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Ìîãèë¸âñêàÿ îáë. ÐÁ Ýòà òåìà íà êàðòå: Êîâàëåâ Êîíñòàíòèí Âàñèëüåâè÷ (?) æåíà Äîìíà Âàñèëüåâíà
Êîâàëåâ Ïðîêîïèé Âàñ
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30 îêòÿáðÿ 2012 11:19ïîèñê ïðåäêîâ è ðîäñòâåííèêîâ Êîâàë¸â Àáðàì Ôàääååâè÷ 1898ã.ð. ×åðíèãâñêàÿ îáëàñòü Äîáðÿíñêèé ð-îí ñ.Äîáðÿíêà .Èùåì ðîäñòâåííèêîâ. --- èùó ðîäñâåííèêîâ | | |
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30 îêòÿáðÿ 2012 11:39 koshelkov
Ðàäà âèäåòü îäíîôàìèëüöà. Íà êàêîé ñòàäèè âàøèõ ïîèñêîâ Âû íàõîäèòåñü? Àíàëèçèðîâàëè ëè äàííûå ÎÁÄ "Ìåìîðèàë"? Ïî Êîâàëåâûì ýòî, êîíå÷íî, íåïðîñòî... --- Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
Êëûøêèí Âëàñåíêî Ñàêóíîâ Êó÷åðÿâåíêî (Ãëóõîâ)
Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.) | | |
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1 íîÿáðÿ 2012 21:01 Ìû íàøëè ìîãèëó äåäà è ïîñëåäíé äîêóìåíò ñ çàïèñüþ î åãî ðàíåíèè è âïîñëåäñòâèè ñìåðòè.Âîò ïîêà è âñ¸. ß çíàþ,÷òî Êîâàë¸â ôàìèëèÿ ðàñïðîñòðàí¸ííàÿ íî èìÿ Àáðàì äà¸ò íàäåæäó íà ïîëîæèòåëüíûé ðåçóëüòàò.Ïîêà íè î ðîäñòâåííèêàõ íè î í¸ì ñàìîì,êòî îí,êòî åãî ðîäèòåëè,ãäå åãî ñåñòðà èëè áðàò ìû íè÷åãî íå çíàåì. Íàäåþñü ,÷òî âñêîðå íàéä¸ì. Ñïàñèáî çà ó÷àñòèå,æåëàþ âàì óäà÷è. --- èùó ðîäñâåííèêîâ | | |
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1 íîÿáðÿ 2012 21:10 1 íîÿáðÿ 2012 21:12 Òîãäà Âàì ìîæíî: 1. îòìåòèòüñÿ â ýòîé òåìå - è ïî÷èòàòü åå, âäðóã êòî-òî óæå èùåò êîãî-òî â òåõ êðàÿõ? 2. åñëè åñòü êàêèå-òî âîïðîñû ïî öåðêâàì è ïðèõîäàì, çàäàòü èõ çäåñü3. ïî÷èòàòü òåìó ïî ÄÀ×Î, ïðè íåîáõîäèìîñòè çàäàòü âîïðîñû î íàëè÷èè ìåòðèê, ðåâèçèé, èñïîâåäîê è ò.ï. Êñòàòè, îíè ìîãóò áûòü è ó ìîðìîíîâ Ñîáñòâåííî, êîãäà ÿ ãîâîðèëà îá àíàëèçå äàííûõ, ÿ èìåëà â âèäó, ÷òî â èäåàëå ñëåäîâàëî áû ïîèñêàòü íà ÎÁÄ "Ìåìîðèàë" ÂÑÅÕ Êîâàëåâûõ èç Âàøåãî ñåëà, ïîñêîëüêó âñå îíè ìîãóò áûòü Âàøåé ðîäíåé. Óñïåõîâ! --- Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
Êëûøêèí Âëàñåíêî Ñàêóíîâ Êó÷åðÿâåíêî (Ãëóõîâ)
Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.) | | |
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22 ÿíâàðÿ 2013 16:44 Òàòüÿíà Åâãåíüåâíà, áîëüøîå ñïàñèáî! --- Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
Êëûøêèí Âëàñåíêî Ñàêóíîâ Êó÷åðÿâåíêî (Ãëóõîâ)
Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.) | | |
| kbg_dnepr Äíèïðî (áûâø. Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê) Ñîîáùåíèé: 7047 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 4362
