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21 äåêàáðÿ 2015 18:44 Äðèáèíñêàÿ (Êàðëèíñêàÿ) Ìàðèÿ Ñîëîìîíîâíà (Øóëåìîâíà), ðàññòðåëÿíà ôàøèñòàìè âî âðåìÿ Âåëèêîé Îòå÷åñòâåííîé âîéíû â ã. Ïîëòàâà, ñóïðóã Êàðëèíñêèé Èîñèô Ìîèñååâè÷ 1880 ã/ð. Èùó Äðèáèíñêèõ èç Ïîëòàâû. | | |
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27 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2020 10:49 Âñåì äîáðûé äåíü. ß âèæó, ÷òî òåìà î÷åíü ñòàðàÿ, íî âäðóã êòî-òî ñêâîçü ëåòà ñþäà çàáðåäåò. Èòàê, ìîè ââîäíûå: Îñíîâíîé àðåàë îáèòàíèÿ "ìîèõ Êàðëèíñêèõ" íàõîäèëñÿ â Ãîðíîñòàéïîëå (Êèåâñêàÿ îáë.), ×åðíîáûëå, Ëåíèíãðàäå è Àëòàéñêîì êðàå (ýâàêóàöèÿ íà âðåìÿ áëîêàäû Ëåíèíãðàäà (ßíêåëü, ñûí Ìèõåëü)). Èìåíà, êîòîðûå âñòðå÷àþòñÿ â ìîåì äðåâå: Àéçèê(Èñààê), Ìèõåëü(Ìèõàèë), ßíêåëü(ßêîâ), Øëåìà, Øìóëü, Àðîí-Õàèì, Ãåðøêî, Áåðë, Áîðóõ, Ìîðäóõ, Áåðêî, Ìîâøà-Èöêî è ìíîãèå äðóãèå. Æåíùèí íå ïåðå÷èñëÿþ, ñ íèìè ñëîæíî, íî îíè åñòü. Ìîè ïîèñêè ïîêà íå ïðèâåëè ìåíÿ íè â Êèåâ, íè â Ïîëòàâó, íè â Áåëàðóñü, íî ÿ óâåðåí - ýòî âðåìåííî. Ïîêà ÿ âèæó, ÷òî Êàðëèíñêèå íà÷èíàþòñÿ èìåííî èç Ãîðíîñòàéïîëÿ (ðàíåå èç Ïîëüøè, íî ïîêà ÿ íå äîêàçàë ýòî) îò ÷åëîâåêà ïî èìåíè Ìîøêî Èöêîâè÷ Êàðëèíñêèé, ïðèìåðíî 1788 ãîäà ðîæäåíèÿ. ß ãîòîâ îáñóäèòü ýòî ñ êàæäûì, êîìó ýòî ìîæåò ïîêàçàòüñÿ èíòåðåñíûì. 4923920@gmail.com. Ñåðãåé Êàðëèíñêèé. +7 9213247540 (WhatsApp)
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Hi there! I see that the topic is very old, but suddenly someone will wander here through the years. So my introductions: The main habitat of "my Karlinsky" was in Gornostaypol' (Kiev region), Chernobyl', Leningrad and Altai Territory (evacuation during the blockade of Leningrad (Yankel, Mikhel his son)). The names that can be found in my tree: Aizik (Isaac), Mihel (Mikhail), Yankel (Yakov), Shlema, Shmul, Aron-Haim, Gershko, Berl, Boruh, Morduh, Berko, Movsha-Itsko and many others. My searches have not yet brought me either to Kiev, or to Poltava, or to Belarus, but I am sure it is temporary. So far, I see that Karlinsky begins precisely from Gornostaypol' (previously from Poland, but I have not proved it yet) from a man named Moshko Itsko Karlinsky, born in about 1788. I am ready to discuss this with anyone who may find it interesting. 4923920@gmail.com. Sergey Karlinsky. +972 546856532 (WhatsApp) | | |
