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Demesha Latvija, Jurmala Ñîîáùåíèé: 596 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2003 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 132 | Íàâåðõ ##
4 èþëÿ 2003 3:43 Ñïàñèáî! Ýòî âòîðàÿ ïåðñîíà, íîñÿùàÿ ýòó ôàìèëèþ. Ïåðâóþ âûäà¸ò ßíäåêñ - Ìàðèÿ Ñèáåðèíà (óâû, íàéòè å¸ íå óäàëîñü).... Andko, ìîæåò áûòü ïîäñêàæåòå, åñòü ëè âîçìîæíîñòü ïî óêàçàííîìó Âàìè íîìåðó òåëåôîíà óçíàòü àäðåñ (äîì, êâàðòèðà, èíäåêñ) - äàáû íàïèñàòü ïèñüìî, ò.ê. áîþñü, òåëåôîííîãî ðàçãîâîðà ìîæåò áûòü ìàëî - íå âñåãäà ñõîäó ëþäè ìîãóò îòâåòèòü "êòî åñòü êòî" äàëüøå 3-ãî ïîêîëåíèÿ.... è ê ñîæàëåíèþ, ñëèøêîì äîðîãî èç Ëàòâèè çâîíèòü â ÐÎññèþ, óâû:-( åùå ðàç - ñïàñèáî! --- Ëàòâèÿ, Þðìàëà Èùó ðîäíþ Äîáðîâîëüñêèå, Äìèòðèåâû, Çàõàðîâû, Ñèáåðèíû, Ñîëîâüåâû, Ãóñåâû, Ãîëóáåâû, Ãðèøèíû, Ëàâðèùåâû, Êðóòîâû, Âàñèëüåâû, Äóíäóêîâû - Ìîñêâà, Ïèòåð, Ïñêîâñêàÿ, Òâåðñêàÿ, ßðîñëàâñêàÿ îáë. Äåäåëèñ ( ñ âàðèàíòàìè) òîæå èùó - | | |
AndkoÏàðàëëåëüíûé ìèíåðàëèñèìóñ  ã. ßðîñëàâëü Ñîîáùåíèé: 735 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2003 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 171 | Íàâåðõ ##
4 èþëÿ 2003 12:39 Òåëåôîííûé ñïðàâî÷íèê äîìîâ è êâàðòèð íå óêàçûâàåò. Òàê ÷òî ïðèäåòñÿ çâîíèòü... Óäà÷è! --- Àíäðåé,
÷ëåí Ïðàâëåíèÿ Ñîþçà Âîçðîæäåíèÿ Ðîäîñëîâíûõ Òðàäèöèé,
÷ëåí ßðîñëàâñêîãî èñòîðèêî-ðîäîñëîâíîãî îáùåñòâà,
ãëàâíûé ðåäàêòîð ãàçåòû "Ïàìÿòü ðîäà". | | |
Erla Ñîîáùåíèé: 767 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2004 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 563 | Íàâåðõ ##
4 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2003 11:09 Åñëè ïðåäïîëîæèòü, ÷òî ôàìèëèÿ Ñèáåðèí - ýòî îáðóñåâøàÿ íåìåöêàÿ ôàìèëèÿ Sieber, òî ìîæíî íàéòè ìíîãî èíòåðåñíîãî, êàê íàïðèìåð: íà http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bonitz/p2v.htmAnna SIEBER Father: Jacob SIEBER Mother: Maria BONITZ Birth: 22 JUL 1662, Kühnhaide (Zwönitz), Sachsen Death: ABT 1701, Kühnhaide (Zwönitz), Sachsen
Spouse: Tobias BONITZ Marriage: 19 NOV 1688, Zwönitz, Sachsen
Child: Gottfriedt BONITZ Birth: 19 FEB 1697, Kühnhaide (Zwönitz), Sachsen Ancestors of Anna SIEBER /-Georg SIEBER /-Jacob SIEBER | \-Sybylla HAYN Anna SIEBER | /-Michel PONITZ | /-Peter PONITZ | | \-Catharina NN \-Maria BONITZ | /-Salomon GÖDEL \-Maria GÖDEL \-Magdalena GÖDELL Descendants of Anna SIEBER 1 Anna SIEBER =Tobias BONITZ Marriage: 19 NOV 1688, Zwönitz, Sachsen 2 Gottfriedt BONITZ =Johanna Rebecca UNGER Marriage: 22 NOV 1729, Zwönitz, Sachsen 3 Christian Gottfried BONITZ =Hanna HÖFER Marriage: 