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15 îêòÿáðÿ 2022 20:06 15 îêòÿáðÿ 2022 20:28 Äîáðûé âå÷åð, ïðîøó âàñ ñåðäå÷íî ìåíÿ ïðîñòèòü, ÷òî íåìíîãî íàâåðíîå íå â òåìó. Äåëî â òîì, ÷òî ÿ èùó ïðåäêà èç Ïîâîëæüÿ ñ íåìåöêèìè êîðíÿìè. ß ñäàëà ãåí òåñò, âåçäå â ðîäñòâåííèêàõ ó ìåíÿ âûøëè íåìöû(ôòäíà, ãåòìà÷, ãåíîòåê). Òàêæå êàê è â ýòíè÷åñêîì ïðîèñõîæäåíèè ó ìåíÿ âûðèñîâûâàþòñÿ íåìöû. Ìîè ïðåäêè ïî îòöó èç Ñàðàòîâñêîé ãóáåðíèè ïî ôàìèëèè Õèìåíêîâû ( Ôèìåíêîâû). Ïî ïîèñêó Õèìåíêîâûõ ãóãë âûäàë ìíå èç Ñàðàòîâà, Ñàáåëüôåëüä Âàëåíòèíó Íèêîëàåâíó. Ïîäñêàæèòå, ÷òî çíà÷èò âàðèàíòû ôàìèëèè? Õèìåíêîâà, ýòî ïî ìóæó èëè óæå áðàëè äëÿ ðóñèôèêàöèè? Ìîé ïðàäåä Õèìåíêîâ, ñîñòîÿë â ïàðòèè, íî ïîòîì áûë èñêëþ÷¸í èç çà òîãî, ÷òî íå ïðåäîñòàâèë ñïðàâêó î ñîöèàëüíîì ïðîèñõîæäåíèè ñâîåãî îòöà. ß åå çàêàçàëà, âðîäå åãî îòåö çàïèñàí êàê êðåñòüÿíèí, íî ôàìèëèÿ óæå Ôèìåíêîâ.Íå ïîäñêàæåòå, ìîãëè ëè íåìöû áðàòü ðóññêèå èìåíà è ôàìèëèè? Èëè æå îñòàâëÿëè ñâîè, ðîäíûå? Ìîæåò êòî òî çíàåò ÷òî î Ñàáåëüôåëüä Âàëåíòèíå Íèêîëàåâíå? Îòêóäà îíà è êàê ó íå¸ îêàçàëàñü ôàìèëèÿ Õèìåíêîâà? ß äàæå íå çíàþ ñ ÷åãî íà÷àòü ïîèñê.
Ïî ãåíîòåê ó ìåíÿ ðîäñòâåííèê èç Áðàíäåðáóðãà ñ ôàìèëèåé Ýéñëåð, âòîðîé ðîäñòâåííèê èç Âåíû ñ ôàìèëèåé Ñàñ. Íà ñàéòå ìàéòðó ó ìåíÿ èäåò äðåâíåå ñîâïàäåíèå 100% ñ îáðàçöàìè èç êðàêàóýð áåðã, Áðàíäåðáóðã.
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Íàçâàíèå ôîíäà ÎÁÙÈÅ ÑÎÁÐÀÍÈß È ÑÎÅÄÈÍÅÍÍÛÅ ÏÐÈÑÓÒÑÒÂÈß ÊÀÑÑÀÖÈÎÍÍÛÕ ÄÅÏÀÐÒÀÌÅÍÒÎÂ ÑÅÍÀÒÀ
Ðàçäåë îïèñè 1907 ã.
