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Ãåðìàíèÿ (íåì. Deutschland), îôèöèàëüíîå íàçâàíèå — Ôåäåðàòèâíàÿ Ðåñïóáëèêà Ãåðìàíèÿ (íåì. Bundesrepublik Deutschland), ÔÐÃ (íåì. BRD) — ãîñóäàðñòâî â Öåíòðàëüíîé Åâðîïå.
Ñòîëèöà — Áåðëèí. Ãîñóäàðñòâåííûé ÿçûê — íåìåöêèé.

ÀÒÄ Ãåðìàíèè -
Ãåðìàíèÿ — ãîñóäàðñòâî ñ ôåäåðàòèâíûì óñòðîéñòâîì; â ñîñòàâå 16 ðàâíîïðàâíûõ ñóáúåêòîâ — çåìåëü (Land)
Çåìëè äåëÿòñÿ íà ðàéîíû (íåì. Kreis) è âíåðàéîííûå ãîðîäà (íåì. Kreisfreie Stadt), çåìëè Ãàìáóðã è Áåðëèí — íà ãîðîäñêèå îêðóãà (íåì. Bezirk), ðàéîíû äåëÿòñÿ íà ãîðîäà (íåì. Stadt) è îáùèíû (íåì. Gemeinde), âíåðàéîííûå ãîðîäà — íà ãîðîäñêèå ðàéîíû (íåì. Ortschaft), îêðóãà çåìåëü Ãàìáóðã è Áåðëèí íà êâàðòàëû (íåì. Ortsteil), ãîðîäà, îáùèíû, îêðóãà è êâàðòàëû äåëÿòñÿ íà æèëûå òåððèòîðèè (íåì. Wohngebiet). Áàâàðèÿ èìååò ïðîìåæóòî÷íîå çâåíî ìåæäó çåìë¸é è ðàéîíîì — àäìèíèñòðàòèâíûé îêðóã (íåì. Bezirk).



Êîììåíòàðèé ìîäåðàòîðà:
:ex: ÂÍÈÌÀÍÈÅ
Ïîæàëóéñòà, ïî îòäåëüíûì íàñåëåííûì ìåñòàì è ñâîèì ëè÷íûì ïîèñêàì îòêðûâàéòå òåìû â ôàìèëüíûõ èëè äíåâíèêîâûõ ðàçäåëàõ. Ñïèñîê íàñåëåííûõ ìåñò ïî ñòðàíå îãðîìåí è æåëàþùèõ îòêðûòü èíäèâèäóàëüíûå òåìû ìíîãî. Äîïóñêàåòñÿ ðàçáèâêà ïî òåìàì íà çåìëè, ãîðîäà, ðàéîíû. Ïðîñüáà - ïðèäåðæèâàòüñÿ ýòîé ñõåìû.


Ïðèêðåïëåííûé ôàéë: 1.jpg2.jpg, 52205 áàéò
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Ïàë³é, Øóì, Ãîðåíêî, Ìèõíî, Ñÿáåð, Öèêóí
Irina Ol
Äîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà

Irina Ol

Ñ-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ñîîáùåíèé: 5412
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 17177

Bones íàïèñàë:
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Âàøà ïðàáàáóøêà, Êàðîëèíà Ãàáðèýëü (â äåâè÷åñòâå Deutschmann) ðîäèëàñü 30 ìàðòà 1900 ã.
Ÿ ðîäèòåëåé çâàëè Jakob Deutschmann è Maria Deutschmann (äåâ.Kenner, 1868 ã.ð.).
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Bones íàïèñàë:
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elena_krd íàïèñàë:
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À îòêóäà "äðîâèøêè"?
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Èç ëåñó, âåñòèìî
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Ãðóáîâàòî... Îáû÷íî ññûëêè äàþò.


