Looking For A Marriage Record

FuranNietchaieff написал:

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Unfortunate, I was really hoping to have a little more information on his place of death.
According to his wife Maria, he died in 1918. In 1895, he was in Kaunas, Lithuania (birth town of his child). But between 1880-1895 and 1895-1918 I have nothing about his family. His son Mikhail and Maria moved to Radzymin during 1920 but I think he was already no longer in this world. However his son was a soldier during the first world war under the commandment of colonel Nikolaï Lokhvitsky, he left Moscow in 1916. Moscow might be a good guess.

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No, Lochwicki entered the WWI in April 1915 when he became a brigade commander at the 25th infantry division, which in August-September of 1915 took part in the Vilno operation.
But as soon as May 1915, he entered the 24th infantry division as a brigade commander.

The division in 1915 took part in the operations in Poland and Western Belarus.

Since May 1916 he took part in the operations in France (if you remember, Mikhail Grigoryevich Nechaev mentioned France).
Since 1917 he was the commander of the 1st Special infantry division of the Russian troops in France.
It also says that Lochwicki was the commander of the Russian base at Laval until July 1918.

Only in 1919 Lochwicki returned to Russia (during the Civil war), he traveled via the North to Siberia to join Kolchak.
So, possibly Mikhail Grigorievich could return to Poland (which was formerly part of the Russian Empire, actually) in July-August 1918.

So, his father could die in either Vilno, or Kaunas, or Radzimin in Poland.
I don't think they ever lived in Moscow since he had settled in Lithuania.

Here are the sources on Lochwicki:
ria1914.info

An article on the 24th infantry division

The wiki page on the division

>> Ответ на сообщение пользователя OlgaKob от 18 мая 2024 13:41

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Since May 1916 he took part in the operations in France (if you remember, Mikhail Grigoryevich Nechaev mentioned France).

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Yes, this is exactly what I mean by "However his son was a soldier during the first world war under the commandment of colonel Nikolaï Lokhvitsky, he left Moscow in 1916". And the journey to reach France started from Moscow by train to Dalian then by boat to Marseille.

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So, possibly Mikhail Grigorievich could return to Poland (which was formerly part of the Russian Empire, actually) in July-August 1918.

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How to make sure it was Poland ? He was also a theater artist in Kiev, Ukraine

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So, his father could die in either Vilno, or Kaunas, or Radzimin in Poland.
I don't think they ever lived in Moscow since he had settled in Lithuania.

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For 1918, I already made a request and they found nothing. Obviously in the case where the year given by his wife is correct

FuranNietchaieff написал:

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How to make sure it was Poland ? He was also a theater artist in Kiev, Ukraine

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So, your family traveled a lot))
As you can see, in order to find the death record for Grigory Mikhailovich you'll have to research all of the places for 1918.
You can possibly also visit Vilnius and Kaunass yourself to research the local cemetreries, there're still in the Schengen zone, from what I remember.
You can visit Poland too for the same purposes.
Cemetery research can help.
As for Moscow, yandex archives are available too.

>> Ответ на сообщение пользователя OlgaKob от 18 мая 2024 17:23

Yes I have already searched Familysearch.
Well, let's put aside his death certificate, there are too many variables at the moment.
I came back to the marriage certificate between Grigory and Maria. I remembered he was in Vilius's confessional statements for the Nikolaevskaya Church so I looked there but haven't found anything yet.

FuranNietchaieff написал:

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I speak with the person who provided me with Grigory's file and here is his opinion regarding the Nechaev Sinyavsky marriage

"Посмотрел послужной список.
Вы совершенно правы, брак надо искать в Вильне или в Чаусах.
Очень может быть, что брак был заключен в Виленской Благовещенской военно-местной церкви.
В ЦГИА вижу метрические книги этой церкви с начала 1890-х годов. Более ранние, скорее всего находятся в Центре хранения страхового фонда в Ялуторовске.
Туда надо делать запрос через РГВИА.
Если не найдете в архиве Вильнюса нужную метрику, то пишите, поработаем еще, сделаю запрос для Вас в Ялуторовск."

The automatic translator is a bit random but I think it says that I could apply to the RGVIA to obtain the marriage certificate?

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"I've looked through the service list.
You're totally right, the marriage should be looked for in Vilno or Chaussy.
It's quite possible that the marriage was concluded at the Vilno Annunciation local military church.
There're metrical books of that church at RGIA (Russian state historical archives) since the 1890s. The earlier ones are, very likely, at the Insurance fund storage center at Yalutorovsk. It must requested it via RGVIA.
If you fail to find the right metrical book at Vilnius, then contact me, we'll work on it and i'll request Yalutorovsk for you "