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22 ÿíâàðÿ 2013 18:16 22 ÿíâàðÿ 2013 18:17 The History of Slavs Inferred from Complete Mitochondrial Genome Sequences Marta Mielnik-Sikorska, Patrycja Daca, Boris Malyarchuk, Miroslava Derenko, Katarzyna Skonieczna, Maria Perkova, Tadeusz Dobosz ... http://www.plosone.org/article...ne.0054360 The third most common in Europe and the least studied is haplogroup H5. This subclade reaches maximal frequencies in Southern Europe (4–6%), but is virtually absent in the Middle East [25], [27]–[29]. In Slavic populations, H5 is observed at frequencies from 3.2% in Ukraine to 2.5% in Poland, Russia, Czech Republic and Slovakia ([14]–[23] ( à ãäå Áåëîðóññèÿ?!) and data presented in this study). Due to the higher occurrence of H5 in southern European populations and evolutionary age of ca. 16 ky, which coincides with the period of increased migration from southern to northern parts of Europe after the LGM, the reconstruction of its H5 phylogeny could provide an important information on relatively recent processes that took place in the history of European continent. It is also worth noting that some clusters of H5, like H5a could have been of central European origin [14], [24], [27], [30], [31]. Thus, one may assume that phylogenetic reconstruction of H5 together with the information on the geographical distribution of haplotypes belonging to this clade could be helpful in evaluating the origin of Slavs. Ýòî ãã ìîåé áåëîðóññêîé ïðàáàáêè Àêèëèíû Èâàíîâíû (ïî ìóæó Êîâàëåâîé) èç ä. Øàáëè Êëèìîâèöêîãî ó. (ñîâð. Êîñòþêîâè÷ñêèé ð-í) Ìîãèëåâñêîé îáë. Æàëü, ÷òî äàëüøå íåå (îíà ðîäèëàñü îê. 1860 ã.) ÿ íèêîãî íå çíàþ... --- Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
Êëûøêèí Âëàñåíêî Ñàêóíîâ Êó÷åðÿâåíêî (Ãëóõîâ)
Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.) | | |
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16 ìàðòà 2013 14:50 Ìîé ïðåäîê Êîâàëåâ Ñåìåí Âàñèëüåâè÷ ñî ñâîèìè äåòüìè Ôåäîñååì, Àíäðååì è Àëåêñàíäðîé (ìîÿ ïðàáàáóøêà) ïðèøëè èç Áåëîðóññèè, òî÷íî íå çíàþ îòêóäà, íî ïî ðàññêàçàì èç Ãîìåëüñêîé ãóáåðíèè èëè óåçäà. À ïðèøëè îíè â Íîâîñèáèðñêóþ îáë. Êûøòîâñêèé ð-í ä. Àïòóðàê --- Áó(ë)ãàêîâû, Êà(î)øèíñêèå, Òåðÿåâû, Êðàâöîâû, Êîâàëåâû, Àðòåìåíêî, Øà(å)áàøåâû, Õðûêèíû, Ïàâëîâû, Ãëóøêîâû, Òåëåãèíû, Ëóïàíîâû, Ìåùåðÿêîâû, Àðòàìîíîâû, Èâàíîâû, Áàðàíîâû, Âîðîïàåâû, Àäðèàíîâû, Øèëîâû. | | |
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5 àâãóñòà 2013 17:13 5 àâãóñòà 2013 17:14 Ïîõîæå, â Øàáëÿõ ìîè Êîâàëåâû òàêè ïðèøëûå...  