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Äèàëîãîâàÿ òåìà (âîïðîñû/îòâåòû)
Atkara-EVÄîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà  Î÷åíü ñðåäíåå Ïîâîëæüå Ñîîáùåíèé: 6146 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2011 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 9003 | Ââåðõ #20 ÿíâàðÿ 2021 15:36 923denis íàïèñàë: [q] Ïîñëåäíåå óïîìèíàíèå î íåì äàòèðóåòñÿ 1915ã, ðîæäåíèå äî÷åðè â ñ.Ñóìû. [/q]
Íó åñëè çàïèñü î ðîæäåíèè äî÷åðè ñäåëàíà â ïðàâîñëàâíîé ìåòðè÷åñêîé êíèãå, à ïðî îòöà óêàçàíî "ïðàâîñëàâíîãî èñïîâåäàíèÿ" òî âåðñèÿ ñ îòúåçäîì â Èçðàèëü/Ïàëåñòèíó âûãëÿäèò ôàíòàñòè÷åñêîé. 923denis íàïèñàë: [q] Ýòè÷íî è ýñòåòè÷íî ëè ðàçìåùàòü ïîñìåðòíîå ôîòî?[/q]
Ýòî ðåøàòü âàì. Äëÿ ïîñìåðòíûõ ôîòî äàæå åñòü îòäåëüíàÿ òåìà. Âèäèòå ëè, ïîãðåáàëüíûå îáðÿäû ó ïðàâîñëàâíûõ è èóäååâ îòëè÷àþòñÿ. Èóäåè îáÿçàòåëüíî çàêðûâàþò ëèöî ïîêîéíèêà è îáëà÷àþò åãî â ñàâàí. Òî åñòü åñëè ÷åëîâåê ëåæèò â ãðîáó ñ îòêðûòûì ëèöîì, â êîñòþìå è ñ áóìàæíûìè öâåòàìè/èêîíàìè è ò.ï. - îí óìåð è ïîãðåáåí ïî ïðàâîñëàâíîìó îáðÿäó. --- Äâîðÿíñòâî è ñâÿùåííîñëóæèòåëè Ñàðàòîâñêîé ãóáåðíèè. Àòêàðñêèé óåçä - èñòîðèÿ, ãåíåàëîãèÿ. | | |
BertaLÄîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà  Ñîîáùåíèé: 340 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2012 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 521 | Ââåðõ #20 ÿíâàðÿ 2021 16:25 20 ÿíâàðÿ 2021 16:57 Atkara-EV íàïèñàë: [q] Íó åñëè çàïèñü î ðîæäåíèè äî÷åðè ñäåëàíà â ïðàâîñëàâíîé ìåòðè÷åñêîé êíèãå, à ïðî îòöà óêàçàíî "ïðàâîñëàâíîãî èñïîâåäàíèÿ" òî âåðñèÿ ñ îòúåçäîì â Èçðàèëü/Ïàëåñòèíó âûãëÿäèò ôàíòàñòè÷åñêîé.[/q]
À íå ìîã ëè îí òóäà ïîäàòüñÿ êàê ïðàâîñëàâíûé â (õðèñòèàíñêèé) ïðàâîñëàâíûé æå ìîíàñòûðü? Íàïðèìåð, ñðàçó ïîñëå ðåâîëþöèè, â íà÷àëå 20-å ãã 20 âåêà. 30 å ãã çâó÷àò óæå ôàíòàñòè÷íî, äà) --- Ëîìàçîâ - Çîëîòîíîøà, Êàíåâ
Ìàçå - ×åðíîáàé, Çîëîòîíîøà
Åâíèí , Ëèîêóìîâè÷, Øàïèðî, Âàéíøòåéí - Ïàðè÷è/Ãëóñê/Ãîðîäîê/Áîáðóéñê/Ãîìåëü | | |
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Ñîîáùåíèé: 1257 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2020 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 3959 | Ââåðõ #20 ÿíâàðÿ 2021 19:06 BertaL íàïèñàë: [q] À íå ìîã ëè îí òóäà ïîäàòüñÿ êàê ïðàâîñëàâíûé â (õðèñòèàíñêèé) ïðàâîñëàâíûé æå ìîíàñòûðü? Íàïðèìåð, ñðàçó ïîñëå ðåâîëþöèè, â íà÷àëå 20-å ãã 20 âåêà. 30 å ãã çâó÷àò óæå ôàíòàñòè÷íî, äà) [/q]
