×Å×ÅÍÑÊÀß ÐÅÑÏÓÁËÈÊÀ
| verrokio Äîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 318 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2011 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 206 | Ââåðõ #26 íîÿáðÿ 2022 15:55 antonshanin ß ñ Âàìè ñîãëàñíà, ÷òî ôîðóì äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû äåëèòñÿ òóò ñâîèìè íàõîäêàìè èëè èñêàòü òóò èíôîðìàöèþ ïî ñîîáùåíèÿì äðóãèõ ëþäåé (ëè÷íî ìíå ôîðóì â ýòîì óæå íåîäíîêðàòíî ïîìîãàë, ïîýòîìó ÿ ñòàðàþñü òàêæå äåëèòñÿ ñ ëþäüìè òåì, ÷òî íàõîæó). Íî âîò Âàø âîïðîñ è ïðàâäà íå èç ñëîæíîãî, äîñòàòî÷íî ïðîñòî ïîãóãëèòü è Âû ýòè äàííûå íàéäåòå, òåì áîëåå ó ëþäåé ìîãóò áûòü ïðîñòî óñòàðåâøèå äàííûå (åñëè îíè ðàíåå òóäà îáðàùàëèñü). | | Ëàéê (1) |
| antonshanin Íîâè÷îê
Ñîîáùåíèé: 5 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2022 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 5 | Ââåðõ #26 íîÿáðÿ 2022 23:09 26 íîÿáðÿ 2022 23:15 verrokio íàïèñàë: [q] antonshanin ß ñ Âàìè ñîãëàñíà, ÷òî ôîðóì äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû äåëèòñÿ òóò ñâîèìè íàõîäêàìè èëè èñêàòü òóò èíôîðìàöèþ ïî ñîîáùåíèÿì äðóãèõ ëþäåé (ëè÷íî ìíå ôîðóì â ýòîì óæå íåîäíîêðàòíî ïîìîãàë, ïîýòîìó ÿ ñòàðàþñü òàêæå äåëèòñÿ ñ ëþäüìè òåì, ÷òî íàõîæó). Íî âîò Âàø âîïðîñ è ïðàâäà íå èç ñëîæíîãî, äîñòàòî÷íî ïðîñòî ïîãóãëèòü è Âû ýòè äàííûå íàéäåòå, òåì áîëåå ó ëþäåé ìîãóò áûòü ïðîñòî óñòàðåâøèå äàííûå (åñëè îíè ðàíåå òóäà îáðàùàëèñü).
[/q]
×òî ïîãóãëèòü-òî? ß âàì íàïîìíþ, ÷òî ÿ âîîáùå íèêîãäà íå èñêàë íè÷åãî ïîäîáíîãî, äà è â öåëîì â ÇÀÃÑ íèêîãäà íå õîäèë è â áëèæàéøåå âðåìÿ íå ñîáèðàëñÿ. È ÿ äàæå íå çíàë, ÷òî òàêèå ñïðàâêè áûâàþò. ß òåì íå ìåíåå óçíàë, ÷òî îíè äåëàþòñÿ â ÇÀÃÑ, ïðèøåë â ìåñòíîå îòäåëåíèå â ñâîåì ãîðîäå. Ìíå òàì ñêàçàëè, ÷òî ìîë âîò îäíó ñïðàâêó (íà áðàê äåäà è áàáóøêè) ìíå ìîãóò äàòü, à îñòàëüíûõ íåò è ãäå èñêàòü îíè õç. Ïîñîâåòîâàëè îáðàùàòüñÿ â êàêèå-òî àðõèâû ÷å÷åíñêèå. Íî äî ýòîãî ìíå áûëî îçâó÷åíî äðóãèì ÷åëîâåêîì, ÷òî áàçà ÇÀÃÑ ïî âñåé ñòðàíå äîëæíà áûòü îäíà, ïîýòîìó è ðÿçàíñêèé ÇÀÃÑ äîëæåí âûäàâàòü ñïðàâêè. È ÿ íå ïîíÿë, ïî êàêîé ïðè÷èíå ìíå âûäàëè îäíó ñïðàâêó (êñòàòè æåíèëèñü îíè òîæå â ×å÷íå), à äðóãóþ íå âûäàëè. Ïîñëå ýòîãî ÿ ïðèøåë äîìîé, çàãóãëèë òåëåôîí êàêèõ-òî àðõèâîâ ÷å÷åíñêèõ (ÿ åé áîãó íå çíàþ êàê ìîæíî áûëî ïðîâåðèòü, àêòóàëüíûé ýòî òåëåôîí èëè íåò), ïðîçâîíèë, òàì íå âçÿëè òðóáêó. È óæå ïîñëå âñåãî ýòîãî ÿ âûøåë íà ýòîò ôîðóì, ãäå ðåøèë ïðîâåðèòü, òóäà ëè ÿ âîîáùå çâîíèë è ïðàâèëüíûé ëè ó ìåíÿ âåêòîð ïîèñêà. Íî êàê îêàçàëîñü òóò íè÷åãî òàêîãî ñïðàøèâàòü íåëüçÿ, èáî ýòî îñêîðáëÿåò ÷üè-òî ìîäåðàòîðñêèå (è íå òîëüêî) ÷óâñòâà. Ðåáÿòà, áóäüòå ïðîùå. Âû âîçìîæíî êàêèì-òî îáðàçîì ñòàëêèâàëèñü ñ ýòèìè ñòðóêòóðàìè ðàíåå, äåëàëè êàêèå-òî ñïðàâêè, îáðàùàëèñü â àðõèâû. ß æå íè÷åì òàêèì íå çàíèìàëñÿ, è ÿ èìåþ ïðàâî íå çíàòü ãäå è ÷òî èñêàòü. È êàê âû âèäèòå âûøå, ÿ ïðîâåë êàêóþ-òî èññëåäîâàòåëüñêóþ ðàáîòó ïåðåä òåì, êàê ñþäà íàïèñàòü. Íî äàæå åñëè áû ÿ è íå ïðîâîäèë åå, ÿ íå âèæó íè÷åãî ñòðàøíîãî ÷òîáû îáðàòèòüñÿ ñþäà è ñïðîñèòü ó çíàþùèõ ëþäåé. Íó à åñëè ñîâñåì íåðâèøêè øàëÿò è ïîìîãàòü íåçíàêîìûì ëþäÿì íå õî÷åòñÿ, òî ëó÷øå âîîáùå ïðîìîë÷àòü, ÷åì ïëåâàòüñÿ ÿäîì.  êîíöå êîíöîâ ýòî â ïåðâóþ î÷åðåäü õàðàêòåðèçóåò èìåííî âàñ, à íå ìåíÿ. Àìèíü | | Ëàéê (4) |