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Î ïðèâëå÷åíèè ê îòâåòñòâåííîñòè ÷ëåíîâ Ñàðàòîâñêîãî îêðóæíîãî ñóäà è ñóäåáíîé ïàëàòû çà íåïðàâèëüíûå äåéñòâèÿ ïðè ðàññìîòðåíèè äåëà Ñàáåëüôåëüä, Âèñìóò è Äåððå î ïðàâå âëàäåíèÿ çåìåëüíûì ó÷àñòêîì
Êðàéíèå äàòû 16 ìàðòà 1907 - 30 íîÿáðÿ 1908 ã. | | |
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26 ìàðòà 2023 0:26 12 ìàÿ 2022 ãîäà ïîáûâàëà â ãîðîäå Âåðõàéì èì Òàóíóñ, çåìëÿ Ãåññåí, Ãåðìàíèÿ ãäå ïðîæèâàë Àíäðåàñ Ñàáåëüôåëüä âî âðåìÿ ïðîõîæäåíèÿ êîíôèðìàöèè 28 ìàðòà 1728 ãîäà, åìó áûëî íà òîò ìîìåíò 12 ñ ïîëîâèíîé ëåò. Êîãäà îí æåíèëñÿ â ïåðâûé ðàç â Âèçáàäåíå, Ãåðìàíèÿ òî â äîêóìåíòå áûëî óêàçàíî, ÷òî îí áûë èç Âåðõàéìà (Wehrheim). Íàøëà, ÷òî åãî ïåðâûé ñûí îò ïåðâîé æåíû ðîäèëñÿ â Âèçáàäåíå,
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26 ìàðòà 2023 0:28 Kuni íàïèñàë: [q] 12 ìàÿ 2022 ãîäà ïîáûâàëà â ãîðîäå Âåðõàéì èì Òàóíóñ, çåìëÿ Ãåññåí, Ãåðìàíèÿ ãäå ïðîæèâàë Àíäðåàñ Ñàáåëüôåëüä âî âðåìÿ ïðîõîæäåíèÿ êîíôèðìàöèè 28 ìàðòà 1728 ãîäà, åìó áûëî íà òîò ìîìåíò 12 ñ ïîëîâèíîé ëåò. Êîãäà îí æåíèëñÿ â ïåðâûé ðàç â Âèçáàäåíå, Ãåðìàíèÿ òî â äîêóìåíòå áûëî óêàçàíî, ÷òî îí áûë èç Âåðõàéìà (Wehrheim). Íàøëà, ÷òî åãî ïåðâûé ñûí îò ïåðâîé æåíû ðîäèëñÿ â Âèçáàäåíå,[/q]
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Book "Heimatbuch der Deutschen aus Russland", 2005. Homeland Book of the GERMAN s from Russia, 2005
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19 ÿíâàðÿ 2024 20:30 Kriv íàïèñàë: [q] Çäðàâñòâóéòå! Óâèäåë çíàêîìóþ ôàìèëèþ è íå ìîã "ïðîéòè" ìèìî. Ñàáåëüôåëüä Àëåêñàíäð Àëåêñàíäðîâè÷, ðîäèëñÿ â 1952 ãîäó â ï.Íîâè÷èõà Àëòàéñêîãî êðàÿ, çàêîí÷èë Ñèáèðñêèé òåõíîëîãè÷åñêèé èíñòèòóò è ïî ðàñïðåäåëåíèþ áûë íàïðàâëåí â ï.Óñòü-Óäà. Ñåé÷àñ íà ïåíñèè.[/q]
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Âû ìîæåòå ñäåëàòü çàïðîñ â ÇÀÃÑ íà ñïðàâêó î áðàêå Àâãóñòû. Óçíàåòå åå íîâóþ ôàìèëèþ.
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Çàèíòåðåñîâàëàñü ïîèñêîì ïðåäêîâ.
Ìîé ïðàäåä Ñàáåëüôåëüä Èâàí (Sabelfeld Johan Fridrich) 1878 (Ìàðêñøòàäò) - 1934 (Ìàðêñøòàäò), æåíàò íà Ýëèçàáåò Ãèíòåð (Elisabet Ginter) 1877 (Ìàðêñøòàäò) - 1957 (Áîãîðîäèöê, Òóëüñêàÿ îáëàñòü).
Èõ äåòè:
Ôåäîð Ñàáåëüôåëüä (Fridrich) 1898 - 1980
Àëåêñàíäð (Alexander) 1902 - 1961
Ëèäèÿ 1906 - 1968
Èâàí (Johannes) 1909 - 1970 - ìîé äåäóøêà
Êàðë 1911 - 1997
Ýììà 1913-1989
Âî âðåìÿ âîéíû ïîïàëè â Êàçàõñòàí, Ïàâëîäàðñêàÿ îáëàñòü, ïîçæå â Òóëüñêóþ îáëàñòü, ã. Áîãîðîäèöê | | |
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