Âû åùå ïðåäïîëîæèòå õàääæ â Ìåêêó... | | |
BertaLÄîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà  Ñîîáùåíèé: 340 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2012 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 521 | Ââåðõ #20 ÿíâàðÿ 2021 19:51 20 ÿíâàðÿ 2021 19:59 NORD-OST íàïèñàë: [q] Âû åùå ïðåäïîëîæèòå õàääæ â Ìåêêó...[/q]
Íåò, ÿ èìåëà â âèäó ÷òî-òî òèïà Ðóññêîãî ïîäâîðüÿ â Èåðóñàëèìå. Èëè âîò, íàïðèìåð, ïîñëå èçó÷åíèÿ ðåçóëüòàòîâ ãóãë ïîèñêà Ìîíàñòûðè Ïàëåñòèíà. https://azbyka.ru/palomnik/%D0...%BB%D1%8C)Íî ïèñüìî ïðèøëî áû èç Ïàëåñòèíû, à íå èç Èçðàèëÿ. Âîîáùåì, íåñîñòîÿòåëüíàÿ âåðñèÿ, äà. --- Ëîìàçîâ - Çîëîòîíîøà, Êàíåâ
Ìàçå - ×åðíîáàé, Çîëîòîíîøà
Åâíèí , Ëèîêóìîâè÷, Øàïèðî, Âàéíøòåéí - Ïàðè÷è/Ãëóñê/Ãîðîäîê/Áîáðóéñê/Ãîìåëü | | |
Geo ZÄîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà  LT Ñîîáùåíèé: 20117 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 13383 | Ââåðõ #20 ÿíâàðÿ 2021 20:18 20 ÿíâàðÿ 2021 20:20 BertaL íàïèñàë: [q] Íî ïèñüìî ïðèøëî áû èç Ïàëåñòèíû, à íå èç Èçðàèëÿ.[/q]
À îòêóäà èçâåñòíî? ×òî èç Èçðàèëÿ. 923denis íàïèñàë: [q] ýòî âñå ñî ñëîâ ïðàáàáóøêè, ïîýòîìó è õî÷ó âûÿñíèòü ïðàâäó.[/q] | | |
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Ñîîáùåíèé: 1257 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2020 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 3959 | Ââåðõ #20 ÿíâàðÿ 2021 21:46 BertaL íàïèñàë: [q] Â-îáùåì, íåñîñòîÿòåëüíàÿ âåðñèÿ, äà. [/q]
Êîíå÷íî. Âîîáùå, èç 100 ðàññêàçîâ ïðåäêîâ ïîäòâåðæäàåòñÿ 1-2. À â óêàçàííîå âðåìÿ, ÷åëîâåê ïîåõàë áû íå â Ïàëåñòèíó, à íà Êîëûìó èëè â ðàññòðåëüíûé ïîäâàë. Ñ îáâèíåíèåì â èçìåíå Ðîäèíå. Ñàæàëè "çà øïèîíàæ", òîëüêî çà ðàçãîâîð ñ èíîñòðàíöåì, åñëè êòî-òî íå çíàåò... | | |
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Ìîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 6924 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2016 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 2935 | Ââåðõ #21 ÿíâàðÿ 2021 1:47 923denis íàïèñàë: [q] ýìèãðèðîâàë â Èçðàèëü èç Íîâîñèáèðñêîé îáëàñòè[/q]
âûñëàí êàê ÷ëåí ñèîíèñòñêîé ïàðòèè? Äà íó. À âîò ïîåõàòü â êàêîé-íèáóäü Íîâûé Èåðóñàëèì âïîëíå ìîã... --- Ïëàí íà ýòó íåäåëþ: ïí - ÖÈÀÌ/ÃÀÐÔ, âò ÐÃÀÝ/ÖÈÀÌ, ñð ÐÃÂÈÀ, ÷ò ÃÀÐÔ/ÖÈÀÌ, ïò ÖÈÀÌ | | Ëàéê (1) |