1 MAY 1757, Zwönitz, Sachsen 4 Johanna Rosina BONITZ =Carl Heinrich HAUK Marriage: 25 NOV 1792, Zwönitz, Sachsen 5 Johanne Christiane HAUCK =Imanuel VOGEL Marriage: 26 MAY 1816, Zwönitz, Sachsen 6 Christiane Sophie VOGEL èëè íà http://www.makie.de/KIENING/B5/B5666.HTM Sieber Josef um 1781 S.d. Siber Josef Walpertshofen 24 (Liendl) und Kratzl Walburga * 18.10.1749 Walpertshofen + um 1818 Pellheim I. oo 11.02.1781 Pellheim Sedlmayr Magdalena T.d. Sedlmayr Franz Pellheim 15 (Stelzl) und Neumayer Anna * 18.07.1751 Pellheim + 10.02.1823 Pellheim K i n d e r : Sieber Matthias * 14.09.1776 Pellheim + 01.10.1776 Pellheim
Sieber Johann * 16.04.1780 Pellheim + vor 1781 Pellheim Sieber Johann * 09.12.1781 Pellheim + 25.04.1850 Pellheim wird hier Besitzer Sieber Thomas * 15.12.1783 Pellheim + 19.12.1783 Pellheim Sieber Maria * 11.12.1788 Pellheim + 15.12.1788 Pellheim Sieber Anna * 01.08.1790 Pellheim + 05.08.1790 Pellheim Sieber Maria * 11.02.1793 Pellheim + ungef.1794 Pellheim
--- Âñå äàííûå î ìîèõ ïðåäêàõ ðàçìåùåíû ìíîþ íà ñàéòå äîáðîâîëüíî äëÿ âîññòàíîâëåíèÿ ðîäîñëîâíîé.
Åðåìèíû, Àâòîìîíîâû, Äüÿêîâû, Ìàñþòèíû, Ñîíèíû, Ïîïîâû, Èåâëåâû, Ðèêìàíû, Êèðèëëîâû (Òóëüñêàÿ ãóáåðíèÿ); Ñàëüíèêîâû, (Ìîñêîâñêàÿ ãóá.); Áàëôåòêèíû (Òâåðñêàÿ ãóá | | |
Demesha Latvija, Jurmala Ñîîáùåíèé: 596 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2003 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 132 | Íàâåðõ ##
4 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2003 13:47 Erla Óïñ... Ìäà, íåìöû ñëàâÿòñÿ ñâîèìè ãåíåàëîãè÷åñêèìè ðîñïèñÿìè, î÷åðåäíîé ðàç óáåæäàþñü... ÍÎ, àõ! è óâû!, òàê ãëóáîêî ìîèõ íå óäà¸òñÿ îòñëåäèòü.... çíàþ òîëüêî äàòó ðîæäåíèÿ 1884 ãîä è ìåñòî - ä.Òàðóñèíî, ßðîñëàâñêîé îáëàñòè.. Ñïàñèáî, Ýðëà, çà çàáîòó, íî ìíå äî âàøåãî ìàòåðèàëà, çäåñü èçëîæåííîãî, íå õâàòàåò ïðèìåðíî ñòîëåòèÿ... À ýòî ñëèøêîì ìíîãî, êàê ìèíèìóì 2-3 ïîêîëåíèÿ, ÷òîáû ìîæíî áûëî îòñëåäèòü ñâÿçü... Óâû. Åùå ðàç ñïàñèáî. (Ñîîáùåíèå îòðåäàêòèðîâàë Demesha 24 îêò. 2003 10:54) --- Ëàòâèÿ, Þðìàëà Èùó ðîäíþ Äîáðîâîëüñêèå, Äìèòðèåâû, Çàõàðîâû, Ñèáåðèíû, Ñîëîâüåâû, Ãóñåâû, Ãîëóáåâû, Ãðèøèíû, Ëàâðèùåâû, Êðóòîâû, Âàñèëüåâû, Äóíäóêîâû - Ìîñêâà, Ïèòåð, Ïñêîâñêàÿ, Òâåðñêàÿ, ßðîñëàâñêàÿ îáë. Äåäåëèñ ( ñ âàðèàíòàìè) òîæå èùó - | | |
Erla Ñîîáùåíèé: 767 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2004 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 563 | Íàâåðõ ##