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Âîò ÿ, ê ïðèìåðó, çàáð¸ë. 1. Ïð³çâèùå øëÿõåòñüêî¿ ðîäèíè: Êàðë³íñüê³2. Çàïèñ øëÿõåòñüêèõ ðîäèí â ðåâ³çüêèõ ñêàçêàõ òà øëÿõåòñüêèõ â³äîìîñòÿõ ï³ä ÷àñ ðåâ³ç³é: ïîäàíî ð³ê, êîëè ïðîâîäèëàñÿ ðåâ³ç³ÿ, äàí³ ïðî ì³ñöåâ³ñòü, ïî ÿê³é áóëî çàïèñàíî øëÿõåòñüêó ðîäèíó, òà ¿¿ àäì³í³ñòðàòèâíî-òåðèòîð³àëüíó íàëåæí³ñòü.: 1816, ñ. Êèðèëîâå, ×èãèðèíñüêèé ï. (øëÿõòà)3. Ïîâ³ò, ç ÿêîãî áóëè ïîäàí³ êëîïîòàííÿ â³ä øëÿõåòñüêî¿ ðîäèíè ïðî âèçíàííÿ ¿¿ äâîðÿíñüêî¿ ã³äíîñò³: Çâåíèãîðîäñüêèé ï. 4. ³äîìîñò³ ïðî ð³øåííÿ äâîðÿíñüêèõ äåïóòàòñüêèõ ç³áðàíü ùîäî âèçíàííÿ äâîðÿíñüêî¿ ã³äíîñò³ øëÿõåòñüêèõ ðîäèí (ëåã³òèìàö³¿): 18.01.1827, ÷. 1. 5. Äæåðåëà, íà ÿêèõ ãðóíòóþòüñÿ äàíí³ ðîäîãðàìè: ÖIJÀÊ Óêðà¿íè, ô. 481, îï. 1, ñïð. 15, àðê. 1305 – 1309.Èñòî÷íèê: Ëåã³òèìîâàíà ïðàâîáåðåæíà øëÿõòà (ê³íåöü XVIII – ñåðåäèíà ÕIÕ ñò.). / Óêëàä.: Ñ. Ëèñåíêî, ª. ×åðíåöüêèé. – Á³ëà Öåðêâà: Âèä. Î. Ïøîíê³âñüêèé, 2006. Òîì ²². Ñïèñîê ëåã³òèìîâàíî¿ øëÿõòè Êè¿âñüêî¿ ãóáåðí³¿. Ñ. 89.1. Ïð³çâèùå øëÿõåòñüêî¿ ðîäèíè: Êàðë³íñüê³2. Çàïèñ øëÿõåòñüêèõ ðîäèí â ðåâ³çüêèõ ñêàçêàõ òà øëÿõåòñüêèõ â³äîìîñòÿõ ï³ä ÷àñ ðåâ³ç³é: ïîäàíî ð³ê, êîëè ïðîâîäèëàñÿ ðåâ³ç³ÿ, äàí³ ïðî ì³ñöåâ³ñòü, ïî ÿê³é áóëî çàïèñàíî øëÿõåòñüêó ðîäèíó, òà ¿¿ àäì³í³ñòðàòèâíî-òåðèòîð³àëüíó íàëåæí³ñòü: 1832, Íîâãîðîä-Âîëèíñüêèé ï. (äâîðÿíè 2-ãî ðîçðÿäó, ¹¹ 1028 - 1030). 3. Ïîâ³ò, ç ÿêîãî áóëè ïîäàí³ êëîïîòàííÿ â³ä øëÿõåòñüêî¿ ðîäèíè ïðî âèçíàííÿ ¿¿ äâîðÿíñüêî¿ ã³äíîñò³: – 4. ³äîìîñò³ ïðî ð³øåííÿ äâîðÿíñüêèõ äåïóòàòñüêèõ ç³áðàíü ùîäî âèçíàííÿ äâîðÿíñüêî¿ ã³äíîñò³ øëÿõåòñüêèõ ðîäèí (ëåã³òèìàö³¿): à) ... 1802 ¹ 106, ÷. 1; b) ... 1832 ¹ 4682, ÷. 1. 5. Äæåðåëà, íà ÿêèõ ãðóíòóþòüñÿ äàíí³ ðîäîãðàìè: ÖIJÀÊ Óêðà¿íè, ô. 481, îï. 1, ñïð. 275, àðê. 22 çâ. – 23.1. Ïð³çâèùå øëÿõåòñüêî¿ ðîäèíè: Êàðë³íñüê³2. Çàïèñ øëÿõåòñüêèõ ðîäèí â ðåâ³çüêèõ ñêàçêàõ òà øëÿõåòñüêèõ â³äîìîñòÿõ ï³ä ÷àñ ðåâ³ç³é: ïîäàíî ð³ê, êîëè ïðîâîäèëàñÿ ðåâ³ç³ÿ, äàí³ ïðî ì³ñöåâ³ñòü, ïî ÿê³é áóëî çàïèñàíî øëÿõåòñüêó ðîäèíó, òà ¿¿ àäì³í³ñòðàòèâíî-òåðèòîð³àëüíó íàëåæí³ñòü: Ñåðåä äâîðÿí 1-ãî òà 2-ãî ðîçðÿä³â ïî Âîëèíñüê³é ãóáåðí³¿ íå çíà÷àòüñÿ. 