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Íàâåðõ   ## 9 ôåâðàëÿ 2014 17:48
Íàòàøà, à êàêèå äèñòàíöèè?
×òî êàñàåòñÿ Àíãëèè, Øîòëàíäèè è Èðëàíäèè, òî ÿ áû íå îãîð÷àëàñü íà òâîåì ìåñòå. Õîðîøåå âåäü ñîñåäñòâî.
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×åì ïëîõè àíãëî-øîòëàíäñêèå ïðåäêè? Äà, ðàñêîïàòü ìîæåò áûòü òðóäíîâàòî, íî è ïå÷àëèòüñÿ, ìîæåò, íå ñòîèò?
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Íàâåðõ   ## 10 ôåâðàëÿ 2014 13:47

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Òà æå êàðòèíà ó ÷àñòè àçîâñêèõ ãðåêîâ, îñîáåííî óäèâèòåëüíî òî , ÷òî áîëüøå âñåãî ñåâåðîåâðîïåéñêèõ êîðíåé âûÿâèëîñü ó òþðêîÿçû÷íûõ óðóìîâ - âîò òàêîå îíî àâòîõîííîå íàñåëåíèå Êðûìà biggrin1.gif
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Òàê â 7, ÷òî ëè, âåêå (èëè äàæå ðàíüøå) Êðûì íàñåëÿëè ãîòû - î÷åíü äàæå ñåâåðíûé íàðîä
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Íàâåðõ   ## 17 ôåâðàëÿ 2014 12:51
Ãîòñêîå íàøåñòâèå â Êðûì ñîñòîÿëîñü â 262 ãîäó - íî ÷àñòü èç îñåâøèõ ãîòîâ ñòàëè òþðêàìè ïî ÿçûêó è õðèñòèàíàìè ïî âåðå
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Íàâåðõ   ## 18 ôåâðàëÿ 2014 0:22
Í-äà-à, äî ãîòîâ ìíå åùå 16 âåêîâ êîïàòü.
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Íàâåðõ   ## 19 ìàðòà 2014 0:40 19 ìàðòà 2014 0:41
Âîò, ÷òî íàïèñàë Ã-í ÌàêñÄîíàëä ïî ïîâîäó àóòîñîì ïàïû:

Most likely fit is 80.1% (+- 2.3%) Europe (various subcontinents)
and 19.9% (+- 2.3%) Mideast (various subcontinents)

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Irish= 0.808 Armenian= 0.192 or
Irish= 0.782 Turkish= 0.218 or
Irish= 0.794 Georgian= 0.206 or
Poland= 0.757 Turkish= 0.243 or
Poland= 0.786 Armenian= 0.214 or
Germany= 0.789 Adygei= 0.211 or
Germany= 0.845 Iranian= 0.155 or
English= 0.811 Adygei= 0.189 or
Irish= 0.819 Iranian= 0.181 or
Germany= 0.815 Turkish= 0.185

Which does not look like “Russia and Ukraine” on the surface.

A custom fit says:


Belorus 0.7636 Cypriot 0.2364 or
Sicily 0.2765 Belorus 0.7235 or
Romania 0.4760 Belorus 0.5240 or
Lithuania 0.6809 Cypriot 0.3191 or
Sicily 0.3672 Lithuania 0.6328 or
Belorus 0.7832 Armenian 0.2168 or
Romania 0.5822 Lithuania 0.4178

which does not either. BUT ... its a perfectly OK
fit to plain (western) Ukraine, or a mix of Ukraine/Russian/Polish.

Doug McDonald
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