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Òðèíà Ñòðàäåð â äåâè÷åñòâå ðîäèëàñü â 1888 ãîäó â ã. Ðèãà. Æèëà â öåíòðå ãîðîäà.
 íà÷àëå 1906 ïîïûòàëàñü ñ ïîäðóãàìè îòïðàâèòüñÿ íà ïàðîõîäå â Êàíàäó. Íî ìàìà íå îòïóñòèëà. Òîãäà Òðèíà ïîåõàëà ïî æ.ä íà Äàëüíèé Âîñòîê, ÷òîáû òàì ïåðåïðàâèòüñÿ â Àìåðèêó.. Íî ïî ïóòè âëþáèëàñü è âûøëà çàìóæ â Òîìñêå çà Ïàâëà Ëóêè÷à Èâàíîâà, êîòîðûé âîçâðàùàëñÿ èç ïëåíà ÿïîíöåâ. Ïðåäïîëîæèòåëüíî ýòî áûëî â 1906ã., êîãäà ê íà÷àëó ôåâðàëÿ 1906 ã. â Ðîññèþ íà ïÿòè ñóäàõ Äîáðîôëîòà èç ïëåíà âåðíóëèñü 10 ãåíåðàëîâ, 2 àäìèðàëà, 1 066 îôèöåðîâ, 51 330 ñîëäàò è 8 783 ìàòðîñà.  ñåðåäèíå ôåâðàëÿ 1906 ãîäà â Ðîññèþ áûëè îòïðàâëåíû ïîñëåäíèå ïëåííûå.
Ñâàäüáà ñîñòîÿëàñü â Òîìñêå. ïðåäïîëîæèòåëüíî îí áûë äâîðÿíèí, òàê êàê âïîñëåäñòâèè çàíÿë âûñîêóþ äîëæíîñòü â ãîðîäå. À Òðèíà Ñòðàäåð àêòèâíî ó÷àñòâîâàëà âïîñëåäñòâèè â îðãàíèçàöèè ïîìîùè ðàíåíûì. Ñîõðàíèëèñü 3 ôîòîãðàôèè:
1. ôîòî: ïðåäïîëîæèòåëüíî 1906ã. - ñâàäåáíàÿ â Òîìñêå. Â 1914 èëè 1915 ïåðååõàëè â Êàèíñê.
2. ôîòî - äî 1917ã. ñ íåèçâåñòíîé æåíùèíîé (â öåíòðå, â ïàïàõå). Òðèíà Ñòðàäåð - ñïðàâà. Ïàâåë Ëóêè÷ -ñïðàâà â ïàïàõå â ïîãîíàõ.
3. ôîòî Òðèíû Ñòðàäåð -ñîâìåñòíîå ôîòî îáùåñòâà ïîìîùíèö ðàíåíûì. Íå çíàþ êàê òî÷íî íàçûâàåòñÿ.Áóäó âûÿñíÿòü.

Ïàâåë Ëóêè÷ áûë ðàññòðåëÿí 5 ñåíòÿáðÿ 1920ã. â Òîìñêå áîëüøåâèêàìè ïîñëå çàíÿòèÿ èìè ãîðîäà, à åãî äðóã, âëàäåëåö ìàãàçèíîâ íà öåíòðàëüíîé óëèöå Òîìñêà óñïåë óåõàòü â Àìåðèêó (â Êàíàäó?).

Òðèíà Ñòðàäåðóìåðëà â 1960ã â ã.Ïðîêîïüåâñê, Êåìåðîâñêîé îáëàñòè.

Èíòåðåñíî óçíàòü ñóäüáó ðîäñòâåííèêîâ è ïîîáùàòüñÿ. Ïðåäïîëàãàþ, ÷òî Ñòðàäåð ñêîðåå íåìåöêàÿ ôàìèëèÿ. Ìîãó îøèáàòüñÿ - íå çíàòîê.

Trina Strader in girlhood was born in Riga. Lived in the downtown. In 1903 or 1904 tried to go with girlfriends by steamship to Canada. But mother did not release. Then Trina went on the traine to the Far East there to be transported to America. But on the way fell in love and married Pavel Lucic Ivanov who came back from captivity of Japanese. Allegedly it was in 1906 when by the beginning of February, 1906 10 generals, 2 admirals, 1 066 officers, 51 330 soldiers and 8 783 sailors returned to Russia in five courts of Dobroflot from captivity. In the middle of February, 1906 the last prisoners were sent to Russia. The wedding took place in Tomsk. allegedly he was the nobleman as subsequently held a high position in the city. And Tryna Strader actively participated in the organization of the help of wounded subsequently. 3 photos remained:
1. photo: allegedly 1906 - wedding in Tomsk.
2. a photo - till 1917 with the unknown woman (in the center, in a papakha). Trina Strader - on the right. Pavel Lucic - on the right in a papakha in shoulder straps.
3. Trina Strader's photo - a joint photo of society of assistants the wounded. I do not know as precisely is called.
Pavel Lucic was shot by Bolsheviks after occupation of the city by them and its friend, the owner of shops on the central street of Tomsk managed to go to America (to Canada?).
Trina Strader died in 1960 to Prokopyevsk, the Kemerovo region.
It is interesting to learn destiny of relatives and to communicate. I assume that Strader rather German surname. I can be mistaken - not the expert.

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Èâàíîâ Ïàâåë Ëóêè÷, íå èìåþù. ÷èíà, ïîì. äåëîïðîèçâ. òþðåìí. îòä. Êàíöåëÿðèè Òîìñê. ãóá. óïðàâë. (1908). Âðåì. èñï. äîëæí. íà÷. Êàèí. òþðåì. çàìêà (1913-1915). Íà÷. òþðüìû ã. Êàèíñêà (1918). Ðàññòð. 1 ñåí. 1920 â ã. Òîìñê. Ñì. ãàç. «Çíàìÿ ðåâîëþöèè» ¹ 188 îò 5 ñåí. 1920

Èâàíîâ Ïàâåë Ëóêè÷. Íà÷àëüíèê Êàèíñêîé òþðüìû. Äåëî î ñëóæáå ñ 1918 ïî 23 èþëÿ 1919. ÃÀÐÔ, ô. Ð827, îï. 1, ä. 219.
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