3. Ïîâ³ò, ç ÿêîãî áóëè ïîäàí³ êëîïîòàííÿ â³ä øëÿõåòñüêî¿ ðîäèíè ïðî âèçíàííÿ ¿¿ äâîðÿíñüêî¿ ã³äíîñò³: – 4. ³äîìîñò³ ïðî ð³øåííÿ äâîðÿíñüêèõ äåïóòàòñüêèõ ç³áðàíü ùîäî âèçíàííÿ äâîðÿíñüêî¿ ã³äíîñò³ øëÿõåòñüêèõ ðîäèí (ëåã³òèìàö³¿): à) ... 1803 ¹ 684, ÷. 1; b) ... 1832 ¹ 3726, ÷. 1. 5. Äæåðåëà, íà ÿêèõ ãðóíòóþòüñÿ äàíí³ ðîäîãðàìè: ÖIJÀÊ Óêðà¿íè, ô. 481, îï. 1, ñïð. 275, àðê. 268 çâ. – 269.1. Ïð³çâèùå øëÿõåòñüêî¿ ðîäèíè: Êàðë³íñüê³2. Çàïèñ øëÿõåòñüêèõ ðîäèí â ðåâ³çüêèõ ñêàçêàõ òà øëÿõåòñüêèõ â³äîìîñòÿõ ï³ä ÷àñ ðåâ³ç³é: ïîäàíî ð³ê, êîëè ïðîâîäèëàñÿ ðåâ³ç³ÿ, äàí³ ïðî ì³ñöåâ³ñòü, ïî ÿê³é áóëî çàïèñàíî øëÿõåòñüêó ðîäèíó, òà ¿¿ àäì³í³ñòðàòèâíî-òåðèòîð³àëüíó íàëåæí³ñòü: Ñåðåä äâîðÿí 1-ãî òà 2-ãî ðîçðÿä³â ïî Âîëèíñüê³é ãóáåðí³¿ íå çíà÷àòüñÿ. 3. Ïîâ³ò, ç ÿêîãî áóëè ïîäàí³ êëîïîòàííÿ â³ä øëÿõåòñüêî¿ ðîäèíè ïðî âèçíàííÿ ¿¿ äâîðÿíñüêî¿ ã³äíîñò³: – 4. ³äîìîñò³ ïðî ð³øåííÿ äâîðÿíñüêèõ äåïóòàòñüêèõ ç³áðàíü ùîäî âèçíàííÿ äâîðÿíñüêî¿ ã³äíîñò³ øëÿõåòñüêèõ ðîäèí (ëåã³òèìàö³¿): à) ... 1802 ¹ 4195, ÷. 1; b) íàä³ñëàíî äî ÖÐÊ 12.11.1840. 5. Äæåðåëà, íà ÿêèõ ãðóíòóþòüñÿ äàíí³ ðîäîãðàìè: ÖIJÀÊ Óêðà¿íè, ô. 481, îï. 1, ñïð. 275, àðê. 229 çâ. – 230.Äæåðåëî: Ëåã³òèìîâàíà ïðàâîáåðåæíà øëÿõòà (ê³íåöü XVIII – ñåðåäèíà ÕIÕ ñò.). / Óêëàä.: Ñ. Ëèñåíêî, ª. ×åðíåöüêèé. – Á³ëà Öåðêâà: Âèä. Î. Ïøîíê³âñüêèé, 2006. Òîì ²V. Ñïèñîê ëåã³òèìîâàíî¿ øëÿõòè Âîëèíñüêî¿ ãóáåðí³¿. Ñ. 84. --- Çíàíèÿ - ñèëà | | |
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29 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2020 11:47 >> Îòâåò íà ñîîáùåíèå ïîëüçîâàòåëÿ Klim2018 îò 27 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2020 13:06 Çäðàâñòâóéòå! Áîëüøîå ñïàñèáî, ÷òî íàïèñàëè, òåïåðü ó ìåíÿ åñòü íîâûå íàïðàâëåíèÿ äëÿ ïîèñêîâ. Âîò òîëüêî íè÷åãî íå ïîíÿòíî, íå ðàññêàæèòå áîëåå ïîäðîáíî: 1. Êàêèì îáðàçîì Âû îñóùåñòâèëè ïîèñê ïî ýòèì êíèãàì; 2. Ïðàâèëüíî ëè ÿ ïîíèìàþ, ÷òî åñëè ÿ õî÷ó áîëüøå ñâåäåíèé, íàïðèìåð ïî ï.1 èç âàøåãî îòâåòà, òî ìíå íóæíî äîñòàòü âîò ýòî "Äæåðåëà, íà ÿêèõ ãðóíòóþòüñÿ äàíí³ ðîäîãðàìè: ÖIJÀÊ Óêðà¿íè, ô. 481, îï. 1, ñïð. 15, àðê. 1305 – 1309." îòñþäà ñëåäóþùèé âîïðîñ: 3. À ÷òî ýòî âîîáùå çà äîêóìåíòû, íå ñìîã ïðàâèëüíî çàãóãëèòü, ìîæåòå ïîäñêàçàòü? Èëè ãäå ïðî íèõ ïî÷èòàòü? 4. Âû êàê-òî ñâÿçàíû ñ ôàìèëèåé, èëè ïðîñòî ó Âàñ áîëüøîé îïûò? =) Ñïàñèáî! | | |
