Æèëèíñêèå (Żylińskie)
| Asevage Íîâè÷îê
Paris
Ñîîáùåíèé: 7
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2015 ã.
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30 äåêàáðÿ 2015 15:51 According to our family legend, our Jewish ancestors were brought from Slovakian Zilina to Lithuania by crusaders by force. So our ancestors have adopted the surname Zhilin(later Zhilinsky and Zilionis) and set up their first village Zilinai(Zhilins) in Lithuania. This village Zilinai is mentioned in the descriptions of crusaders' ways of the 14th century. In 1495, our ancestors were expelled from Lithuania, but they did careers in Russia and some of them have returned to Lithuania and Poland. Some our young ancestor was married to some much older duchess. The family tree of Mordas-Zylinski starts from Jan born in 1560. Very likely, his grandfather was Moses Mordas-ewicz-Zylinski who has received the bridge through the river Bug in 1514. My greatgreatgrandfather Dmitry Zhilin is described in "The prisoner of Caucasus" by Lev Tolstoy. ---
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30 äåêàáðÿ 2015 19:14 31 äåêàáðÿ 2015 11:11 Asevage íàïèñàë: [q] [/q]
Îòíîñèòåëüíî âåðíî. Ìîðäàñ- ïðèäîìîê îò ëèòîâñêîãî èìåíè ñîáñòâåííîãî"Ìîðäàñ ". Æèëèíñêèé- îò íàçâàíèÿ ìåñòíîñòè Æèëèí, â ïîëüñêîé òðàäèöèè " èç Æèëèíà Æèëèíñêèé". Ìîðäàñ-åâè÷, ýòî êàê âàðèàíò ðóñêîãî ïðîèñõîæäåíèÿ. Ñêîðåå âñåãî, â 15 âåêå "ôàìèëèÿ" áûëà -Ìîðäàñ, íà÷àëî-ñåðåäèíà 16 âåêà - Ìîðäàñåâè÷, ñåðåäèíà 16 âåêà è äàëåå- Ìîðäàñ-Æèëèíñêèé. Âîéñ(ø)èí-Æèëèíñêèå- ìîæåò áûòü îòäåëüíîé âåòêîé ðîäà Ìîðäàñ-Æèëèíñêèõ. Ïîèùèòå íàñåë¸ííûé ïóíêò ñ òàêèì íàçâàíèåì,ëèáî îïÿòü òàêè ýòî èìÿ ñîáñòâåííîå.. | | |
| Øàðëü
Ñîîáùåíèé: 194
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã.
Ðåéòèíã: 64
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3 ÿíâàðÿ 2016 18:36 Çâó÷èò óáåäèòåëüíî. Õîòÿ äåòàëüíîå äåðåâî áûëî áû åùå ëó÷øå  ---
Ëè÷íûå äàííûå ìîè è ìîèõ ïðåäêîâ ÿ ðàçìåùàþ íà ñàéòå vgd.ru äîáðîâîëüíî, äëÿ ïîèñêà ðîäíè:: Áóòëåð (Butler, Buttlar, Boutler), Ãåììåëüìàí (Hemmelmann), Æèëèíñêèå (Wojszyn Mordas Żylińscy) | | |
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8 ÿíâàðÿ 2016 16:58 Øàðëü
À ýòî âû óæå ñàìè äîëæíû ïîñòàðàòüñÿ)) | | |
| alytisz Íîâè÷îê
Alytus-Àëèòóñ-Olita
Ñîîáùåíèé: 17
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2015 ã.
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9 ÿíâàðÿ 2016 1:11 Õî÷þ âàì óäîñòîâåðèòü, íåò ëèòîâñêîãî èìåíè "Ìîðäàñ ". À ëþäè ñ ôàìèëèåé "Mardosa" çíàþ ëè÷íî. Âîèøèí - åñòü òàêîå èìÿ.  Ëèòâå, Âàðåíñêîì ð-íå íàõîäèòñÿ ïîñåëîê "Nedzingė". Òàì åñòü ñòàðîå, äåðåâÿííîå èìåíèå - äîì è êîñòèîë, ñòðîèòåëüñòâî êîòîðîãî 1841-1844 ôóäèðîâàë ãåíåðàë Âèíöåíòú Ìîðäàñ-Æèëèíñêèé, åãî áðàò Äîìèíèê æèë â èìåíèè.  êðèïòàõ êîñòèîëà ïîõîðîíåíû ìíîãèå Ìîðäàñ-Æèëèíñêèå,
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9 ÿíâàðÿ 2016 5:35 9 ÿíâàðÿ 2016 5:46 alytisz
Ñîãëàñåí,Áàëòñêîå. Ýòî ìîæåò áûòü è Éîòâà. Ìîðäàñ Ìèøêîâè÷- Ìèøêî Íàöêîâè÷ è ò.ä | | |
| Asevage Íîâè÷îê
Paris
Ñîîáùåíèé: 7
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2015 ã.
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9 ÿíâàðÿ 2016 12:49 Some our Jewish female ancestor Zylinska was married to some Mordas-ewicz. So their descendants were using the double surname Mordasewicz-Zylinski or Mordas-Zylinski, but finally they started using only Zylinski.
According to our family legend, Mordas was of Mordovian origin. The same is indicated in www.ufolog.ru.
The babtized Jew Moses Mordas-ewicz - Zylinski was rewarded with the Bug river bridge in 1514 by the king. Their family tree is published on www.geni.com and www.sejm-wielki.pl. ---
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Geo Z LT Ñîîáùåíèé: 19768 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2008 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 13338 | Íàâåðõ ##
9 ÿíâàðÿ 2016 14:16  Ëèòâå åñòü ôàìèëèè Ìàðäîñà è Ìàðäîñàñ, â òåëåôîííîé êíèãå áîëåå ïîëñòà. ×àùå âñòðå÷àþòñÿ â þæíîé ÷àñòè ñòðàíû. | | |
| Øàðëü
Ñîîáùåíèé: 194
Íà ñàéòå ñ 2009 ã.
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9 ÿíâàðÿ 2016 17:29 Tutejszy - ñòàðàþñü, óâàæàåìûé, ñòàðàþñü... ---
Ëè÷íûå äàííûå ìîè è ìîèõ ïðåäêîâ ÿ ðàçìåùàþ íà ñàéòå vgd.ru äîáðîâîëüíî, äëÿ ïîèñêà ðîäíè:: Áóòëåð (Butler, Buttlar, Boutler), Ãåììåëüìàí (Hemmelmann), Æèëèíñêèå (Wojszyn Mordas Żylińscy) | | |
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9 ÿíâàðÿ 2016 21:19 Geo Z
Òàê âåäü è Ìàðäîñàñ ÷òî-òî îçíà÷àåò. | | |
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