Vyborg genealogy research

Ìîÿ ñåìüÿ ïûòàëàñü áîëüøå 20 ëåò óçíàòü ïðîèñõîæäåíèå íàøåé ïðÿìîé îòå÷åñêîé ëèíèè, ìîé ggg-äåäóøêà Àëåêñàíäð Êîíñòàíòåí Âàëüáåðã áûë ðîäèâøèìñÿ 1856 â ãîðîäå Âûáîðãå (òîãäà ÷àñòü Ôèíëÿíäèè) íåèçâåñòíîìó îòöó è ìàòåðè ïî èìåíè Ìàðãàðåòà Âàëüáåðã (õîòÿ îíà íå ïîÿâëÿåòñÿ íè â êàêèõ äðóãèõ îò÷åòàõ ÷åì â ðåãèñòðå ðîæäåíèÿ Àëåêñàíäðà, êîòîðûé ìîã áû îçíà÷àòü, ÷òî ýòî íå áûëî åå íàñòîÿùèì èìåíåì).
Áûëî ìíîãî òàéí, îêðóæàþùèõ ýòó ëèíèþ, âêëþ÷àÿ ñòðàííûå ñòîëêíîâåíèÿ ñ Ñîâåòñêèìè âëàñòÿìè è ÊÃÁ, êîòîðîå ïðèâîäèò ìåíÿ ê çàêëþ÷åíèþ, ÷òî ëèíèÿ, âîçìîæíî, èìåëà Áëàãîðîäíóþ ðîññèéñêóþ ðîäîñëîâíóþ.
Ìíå ñäåëàëè òåñò Y-ÄÍÊ, è ÿ ïðèíàäëåæó ðåäêîìó haplogroup N1b, êîòîðûé ïðèñóòñòâóåò â Ðîññèè è Ôèíëÿíäèè, ìîé ñàìûé áëèçêèé ãåíåòè÷åñêèé ìàò÷ - ðîññèéñêèé ÷åëîâåê èç Êðàñíîäàðñêîé îáëàñòè.

Ó íàñ áûëî ôèíñêîå èññëåäîâàíèå ñïåöèàëèñòîâ ïî ãåíåàëîãèè ýòà ëèíèÿ, íî áåç ëþáîãî óñïåõà. Îíè ïðåäëîæèëè, ÷òîáû ìû ñâÿçàëèñü ñ ðîññèéñêèìè ñïåöèàëèñòàìè ïî ãåíåàëîãèè, êîòîðûå èìåþò äîñòóï ê âûáîðãñêèì àðõèâàì è çàÿâëÿþò àðõèâû. Ó êîãî-ëèáî åñòü êàêèå-ëèáî ïîäñêàçêè íà òîì, ÷òî ñäåëàòü, ÷òîáû âîéòè â êîíòàêò ñ ïðîôåññèîíàëüíûì ðîññèéñêèì genelogists, êòî ìîæåò ïðîâåñòè èññëåäîâàíèå â îáëàñòè ýòîé îáëàñòè è àðõèâîâ äîñòóïà?

Ñïàñèáî.

Thank you kbg_dnepr for trying to help.

I have some more details about my ggg-grandfather. As Aleksander's mother Margaretha presumably left Vyborg or even the land after his birth, he ended up on a orphanage were the manager for unknown reasons changed his surname (Wahlberg) to a Finnish one (Pienonen). It has also been suggested that "Pienonen" might be a translation from Russian to Finnish.
Recently I got another Russian genetic match via 23andMe who also has ancestry from Vyborg.

Åùå ïðî 3-ïðàäåäà: Êîãäà ìàòü Àëåêñàíäðà Ìàðãàðèòà ïîñëå åãî ðîæäåíèÿ ïîêèíóëà Âûáîðã (ñòðàíó?), åãî îòäàëè â ïðèþò, ãäå ïî íåèçâåñòíîé ïðè÷èíå ñìåíèëè åãî èìÿ Âàëüáåðã (Wahlberg) íà ôèíñêîå Ïèåíîíåí (Pienonen). Åñòü ïðåäïîëîæåíèå, ÷òî ýòî ïåðåâîä ñ ðóññêîãî.
Íåäàâíî ó ìåíÿ íà 23èß îáúÿâèëñÿ åùå îäèí ðóññêèé ïðèáëèæåíåö èç Âûáîðãà.

Hello!

No, Wahlberg was supposedly the surname of Aleksander Constantin's mother (though as stated earlier I highly doubt this was her real name as this "Margaretha Wahlberg" exists in no other documents) and thus he was born with the name aswell. It has been suggested that "Pienonen" is a translation from his unknown father's surname, though ofcourse I don't know if there's any truth in it.

Hi!


sgc2009 íàïèñàë:

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"Margaretha Wahlberg" exists in no other documents

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What documents have you seen? What name exists in them? Or no name at all?


sgc2009 íàïèñàë:

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It has been suggested that "Pienonen" is a translation from his unknown father's surname, though ofcourse I don't know if there's any truth in it.

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"Pienonen" means "small" in Finnish. It looks more like a characteristic of the boy himself.

Well, I think, it"s not so easy to do here something, if the name of M. Wahlberg is false. But why then try to erase it? I think, it"s the only trace, so I would try to seek some Wahlbergs in St. Petersburg.
The idea of the finnish name being a translation from the Russian is not bad, but what would be the prototype? Malyshev? Malyshkin? And what to do with them?
I think, the only real possibility is the DNA test results... Some day maybe some close cousin appears...