
Ñïàñèáî Âàì çà âàøå äîáðîå ñåðäöå. | | |
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11 ������ 2008 10:15Legler prosmotrela ogromnoe kolicestvo ssylok v Internete, no nicego ne naschla. Popadajutsa Fam. Legler, no moi li eto rodstvenniki, ne znaju.
Leglera zili v Doenhof, Grimm (lesnoj Karamysch), izvestno cto praded byl Ucitelem.
U Deduschki v Biblii zapisj Legler Johannes 27.05.1868 Kamyschin/Wolga.
Brat Jakob (1878) emigriroval v 1907 godu v Ameriku.
Podskazite pozalujsta, gde chranjatsa archivy Goroda Kamyschin?
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Irina | | |
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11 ������ 2008 10:26Fam. Bauer, Müller, Kraus Zdravstvujte Lilia,
naschla esche odnu zapisj,
pervaja zena Legler Johannes byla Maria Kraus
vtoruju zvali Müller Elisabeth 19.08.1873 (1. Ehe Bauer)
s uvazeniem Irina | | |
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12 ������ 2008 22:48 Jannett
Âîò ÂÑÅ ôàìèëèè, êîòîðûå óïîìÿíóòû ó ìåíÿ â ñïèñêàõ ðîäèâøèõñÿ çà 1877 ãîä:
Øåôôåð
Àëëóðåíäèíãåð (Ñàìàðà)
Ãðîñêîïîð
Êðàìåð
Ëàóð
Øðåéíåð
Øóìàí (Ðÿçàíü)
Ìåòöëåð (Ñàìàðà)
Âèäåìàí (Ñàðàòîâ)
Ìàåâñêè Èâàí, áåç äàòû, ã. Ïëåñêàí(ó) îòåö – Äîíàò, ìàòü – Þëèÿ
Øâàá
Êîðåëü (âñòðå÷àåòñÿ äâàæäû, Êëþ÷è)
Êàðëý
Çåííèíã (Áàçåëü)
Ðàóø
Øòðàóñ (Ðåâåëü)
Öåïôåëü (Ïåòðîçàâîäñê)
Íî ìíå êàçàëîñü, ÷òî ÿ ãäå-òî âèäåëà èíôîðìàöèþ ïðî Áðàáàíäåð. Ýòî âåäü êîëîíèÿ áûëà? Äà?
×òî-òî ó ìåíÿ ñåé÷àñ êîìïüþòåð "äóðèò" - íå ìîãó íè÷åãî íàéòè. Àíòèâèðóñ çàïóñòèëà. Åñëè ÷òî-òî íàéäó, äàì çíàòü!
֏!
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È åùå. Âîçìîæíî, ÷òî Âàøè íå íàõîäèëèñü ïî êàêèì-òî ïðè÷èíàì â âåäåíèè èìåííî Ñàìàðñêîé äóõîâíîé êîíñèñòîðèè. Òîãäà íàäî èñêàòü äðóãèå âîçìîæíûå çàïèñè!!!
Äîáàâëåíèå. Íå çíàþ, ãäå Âû íàõîäèòåñü. Åñëè çà ðóáåæàìè íàøåé Ðîäèíû, òî Âàì, íàâåðíîå, ïðîùå ïîïûòàòüñÿ ïðèîáùèòüñÿ ê ýòèì èñòî÷íèêàì:
Description of the Saratov colony of ..
American Historical Society of Germans from Russia
Extracts transcribed and translated from the 1798 census of the former ethnic German colonies in Saratov, Russia.
