Метрические записи Лютеранской церкви Самарской губернии

Sergey 1979


Sergey 1979 написал:

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а автор говорит по-русски?

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Ох. Вот в этом сильно сомневаюсь.
Хотя кто знает...

Удачи!
Лилия

воропот написал:

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Сергей поищи своих вот в этом супер дереве Сергея Киндсфатера

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Это случайно не тот ли Сергей Киндсфатер, который в генетическо-генеалогическом проекте на 23andme присутствует???
Если он, то он мой "потенциальный" родственник!!!

А там есть Сабельфельды и Дизендорфы?

Hello,

Sorry for typing in English. Don't have Russian keyboard...

I am not sure how to use your forum, but I am looking for information on Kaufman(n) living in Samara in mid to late 1800ds.

My Great Great grandfather was kantonist, who settle in this city after the service in Tzar's Alexander II army. His first name I believe, was Haim.
His father was also kantonist but in army of Tzar Nicolai I. Don't know where he lived or his name.

Haim had daughter Tzipporah (my Great Grandmother) and other children.
She run away (possibly St. Petersburg) with Russian officer, that was staying in Samara at that time (first name Vladimir. My Great Grandfather. Don't know last name).
Tziporrah converted to Christianity and had two children: my Grandfather Naum (Nikolai) and his sister Fenya (Fanya).
Then she left her husband and came back home with children.
Her father Haim was furious at her for running away and converting. He took his little grandchildren from her and throw her out of the house .
He gave children his last name - Kaufman(n)
Probably at that time, he changed my grandfather's first name as well, from Nikolai to Naum, but my grandfather could change it later himself, I am not sure.

I 'd like to know:
If there is a record of Haim Kaufman, kantonist, living in Samara... Anything on his life. Anything on his father's first name, so I can search life of his father the kantonist also. Their wife names, etc. anything...

If there is a record of Tziporrah, marrying Vladimir ? Russian officer. I want to know his last name. He was my Great Grandfather and I don't know anything about him, because my grandfather last name was changed...

Appreciate your help. Sorry for typing in English, I don't have Russian keyboard...

Thank You So Much,

Alla

Я буду ждать ! Я проверила в списках нет. Приятного отдыха!

Ocsanuys


Ocsanuys написал:

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Я проверила в списках нет

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Если в списках нет, то вряд ли у меня на эти фамилии есть какая-либо информация.
Имеет смысл посмотреть похожие фамилии, т.к. в этих списках очень много ошибок, описок и вообще неточностей.
Видимо, они писались со списков на немецком языке, поэтому писали кто как хотел.

И еще. Вы уверены, что они лютеране? Могли ведь быть католиками или меннонитами.

С уважением,
Лилия