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Ñîîáùåíèé: 1 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2021 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 6 | Ââåðõ #21 ÿíâàðÿ 2021 21:34 Hello there, Searching for any information for below: Surnames: CHERCHES OR CZERCZES and another is BUDISH I remember that the names Minsk, Pinsk, Kiev Chaim Cherches born 1897 and brother was Iche (Isaak) and some sisters - many killed in Holocaust....chaim survived and married Cherna (Dora) Budish Roman Cherches possibly Toniczys, Poland - i think father was Iche (Isaak) and both were in camps..Roman survived but is deceased Budish family was Leib, Feige, and children....searching ancestry for all Some of the families ended up in Cuba Surnames: POSESOWSKY, Abraham and Miriam or similar like POSESORSKA and RUBINSTEIN, SRUL I remember that the names Lodz, Warsaw Rubinstein, Srul - possibly born in Russia and possibly orphaned and adopted by Posesowsky family....Srul married Leia Golda Aizjenbaum or Eisenbaum Some of the families ended up in Cuba Thank you for your efforts  first time user hope I put it together okay - sorry I just lost my mother (z"l) and am a bit off. | | |
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Ìîñêâà Ñîîáùåíèé: 3 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2021 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 2 | Ââåðõ #26 ÿíâàðÿ 2021 22:29 Çäðàâñòâóéòå! Ìîÿ ïðàáàáóøêà Äóáðîâà Åâãåíèÿ (Ãåíÿ) Ñàâåëüåâíà (1900 ã ð) è åå áëèçêèé ðîäñòâåííèê Äóáðîâ Ì.Ø. (1885ã ð) ðîäèëèñü â ìåñòå÷êå Ãëóññê, Áîáðóéñêîé îáëàñòè, Ãëóññêîãî ðàéîíà. Äî íà÷àëà âîéíû óñïåëè ïåðååõàòü â Ìîñêîâñêóþ îáëàñòü. Ïîæàëóéñòà, ïîäñêàæèòå ëþáóþ èíôîðìàöèþ ïî ïîâîäó èõ ðîäñòâåííèêîâ. Cïàñèáî! | | |
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Ñîîáùåíèé: 1257 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2020 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 3959 | Ââåðõ #26 ÿíâàðÿ 2021 23:37 aaa91 íàïèñàë: [q] Çäðàâñòâóéòå! Ìîÿ ïðàáàáóøêà Äóáðîâà Åâãåíèÿ (Ãåíÿ) Ñàâåëüåâíà (1900 ã ð) è åå áëèçêèé ðîäñòâåííèê Äóáðîâ Ì.Ø. (1885ã ð) ðîäèëèñü â ìåñòå÷êå Ãëóññê, Áîáðóéñêîé îáëàñòè, Ãëóññêîãî ðàéîíà. Äî íà÷àëà âîéíû óñïåëè ïåðååõàòü â Ìîñêîâñêóþ îáëàñòü. Ïîæàëóéñòà, ïîäñêàæèòå ëþáóþ èíôîðìàöèþ ïî ïîâîäó èõ ðîäñòâåííèêîâ. Cïàñèáî![/q]
Íå áûëî â 1885 ã., íè â 1900 ã. Áîáðóéñêîé îáëàñòè. À áûë îäíîèìåííûé óåçä Ìèíñêîé ãóáåðíèè. Âîò è èùèòå êíèãè ðàââèíàòà ïî äàííîìó ðåãèîíó. | | |
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