4 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2003 14:15 ×åì ìîæåì, òåì è ïîìîæåì.  Ýòî ÿ êàê ïðèìåð âçÿëà, ÷òî ôàìèëèÿ ìîãëà èçíà÷àëüíî áûòü íåìåöêîé. Ñèáåðèí Îñèï (Èîñèô) ìîã áûòü âíà÷àëå Sieber Josef. Êîíå÷íî ýòî ïðåäïîëîæåíèå. Íó, à êîðíè ïðåäêîâ íàäî èñêàòü â ìåòðè÷åñêèõ êíèãàõ, â ïåðåïèñÿõ è ò.ä. Ýòî âû è áåç ìåíÿ ëó÷øå çíàåòå. Âû âåäü óæå ïîëó÷àëè ïîêîëåííûå ðîñïèñè îòêóäà-òî, åñëè ÿ íå îøèáàþñü. (Ñîîáùåíèå îòðåäàêòèðîâàë Erla 4 ñåí. 2003 14:15)
(Ñîîáùåíèå îòðåäàêòèðîâàë Erla 4 ñåí. 2003 17:21) --- Âñå äàííûå î ìîèõ ïðåäêàõ ðàçìåùåíû ìíîþ íà ñàéòå äîáðîâîëüíî äëÿ âîññòàíîâëåíèÿ ðîäîñëîâíîé.
Åðåìèíû, Àâòîìîíîâû, Äüÿêîâû, Ìàñþòèíû, Ñîíèíû, Ïîïîâû, Èåâëåâû, Ðèêìàíû, Êèðèëëîâû (Òóëüñêàÿ ãóáåðíèÿ); Ñàëüíèêîâû, (Ìîñêîâñêàÿ ãóá.); Áàëôåòêèíû (Òâåðñêàÿ ãóá | | |
Demesha Latvija, Jurmala Ñîîáùåíèé: 596 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2003 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 132 | Íàâåðõ ##
5 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2003 12:25 Erla Ïî Ñèáåðèíûì åù¸ íåò... Ìîë÷èò ïîêà ßðîñëàâñêèé àðõèâ. Áóì íàäåÿòüñÿ íà êîãäàòîøíèé îòâåò --- Ëàòâèÿ, Þðìàëà Èùó ðîäíþ Äîáðîâîëüñêèå, Äìèòðèåâû, Çàõàðîâû, Ñèáåðèíû, Ñîëîâüåâû, Ãóñåâû, Ãîëóáåâû, Ãðèøèíû, Ëàâðèùåâû, Êðóòîâû, Âàñèëüåâû, Äóíäóêîâû - Ìîñêâà, Ïèòåð, Ïñêîâñêàÿ, Òâåðñêàÿ, ßðîñëàâñêàÿ îáë. Äåäåëèñ ( ñ âàðèàíòàìè) òîæå èùó - | | |
| Schmitya Íîâè÷îê Ïðåçèäåíò
Ñîîáùåíèé: 35 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2003 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 3 | Íàâåðõ ##
6 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2003 2:02 Demesha âàì íå ïîâåçëî, à ìíå êàæåòñÿ íà÷èíàåò.....  ! Erla  âàøåé ññûëî÷êå ÿ íàøåë ôàìèëèè èç ìîåãî (ïîêà åùå ìàëåíüêîãî) äåðåâöà! Øðåäåð - ôàìèëèÿ ìîåãî îáðóñåâøåãî ïðàäåäà!!! Óíãåð - ôàìèëèÿ äâóõ ðîäíûõ áðàòüåâ æåíèâøèõñÿ íà äâóõ ðîäíûõ ñåñòðàõ ìîåé ïðàáàáóøêè (êàæûñü...òàê!) À âîò Sieber (÷òî â ïåðåâîäå íà ðóññêèé Çèáåð) Ó ñåñòðû ìîåé áàáóøêè - ìóæ ÇèáåðÒ! (ýòî íàâåðíîå òîæå èç-çà îáðóñåíèÿ ñëó÷èëîñü!?) Ñòûêîâêà ïîêà íå âîçìîæíà - ò.ê. ÿ çíàþ î èõ îáðóñåíèè òîëüêî òî, ÷òî îíî ñëó÷èëîñü â 1789 ãîäó, à åùå òî, ÷òî êîðíè èõ óõîäÿò (ïî÷åìó-òî!) â Ãîëëàíäèþ! Erla Ñïàñèáîî!!! Îäíèì ñëîâîì ññûëî÷êà èíòåðåñíàÿ........, òîëüêî êàê åé ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ ÿ åùå íå â ïîëíå ðàçîáðàëñÿ, îòêóäà îíà ó âàñ? :
(Ñîîáùåíèå îòðåäàêòèðîâàë Schmitya 6 ñåí. 2003 2:11) | | |
Erla Ñîîáùåíèé: 767 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2004 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 563 | Íàâåðõ ##
6 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2003 14:11 Schmitya îòâåò â ëè÷íûõ ñîîáùåíèÿõ --- Âñå äàííûå î ìîèõ ïðåäêàõ ðàçìåùåíû ìíîþ íà ñàéòå äîáðîâîëüíî äëÿ âîññòàíîâëåíèÿ ðîäîñëîâíîé.