| ricinflorida Íîâè÷îê
Englewood, FL Ñîîáùåíèé: 12 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2022 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 6 | Ââåðõ #26 íîÿáðÿ 2022 23:18 Are there burial records for cemeteries in Grozny? Look for death date of Leonid Alekseevich Belfort (or Rymkevich) who may have died around 1950. | | Ëàéê (1) |
BoomBoomÄîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà  ãîðîä Ãðîçíûé Ñîîáùåíèé: 299 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2010 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 223 | Ââåðõ #26 íîÿáðÿ 2022 23:23 ricinflorida íàïèñàë: [q] Are there burial records for cemeteries in Grozny? Look for death date of Leonid Alekseevich Belfort (or Rymkevich) who may have died around 1950.[/q]
Ïîïðîáóéòå çäåñü ïîèñêàòü http://www.care95.ru/ --- Èùó ñâåäåíèÿ: Ëåäîâñêèå, Àôîíèíû (ñåëî Êîíñòàíòèíîâñêîå, Ñòàâðîïîëüñêèé êðàé); Ñèëàåâû (Êóñòàíàéñêàÿ îáë. Êàçàõñòàí); Áîðîâèêîâû (Âîðîíåæñêàÿ ãóá., Áóòóðëèíîâñêàÿ âîë.); Êîðæåâñêèå, Îãèåíêî (ñåëî Ñïàññêîå, Ñòàâðîïîëüñêèé êðàé; Ïåðåÿñëàâñêèé óåçä, Ïîëòàâñêàÿ ãóá.) | | Ëàéê (2) |
| ricinflorida Íîâè÷îê
Englewood, FL Ñîîáùåíèé: 12 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2022 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 6 | Ââåðõ #26 íîÿáðÿ 2022 23:28 Does the address Grozny, Sunzhenskaya street number 83 still exist? I"m researching Leonid Alekseevich Belfort who might have lived there in 1948-1950. He was about 75 at the time. I'm writing his life history and would like to know if a photo of the house is possible or if any family members or descendants are still living. | | Ëàéê (1) |
| apuzanoff Äîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà
Ñòàâðîïîëüñêèé êðàé Ñîîáùåíèé: 2552 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2017 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1654 | Ââåðõ #28 íîÿáðÿ 2022 11:35 28 íîÿáðÿ 2022 11:36 ricinflorida íàïèñàë: [q] Does the address Grozny, Sunzhenskaya street number 83 still exist? I"m researching Leonid Alekseevich Belfort who might have lived there in 1948-1950. He was about 75 at the time. I'm writing his life history and would like to know if a photo of the house is possible or if any family members or descendants are still living.
[/q]
Looking at the map, at the moment there is no house with this address. Perhaps in 1948-50 some other street had this name or this part of city was destroyed in 1990s.. Unfortunelly there is almost no citizens of the Grozny city on the forum who could help you, but I'm trying to ask more details about this address from local residents.