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Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Èðèíà.
Bones
Äîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà

Bones

Ñîîáùåíèé: 1687
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Ðåéòèíã: 7714

Irina Ol íàïèñàë:
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Ãðóáîâàòî...
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Ãäå Âû óâèäåëè ãðóáîñòü â ìî¸ì îòâåòå? :shocked
Irina Ol
Äîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà

Irina Ol

Ñ-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ñîîáùåíèé: 5412
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 17177
Bones Ó Âàñ ñïðîñèëè èñòî÷íèê èíôîðìàöèè (èíòåðíåò-èñòî÷íèê) https://forum.vgd.ru/post/158/17050/p3178737.htm#pp3178737
Âû åãî íå äàëè, "îòøóòèâøèñü".
ß è íàïèñàëà, ÷òî îáû÷íî ññûëêè äàþò íà èñòî÷íèê èíôîðìàöèè.
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Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Èðèíà.
elena_krd
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elena_krd

Ñîîáùåíèé: 7143
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Ðåéòèíã: 11661
Ïèøåòå:

Bones íàïèñàë:
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Ññûëêó â ñòóäèþ, ïîæàëóéñòà
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Òàê îò÷åãî æ ñàìè òàê ñêðîìíè÷àåòå?

Bones íàïèñàë:
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Èç ëåñó, âåñòèìî
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È ãäå æå ññûëî÷êà íà èñòî÷íèê? ;)

Êàê ìèíèìóì îäíó íåòî÷íîñòü ó Âàñ âèæó.
Jakob Deutschmann, êîòîðîãî Âû îáîçíà÷èëè îòöîì Êàðîëèíû, äåéñòâèòåëüíî ðîäèëñÿ 20 îêòÿáðÿ 1865 ã. ó êîëîíèñòîâ Ìàðòèíà è Ôëîðåíòèíû (óð.Vogelsang), íî íè â êàêîì íå
Bones íàïèñàë:
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Âàðìèíüñêî-Ìàçóðñêîãî âîåâîäñòâà (êîòîðîå ðàñïîëîæåíî íà ñåâåðå Ïîëüøè), â ~10 êì îò ãðàíèöû ñ Êàëèíèíãðàäñêîé îáëàñòüþ. Äî 1945 ã. ýòîò íàñåëåííûé ïóíêò âõîäèë â ñîñòàâ Ãåðìàíèè (Âîñòî÷íîé Ïðóññèè).
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à âîâñå ïîä Ìàðèóïîëåì.
Êîëîíèÿ òàêè äà - Wiekerau (íûíåøíÿÿ Êóçíåöîâêà). Ïðèõîä Ãðþíàó.

Çàïèñü î ðîæäåíèè Jakob Deutschmann, 20 îêòÿáðÿ 1865
ÐÃÈÀ, Ôîíä 828. Îï. 14. Ä. 143. 1865 ã. Ðîæäåíèÿ, áðàêè, ñìåðòè.

Ïðèêðåïëåííûé ôàéë: record-image_ (1).jpgrecord-image_.jpg, 1603231 áàéò
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Ñïàñèáî.
Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Åëåíà.

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Øàôðàíîâñêèå (Ãîìåëüñêèé óåçä Ìîãèëåâñêîé ãóá.), Öåëèöî(à) (âåçäå), Öû(è)òîâè÷è (Ìîãèëåâñêàÿ ãóá.), Êà(î)êòûø (Çóáåëåâè÷è/Ëÿõîâè÷è, Ñëóöêîãî óåçäà Ìèíñêîé ãóá.).
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Bones

Ñîîáùåíèé: 1687
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Ðåéòèíã: 7714

Irina Ol íàïèñàë:
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Bones Ó Âàñ ñïðîñèëè èñòî÷íèê èíôîðìàöèè (èíòåðíåò-èñòî÷íèê) https://forum.vgd.ru/post/158/17050/p3178737.htm#pp3178737
Âû åãî íå äàëè, "îòøóòèâøèñü".
ß è íàïèñàëà, ÷òî îáû÷íî ññûëêè äàþò íà èñòî÷íèê èíôîðìàöèè.
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Âñ¸ õîðîøî, íå ïåðåæèâàéòå òàê, ÿ óæå "ðàñêðûëà" Åëåíå ñâîè èñòî÷íèêè èíôîðìàöèè (myheritage, Âèêèïåäèÿ). Èçâèíèòå, åñëè Âû ïðèíÿëè ìîþ øóòêó çà ãðóáîñòü :)
Bones
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Bones

