| veijo Новичок
Сообщений: 2 На сайте с 2026 г. Рейтинг: 0 | Вверх #13 сентября 0:17 11 октября 20:16 Hi, please, I need help!
I have been trying to search for the father of my great-grandmother to know if he was Russian or some other nationality as St Petersburg was very cosmopolitan those times.
I am not able to get hold of Russian records (Answer from Russian State Historical Archives: Добрый день! К сожалению, в настоящее время РГИА не имеет технической возможности исполнять удаленные запросы граждан других государств.)
I wonder if anyone could help me with records or point me to a new direction? Last name must have been written differently to Russian records, I suppose.
Her name was Leonide (Leonilla) Sågström, born November 8th, 1868 in St Petersburg. She had sister Valentina Sågström, born February 9th, 1872 in St Petersburg. Valentina got married to Feodor Ivanoff and stayed in Russia, so her records might be found on marriage records? Leonide eventually moved to Wiaborg and married there. WIlhelmina, the mother, stayed in St Petersburg until 1915 and moved to Wiaborg then.
Mother Wilhelmina Sågström was born in Porvoo, Finland June 29th, 1843 and moved to St Petersburg when she was only 15 years old. I suppose she worked as a maid there. Wilhemina married carpenter Theodore Graumann (born 1852 in St Petersburg) July 3th, 1881 in St Petersburg. They were announced in the Swedish St Catharina Church as Wilhelmina is Swedish speaking.
Theodore most likely is not the father as daughters are already teeenagers when they marry. Wilhelmina also kept her own surname so maybe children were born outside of marriage? But could be mentioned in Russian child records, not in Swedish? (not sure how and where children were recorded those times in Russia when born outside of marriage? In Scandinavia churches kept records)
Father´s name, nationality and maybe occupation could be mentioned in birth/child records of Leonide or Valentina. Or maybe mentioned somewhere in Wilhelmina´s records during her life; occupation, address, taxes, moving etc? Where could they be found?
There is a family story that he was Russian army officer.
Best wishes, Seija |
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ЭваДолгожитель форума  Сообщений: 1384 На сайте с 2012 г. Рейтинг: 1703 | Dear veijo
Lutheran church records for the years 1868–1885 are available on FamilySearch.org.
The St. Petersburg Historical Archive does not hold vital records for those years; they only have records from 1892 onwards. |
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| veijo Новичок
Сообщений: 2 На сайте с 2026 г. Рейтинг: 0 | Вверх #15 сентября 14:59 11 октября 10:39 Эва написал: [q] Dear veijo
Lutheran church records for the years 1868–1885 are available on FamilySearch.org.
The St. Petersburg Historical Archive does not hold vital records for those years; they only have records from 1892 onwards.[/q]
Ok. Yes, I have looked through Family Search and FInnish + Swedish church records. How about another daughter Valentina Sågström; could her records be found as Valentina got married to Feodor Ivanoff of Russian nationality. And stayed in Russia. Maybe she could be found somewhere from 1892 onwards? Also Wilhelmina, the mother stayed in Saint Petersburg until 1915. Are there no records anywhere of those times? Of people living there? |
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