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29 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2020 23:07 samiq íàïèñàë: [q] 1. Êàêèì îáðàçîì Âû îñóùåñòâèëè ïîèñê ïî ýòèì êíèãàì;[/q]
Äîáðûé âå÷åð! Ôàìèëèè â êíèãàõ èäóò â àëôàâèòíîì ïîðÿäêå. Âîò è ñìîòðþ. samiq íàïèñàë: [q] 2. Ïðàâèëüíî ëè ÿ ïîíèìàþ, ÷òî åñëè ÿ õî÷ó áîëüøå ñâåäåíèé, íàïðèìåð ïî ï.1 èç âàøåãî îòâåòà, òî ìíå íóæíî äîñòàòü âîò ýòî "Äæåðåëà, íà ÿêèõ ãðóíòóþòüñÿ äàíí³ ðîäîãðàìè: ÖIJÀÊ Óêðà¿íè, ô. 481, îï. 1, ñïð. 15, àðê. 1305 – 1309."[/q]
Äà, Âû âñ¸ ïðàâèëüíî ïîíèìàåòå. samiq íàïèñàë: [q] îòñþäà ñëåäóþùèé âîïðîñ: 3. À ÷òî ýòî âîîáùå çà äîêóìåíòû, íå ñìîã ïðàâèëüíî çàãóãëèòü, ìîæåòå ïîäñêàçàòü? Èëè ãäå ïðî íèõ ïî÷èòàòü?[/q]
ÖIJÀÊ Óêðà¿íè - Öåíòðàëüíèé äåðæàâíèé ³ñòîðè÷íèé àðõ³â Óêðà¿íè, ì.Êè¿â. Ïîïðîáóéòå ó ñåáÿ íàáðàòü íà ðóññêîì: ÖÃÈÀÊ Óêðàèíû - Öåíòðàëüíûé ãîñóäàðñòâåííûé èñòîðè÷åñêèé àðõèâ Óêðàèíû, ã. Êèåâ. ÖÃÈÀÊ. Ôîíä 481 - Öåíòðàëüíàÿ êîìèññèÿ äëÿ ðåâèçèè äåéñòâèé äâîðÿíñêèõ äåïóòàòñêèõ ñîáðàíèé Êèåâñêîé, Ïîäîëüñêîé è Âîëûíñêîé ãóáåðíèé. samiq íàïèñàë: [q] 4. Âû êàê-òî ñâÿçàíû ñ ôàìèëèåé, èëè ïðîñòî ó Âàñ áîëüøîé îïûò? =)[/q]
Ñ Ôàìèëèåé íå ñâÿçàí, íî ïîñìîòðåòü èìåþùèéñÿ èñòî÷íèê è ïîìî÷ü ÷åëîâåêó äëÿ ìåíÿ íå ñëîæíî. Óäà÷è Âàì â ïîèñêàõ. --- Çíàíèÿ - ñèëà | | Ëàéê (1) |
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[q] Ùåðáàêîâà (Êàðëèíñêàÿ) Þëèÿ Ôåäîðîâíà 1909 ã/ð., äîìîõîçÿéêà, Ðåñïóáëèêà Àëòàé, ï. Ìàéìà.
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Çäðàâñòâóéòå! Ïîäñêàæèòå, à Ùåðáàêîâà ýòî ïî ìóæó ôàìèëèÿ èëè äåâè÷üÿ Þëèè Ô¸äîðîâíû? Çàðàíåå ñïàñèáî![/q]
Çäðàâñòâóéòå! Ñóäÿ ïî âñåìó, ïî ìóæó. | | |
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Äîáðûé äåíü! Ýòî ìîé ïðàäåä, îí ðîäèëñÿ 20 ìàðòà 1896 ãîäà â Ãîðíîñòàéïîëå. Îòåö - Àéçèê, ðîäíàÿ ñåñòðà - Ñóðà-Ðèâêà, æåíà Ãèñÿ. Íà ýòîì êîëåíå ó ìåíÿ èíôîðìàöèè äîâîëüíî ìíîãî, åñòü çíàêîìûå èìåíà? | | |
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