Åðåìèíû, Àâòîìîíîâû, Äüÿêîâû, Ìàñþòèíû, Ñîíèíû, Ïîïîâû, Èåâëåâû, Ðèêìàíû, Êèðèëëîâû (Òóëüñêàÿ ãóáåðíèÿ); Ñàëüíèêîâû, (Ìîñêîâñêàÿ ãóá.); Áàëôåòêèíû (Òâåðñêàÿ ãóá | | |
Demesha Latvija, Jurmala Ñîîáùåíèé: 596 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2003 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 132 | Íàâåðõ ##
24 îêòÿáðÿ 2003 11:52 Âîò, ñîîáùàþ âñåì - Ñèáåðèíû - ÍÅ ïðîïàâøàÿ ôàìèëèÿ  Äà-äà, íàøëèñü ðîäñòâåííèêè, äààààëüíèå, â òîì æå ñëàâíîì ãîðîäå ßðîñëàâëå - ïîòîìêè áðàòüåâ ìîèõ Ñèáåðèíûõ!!! Ôàìèëèÿ ñîõðàíèëàñü, ïðîéäÿ ÷åðåç âåêà - ñ 1860 ãîäà, ïðèìåðíî Âñ¸-òàêè òåñåí ìèð è ýòî õîðîøî!  à åù¸ õîðîøî, ÷òî åñòü äîáðûå ëþäè! ÏÑ: íà÷èíàþ âåðèòü â òåîðèþ " î ïÿòè çâåíüÿõ"..  â äàííîì ñëó÷àå õâàòèëî îäíîãî çâåíà --- Ëàòâèÿ, Þðìàëà Èùó ðîäíþ Äîáðîâîëüñêèå, Äìèòðèåâû, Çàõàðîâû, Ñèáåðèíû, Ñîëîâüåâû, Ãóñåâû, Ãîëóáåâû, Ãðèøèíû, Ëàâðèùåâû, Êðóòîâû, Âàñèëüåâû, Äóíäóêîâû - Ìîñêâà, Ïèòåð, Ïñêîâñêàÿ, Òâåðñêàÿ, ßðîñëàâñêàÿ îáë. Äåäåëèñ ( ñ âàðèàíòàìè) òîæå èùó - | | |
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24 îêòÿáðÿ 2003 12:59 Ñèáåðèí Áîðèñ Àëåêñàíäðîâè÷ , 1916ã. ð. Óðîæåíåö ã.Âÿçüìà. ðóññêèé; á/ï. ãîðòåàòð, ýëåêòðîîñâåòèòåëü. Ìåñòî ïðîæèâàíèÿ: ã.Âÿçüìà. Àðåñòîâàí 29.09.37. Îñóæäåí 24.01.38 ÍÊÂÄ è Ïðîêóðîðà ÑÑÑÐ. Ñòàòüè îáâèíåíèÿ: 58-6,10,11. Ðàññòðåëÿí 13.04.38. http://www.memo.ru/memory/smolensk/smo_20-1.htmÂûøå ññûëêà --- Èùó èíôîðìàöèþ î ñâÿùåííèêàõ Êèåâñêîé ãóáåðíèè Ãàíèöêèõ, Êèñèëåâñêèõ.
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