Íó ÷òî äåëàòü ñ êî÷åâûìè ïðåäêàìè?! Ñíà÷àëà ìàìèíûõ Îãëîòêîâûõ èñêàëà ïî âñåé îêðóãå âîçëå Äóõîâíèöêîãî, à íàøëà è âîâñå â Ãîðáàòîâñêîì óåçäå Íèæåãîðîäñêîé ãóáåðíèè, òåïåðü âîò îòöîâñêèå Êîâàëåâû íèêàê íå äàþòñÿ Ïðàâäà, ìíå ãðåõ æàëîâàòüñÿ - îòöîâñêèõ æå Ãëóøàêîâ ÿ ñìîãëà ïðîñëåäèòü â Øèðÿåâêå-Ãîðäååâêå äî 1755 ã. Îïÿòü æå, òóäà îíè ïðèøëè "ñ Ïîëøè" â 1743 ã. è ýòî, ïîõîæå, óæå âñå, ãäå èõ èñêàòü â Ïîîëüøå (òî áèøü Áåëîðóññèè) - Áîã âåñòü. Âîçâðàùàÿñü ê Êîâàëåâûì: ïîêà ïîíÿòíî, ÷òî â êîíöå Õ1Õ â. Ïðîêîôèé Ãðèãîðüåâè÷ Êîâàëåâ ñ æåíîé Àêèëèíîé Èâàíîâíîé æèâóò â Øàáëÿõ: â 1885 ã. ó íèõ çäåñü ðîæäàåòñÿ ñûí Çàõàð, â 1894 ã. Ïà ñóäèòñÿ ñ ñåëüñêèì îáùåñòâîì çà çåìëþ, ðàññêàçûâàÿ â ïðîøåíèè, ÷òî "ëåò 5 íàçàä ñåëüñêîå îáùåñòâî êóïèëî çåìëþ ó ïîìåùèêà Ãîëûíñêîãî" (ÍÈÀÁ ô. 2014 "Ìîãèëåâñêîå ãóáåðíñêîå ïðèñóòñòâèå" îï. 1 ä. ¹ 1155 "Ïî æàëîáå êðåñòüÿíèíà Êëèìîâè÷ñêîãî óåçäà Ìîøåâñêîé âîëîñòè äåðåâíè Øàáåëü Ïðîêîôèÿ Ãðèãîðüåâè÷à Êîâàë¸âà íà íåïðàâèëüíîå (ïîñòàíîâëåíèå) óòâåðæäåíèå Êëèìîâè÷ñêèì óåçäíûì ïî êðåñòüÿíñêèì äåëàì ïðèñóòñòâèåì ïðèãîâîðà Øàáåëüñêîãî Ñåëüñêîãî Ñõîäà î ïåðåäåëå çåìëè, êóïëåííîé èì ó ïîìåùèêà Ãîëûíñêîãî" (íà÷. 26.10.1894 ã., êîí÷åíî 8.05.1896 ã.))Íî â 10-é ðåâèçèè â Ùàáëÿõ íåò Ãðèãîðèÿ ñ ñûíîì Ïðîêîôèåì (êàê, âïðî÷åì, è Èâàíà ñ äî÷åðüþ Àêèëèíîé).  1858 ã. â äåðåâíå 37 äîìîõîçÿåâ (ïî âûêóïíîìó äåëó 26), à â äåëå 1894 ã. - óæå òîëüêî 16. Ïîõîæå, ÷òî ïîñëå îñâîáîæäåíèÿ ñîñòàâ æèòåëåé äåðåâíè ñèëüíî ïîìåíÿëñÿ. È ãäå ìíå òåïåðü èñêàòü ñïèñêè æèòåëåé Øàáåëü â ýòîì äîñòàòî÷íî áîëüøîì ïðîìåæóòêå? Êàêèå-òî ðåêðóòñêèå ñïèñêè? Åùå ÷òî-íèáóäü âîåííîå (ïî ñëó÷àþ ââåäåíèÿ âîèíñêîé ïîâèííîñòè)? ÍÈÀÁ ïî ìíå ïëà÷åò --- Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
Êëûøêèí Âëàñåíêî Ñàêóíîâ Êó÷åðÿâåíêî (Ãëóõîâ)
Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.) | | |
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8 àâãóñòà 2013 23:01 Åêàòåðèíà, â îïèñè ô. 2209 http://fk.archives.gov.by/fond/81543/ åñòü ëþáîïûòíîå äëÿ âàñ äåëî 2209 - 1 - 32 çà 04.11.1867 î "ïîëþáîâíîì ñîãëàøåíèè íà ðàçìåæåâàíèå äà÷è Ìîêðîå, Âèøåíüêè, Øàáåëè Êëèìîâè÷ñêîãî óåçäà â ÷àñòè äà÷è ìåñòå÷êà Õîòèìñê." Íàäåþñü, ïî ðåçóëüòàòàì åãî ïðîñìîòðà êàðòèíà ïî âàøèì Êîâàë¸âûì íåìíîãî ïðîÿñíèòüñÿ --- Respect the Past. Create the Future.
Êîììåð÷åñêîé ãåíåàëîãèåé íå çàíèìàþñü è íà âîïðîñû â ëè÷êó ïî ýòîé òåìàòèêå íå îòâå÷àþ
Àêòóàëüíûé ïîèñê:
Ìîë÷àíû (äåð. Ëÿäû. Ñìèëîâè÷ñêàÿ âîë.);
Æóêè (äåð. Æóêè, Êîðåëè÷ñêàÿ âîë.);
ñåëî Âåðõíÿÿ Ñûðîâàòêà, Ñóìñêèé óåçä | | |
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9 àâãóñòà 2013 10:10 9 àâãóñòà 2013 10:11 Óðà!!! Õîòèìñê ïîáëèçîñòè!!  Äåëî â òîì, ÷òî ïî ñåìåéíîé èíôîðìàöèè Êîâàëåâû - ôàìèëèÿ íåäàâíÿÿ, êòî áûëè äî òîãî - íå èçâåñòíî. Ñóùåñòâóþò äâå âåðñèè: Ôåäîñåíêî è Åëåíñêèå èç Õîòèìñêà. Èâàí, ñïàñèáî Âàì áîëüøîå! --- Êàòåðèíà
Ãëóøàê (Áðÿíñê.) Êîâàëåâ, Ôåäîñåíêî (Ìîãèëåâñê.)
Îãëîòêîâ (Ãîðáàò. ó. ÍÃÃ) Àëüêèí Æàðêîâ Êóëüäèøîâ Áàëàíäèí (Ñèìá. ãóá.)
Êëûøêèí Âëàñåíêî Ñàêóíîâ Êó÷åðÿâåíêî (Ãëóõîâ)
Êèðè÷åíêî Áîíäàðåíêî Áåëîóñ Ñòðàøíûé (Íîâîìîñê. Äíåïðîï.) | | |
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