Contents: [v. 1, pt. 1] Barataevka (Bettinger) -- [pt. 2] Basel (Kratz) -- [pt. 3]. Baskakovka (Kind) -- [pt. 4] Beauregard -- [pt. 5] Berezovka (Dehler) -- [pt. 6] Boisroux (Boaro, Bordovskoye) -- [pt. 7] Brockhausen (Hummel) -- [pt. 8] Buidakov Buyerak (Schwab) -- [pt. 9] Ernestinendorf (Beckersdorf) -- [pt. 10] Glarus (Biberstein) -- [pt. 11] Gnilushka (Pfeifer) -- [pt. 12] Grechinaya Luka (Walter) -- [pt. 13] Gryaznovatka (Schuck) -- [pt. 14] Hockerberg (Bohn) -- [pt. 15] Ilavlya (Leichtling) -- [v. 2, pt. 1] Kamenny Ovrag (Degott) -- [p. 2] Kaneau -- [pt. 3] Karamyshevka (Bauer) -- [pt. 4] Karaulny Buyerak (Köhler) -- [pt. 5] Katharinenstadt (Baronsk) -- [pt. 6] Kazitskaya (Brabander) -- [pt. 7] Kochetnaya (Hölzel) -- [pt. 8] Kopenka (Volmer) -- [pt. 9] Krasnopolye (Preuss) --[pt. 10] Krasny Yar (Krasnoyar) -- [pt. 11] Krestovoi Buyerak (Müller) -- [pt. 12] Krutoyarovka (Graf) -- [pt. 13] Kustarevo-Krasnorynovka (Neu-Kolonie) -- [v. 3, pt. 1] Linevo Ozero (Hussenbach) -- [pt. 2] Lipov Kut (Urbach) -- [pt. 3] Lipovka (Schäfer) -- [pt. 4] Lugovaya Gryaznukha (Schulz) -- [pt. 5] Luzern (Remmler/Römmler) -- [pt. 6] Makarovka (Merkel) -- [pt. 7] Medveditskoi Krestovoy Buyerak (Frank) -- [pt. 8] Nieder-Monjou -- [pt. 9] Nizhnaya Dobrinka (Dobrinka) -- [pt. 10] Ober-Monjou -- [pt. 11] Oleshna (Dietel) -- [pt. 12] Orlovskaya -- [pt. 13] Osinovka (Reinhard) -- [pt. 14] Ostrogovka (Louis)
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[v. 4., pt. 1] Pamyatnaya (Rothammel) -- [pt. 2] Paninskaya (Schönchen) -- [pt. 3] Panovka (Hildmann) -- [pt. 4] Paulskaya -- [pt. 5] Peskovatka (Kolb) -- [pt. 6] Philippsfeld -- [pt. 7] Pochinnaya (Kratzke) -- [pt. 8] Podstepnaya (Rosenheim) -- [pt. 9] Popovkina (Jost) -- [pt. 10] Privolnaya (Warenburg) -- [pt. 11] Raskaty (Rohleder) -- [pt. 12] Rezanovka (Näb) -- [pt. 13] Rossoshi (Franzosen) -- [pt. 14] Rovnaya (Seelmann) -- [v.5, pt. 1] Schaffhausen (Volkovo) -- [pt. 2] Semenovka -- [pt. 3] (German) Shcherbakovka -- [pt. 4] Skatovka (Straub) -- [pt. 5] Solothurn (Wittmann) -- [pt. 6] Staritsa (Reinwald) -- [pt. 7] Stephan (Vodyanoi Buyerak) -- [pt. 8] Stepnaya (Stahl am Tarlyk) -- [pt. 9] Susannental (Winkelman) -- [pt. 10] Susly (Herzog) -- [pt. 11] Tarlyk (Laub) -- [pt. 12] Tarlykovka (Dinkel) -- [pt. 13] Telyauza (Fischer) -- [pt.14] Tonkoshurovka (Mariental) -- [v. 6, pt. 1] Unterwalden (Meinhard) -- [pt. 2] Ust-Gryaznukha (Göbel) -- [pt. 3] Ust-Karaman (Enders) -- [pt. 4] Ust-Kulalinka (Galka) -- [pt. 5] Verkhnaya Dobrinka (Dreispitz) -- [pt. 6] Verkhnaya Gryaznukha (Kraft) -- [pt. 7] Verkhnaya Kulalinka (Holstein) -- [pt. 8] Verkhovye (Seewald) -- [pt. 9] Vershinka (Kautz) -- [pt. 10] Volskaya (Kukkus) -- [pt. 11] Yablonovka (Lauwe) -- [pt. 12] Yagondnaya Polyana -- [pt. 13] Yelshanka (Husaren) -- [pt. 14] Zaumorye (Bangert) -- [pt. 15] Zug (Gattung) -- [pt. 16] Zürich (Eckardt) -- [pt. 17] Zvonarev Kut (Stahl am Karaman) -- [pt. 18] Zvonarevka (Schwed).
Êàê ÿ ïîíèìàþ, ýòî ìîíîãðàôèè, îïóáëèêîâàííûå Lincoln, Nebraska: American Historical Society of Germans from Russia, 1995
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1798 Census of the German colonies along the Volga : economy, population, and agriculture
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The 1775 and 1798 Censuses of the German Colony on the Volga Lesnoy Karamysh, also known as Grimm
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