Ñîîáùåíèé: 1687
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2018 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 7714

elena_krd íàïèñàë:
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Êàê ìèíèìóì îäíó íåòî÷íîñòü ó Âàñ âèæó.
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Îøèáêà íå ìîÿ: êàê ÿ óæå íàïèñàëà, èíôîðìàöèÿ âçÿòà ìíîþ èç ðîäîñëîâíîãî äåðåâà íà myheritage. Èìåííî òî Wickerau, êîòîðîå óêàçàëà â ñîîáùåíèè ÿ, ñòîÿëî â ïðîôèëå Jakob Deutschmann, êîòîðîå, â ñâîþ î÷åðåäü, óêàçàë àäìèíèñòðàòîð ýòîãî ðîäîñëîâíîãî äðåâà (ò.å. òàì åñòü ññûëêà íà Google-êàðòó).

elena_krd íàïèñàë:
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Çàïèñü î ðîæäåíèè Jakob Deutschmann, 20 îêòÿáðÿ 1865
ÐÃÈÀ, Ôîíä 828. Îï. 14. Ä. 143. 1865 ã. Ðîæäåíèÿ, áðàêè, ñìåðòè.
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Ìåòðèêó âèæó â ïåðâûé ðàç. Âàø èñòî÷íèê îêàçàëñÿ ïðàâäèâåå ìîåãî ;)
elena_krd
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elena_krd

Ñîîáùåíèé: 7143
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Äûê, íàïèñàëè áû ñðàçó, îáùèìè áû óñèëèÿìè óæå âñå íåòî÷íîñòè âûïðàâèëè. Áûëî áû áûñòðåå è ïð.
Ê myheritage îòíîøóñü íå î÷åíü òåïëî. Îáúÿñíÿòü äîëãî. Íå çíàþ, ïðèãîäèòñÿ ëè èùóùåé. Íàøëîñü åùå âîò òàêîå:

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Martin Deutschmann (1800-1859) married Maria Neufeld (b. 1803). Martin was likely the son of Johann Deutschmann (1777-1836) and Catharina Fischer.
This family was from Wickerau, near Mariupol, South Russia. Wickerau was a village in what was known as the Grunau Colonies or the “Planer Kolonien”. They were members of the Grunau Evangelical (Lutheran) Church. (This church was part of the St. Petersburg consistory, whose records (1833-1885) have been microfilm by the Family History Center.)

Martin & Maria had the following children:
Martin (1822-1898), m to Florentina Vogelsang, 7 children
Johann (1823-1855), m to Regina Tuchel, 4 children
Anna (1825-1886), m to August Heinrich Schneider, 13 children
Jacob Martin (1827-1912), m to Regina Vietz, Elisabeth Vietz, Regina (Zoeller) Deutschmann, 14 children
Catherina (1830-1906), m to Peter David Hochbaum, 8 children
Peter (1832-1845)
Georg (1833-1881), m to Regina Zoeller, 10 children
Elisabeth (1836-1878), m to Heinrich Siemund, 8 children
Erdmann (1838-1893), m to Anna Maria Hochbaum, 9 children
Dietrich (1840- ?), m Dorothea Schmidt, 1 known child
Helena (1842-1864), m to Andreas David Peters, 1 known child
Gottlieb (1844- ?), m to Christina Litke, 1 known child

Anna, Jacob, Catherina, Elisabeth & Erdmann came with their families to America in 1875. Georg immigrated with his family in 1878. All except for Jacob settled in southwest Minnesota. Jacob (my 2xGr-grandfather) lived first in Kansas, then Minnesota, finally in Whitman County, Washington, where he died. I assume the others lived all their lives in Russia.

Óòÿíóòî ñ http://www.ancestry.com/boards...16/mb.ashx
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Ñïàñèáî.
Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Åëåíà.