Âîçìîæíî çäåñü åñòü óðîæåíöû, æèòåëè èëè îáëàäàòåëè äåòàëèçèðîâàííîé ñîâåòñêîé êàðòû ã. Ãðîçíûé, êòî ìîæåò ïîäñêàçàòü ricinflorida ñóùåñòâîâàë ëè äîì ñ àäðåñîì ã. Ãðîçíûé, óë Ñóíæåíñêàÿ, ä. 83 â 1948-1950õ ? Â íàñòîÿùèé ìîìåíò òàêîãî àäðåñà íå ñóùåñòâóåò... | | Ëàéê (2) |
| alex_kolm Ó÷àñòíèê
Ñîîáùåíèé: 60 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2021 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 88 | Ââåðõ #28 íîÿáðÿ 2022 13:42 apuzanoff íàïèñàë: [q] Â íàñòîÿùèé ìîìåíò òàêîãî àäðåñà íå ñóùåñòâóåò...
[/q]
Ñóäÿ ïî ñàéòó Ïî÷òû Ðîññèè, ïî óëèöå Ñóíæåíñêîé ñåé÷àñ åñòü äîìà ñ íîìåðàìè 1-39 (íå ïîäðÿä), à çàòåì òîëüêî 168 è òàê äàëåå. Òàê ÷òî â òàêîãî àäðåñà, äåéñòâèòåëüíî, íå ñóùåñòâóåò. Íà pastvu òîæå íåò ôîòî ïî ýòîé óëèöå. Êàæåòñÿ, òàì áûë ÷àñòíûé ñåêòîð, òàê ÷òî íàëè÷èå ôîòî åùå áîëåå ñîìíèòåëüíî. ricinflorida íàïèñàë: [q] Leonid Alekseevich Belfort (or Rymkevich) who may have died around 1950
[/q]
Do you know if he was a member of CPSU? If you know the number of his membership card (CPSU) or date and place of joining the CPSU or exact date and place of death, you can make a request to Russian Archive of Social and Political History (ÐÃÀÑÏÈ) -- rgaspi@inbox.ru. | | Ëàéê (1) |
xax_nvÄîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà  ã. Íèæíåâàðòîâñê, ÕÌÀÎ - Þãðà Ñîîáùåíèé: 3617 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2010 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 7055 | Ââåðõ #28 íîÿáðÿ 2022 18:36 28 íîÿáðÿ 2022 18:37 apuzanoff íàïèñàë: [q] ñóùåñòâîâàë ëè äîì ñ àäðåñîì ã. Ãðîçíûé, óë Ñóíæåíñêàÿ, ä. 83 â 1948-1950õ ?[/q]
Ñêîðåé âñåãî äà. Ðîäèòåëè ìîåãî îòöà æèëè ïî àäðåñó ã. Ãðîçíûé, óë Ñóíæåíñêàÿ, ä. 70. Most likely yes. My father's parents lived at Grozny, Sunzhenskaya street, 70 | | Ëàéê (2) |
| apuzanoff Äîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà
Ñòàâðîïîëüñêèé êðàé Ñîîáùåíèé: 2552 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2017 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 1654 | Ââåðõ #28 íîÿáðÿ 2022 22:03 ricinfloridaxax_nv íàïèñàë: [q] Ñêîðåé âñåãî äà. Ðîäèòåëè ìîåãî îòöà æèëè ïî àäðåñó ã. Ãðîçíûé, óë Ñóíæåíñêàÿ, ä. 70.
Most likely yes. My father's parents lived at Grozny, Sunzhenskaya street, 70
[/q]
À Âû íå çíàåòå, òà óëèöà Ñóíæåíñêàÿ è ñîâðåìåííàÿ óëèöà Ñóíæåíñêàÿ - ýòî îäíà è òà æå óëèöà? Èëè â ñåðåäèíå XX äðóãàÿ óëèöà íîñèëà ýòî íàçâàíèå? Do you know historical Sunzhenskaya street and modern Sunzhenskaya street are the same one? Or did another street have this name in the middle of the 20th century ? | | Ëàéê (1) |
xax_nvÄîëãîæèòåëü ôîðóìà  ã. Íèæíåâàðòîâñê, ÕÌÀÎ - Þãðà Ñîîáùåíèé: 3617 Íà ñàéòå ñ 2010 ã. Ðåéòèíã: 7055 | Ââåðõ #29 íîÿáðÿ 2022 6:57 apuzanoff íàïèñàë: [q] Èëè â ñåðåäèíå XX äðóãàÿ óëèöà íîñèëà ýòî íàçâàíèå?[/q]
Ïîñìîòðåë â 2ÃÈÑ, äåéñòâèòåëüíî, ñîâðåìåííàÿ óë. Ñóíæåíñêàÿ íàõîäèòñÿ â äðóãîì ìåñòå. À ñòàðàÿ óë. Ñóíæåíñêàÿ ýòî óë. Êóíòà-Õàäæè Êèøèåâà. È 83 íîìåðà íå íàáëþäàåòñÿ, èäåò 81, çàòåì 89, 91.
  | | Ëàéê (2) |
|