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Øàôðàíîâñêèå (Ãîìåëüñêèé óåçä Ìîãèëåâñêîé ãóá.), Öåëèöî(à) (âåçäå), Öû(è)òîâè÷è (Ìîãèëåâñêàÿ ãóá.), Êà(î)êòûø (Çóáåëåâè÷è/Ëÿõîâè÷è, Ñëóöêîãî óåçäà Ìèíñêîé ãóá.).
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Bones

Ñîîáùåíèé: 1687
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Ðåéòèíã: 7714

elena_krd íàïèñàë:
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Äûê, íàïèñàëè áû ñðàçó, îáùèìè áû óñèëèÿìè óæå âñå íåòî÷íîñòè âûïðàâèëè. Áûëî áû áûñòðåå è ïð.
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Ó÷òó íà áóäóùåå, ÷òî íèêàêèì çàïèñÿì èç ÷óæèõ ðîäîñëîâíûõ äåðåâüåâ íåëüçÿ äîâåðÿòü íà 100%, íå óâèäåâ "ìåòðè÷åñêèõ äîêàçàòåëüñòâ". Óæ èçâèíèòå ìåíÿ :confz:
Irina Ol
Äîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà

Irina Ol

Ñ-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ñîîáùåíèé: 5412
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 17177

Bones íàïèñàë:
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Èçâèíèòå, åñëè Âû ïðèíÿëè ìîþ øóòêó çà ãðóáîñòü
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Òî åñòü ñåé÷àñ âäðóã äàëè ññûëêó íà èñòî÷íèêè?
À ÷òî ìåøàëî ýòî ñäåëàòü ñðàçó? Î÷åíü ìèëî âûãëÿäåëî - íàêèäàòü êó÷ó èíôîðìàöèè áåç ññûëêè íà èñòî÷íèê.
Îòêàçàòüñÿ äàâàòü ññûëêó íà âîïðîñ Åëåíû ("èç ëåñó, âåñòèìî").
À òåïåðü, êîãäà êîñÿê îáíàðóæèëñÿ - óæå è ññûëêà åñòü))))))
Bones íàïèñàë:
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Îøèáêà íå ìîÿ: êàê ÿ óæå íàïèñàëà, èíôîðìàöèÿ âçÿòà ìíîþ èç ðîäîñëîâíîãî äåðåâà íà myheritage. Èìåííî òî Wickerau, êîòîðîå óêàçàëà â ñîîáùåíèè ÿ, ñòîÿëî â ïðîôèëå Jakob Deutschmann, êîòîðîå, â ñâîþ î÷åðåäü, óêàçàë àäìèíèñòðàòîð ýòîãî ðîäîñëîâíîãî äðåâà (ò.å. òàì åñòü ññûëêà íà Google-êàðòó).
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:biggrin
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Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Èðèíà.
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Bones

Ñîîáùåíèé: 1687
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Òî åñòü ñåé÷àñ âäðóã äàëè ññûëêó íà èñòî÷íèêè?
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À ÷òî? Íå íàäî áûëî, äà? ß äóìàëà, ëó÷øå ïîçäíî...:biggrin

Irina Ol íàïèñàë:
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Î÷åíü ìèëî âûãëÿäåëî - íàêèäàòü êó÷ó èíôîðìàöèè áåç ññûëêè íà èñòî÷íèê.
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Òàê âñ¸-òàêè ìèëî, à íå ãðóáî? :)

Irina Ol íàïèñàë:
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Îòêàçàòüñÿ äàâàòü ññûëêó íà âîïðîñ Åëåíû ("èç ëåñó, âåñòèìî").
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Òàêîé îòâåò ñàì íàïðàøèâàåòñÿ íà ñîîòâåòñòâóþùèé âîïðîñ :shocked

Irina Ol íàïèñàë:
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À òåïåðü, êîãäà êîñÿê îáíàðóæèëñÿ
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Çàìå÷ó åù¸ ðàç: íåòî÷íîñòü èíôîðìàöèè íå íà ìîåé ñîâåñòè :)
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